http://www.lucid-dreaming-kit.com/lucid-dr...eaming/?int=GGL
Now I'm not asking for myself, I'm asking this as a view to how this community perceives things :)
Could this be da bomb? Or probably another money-grabber?
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http://www.lucid-dreaming-kit.com/lucid-dr...eaming/?int=GGL
Now I'm not asking for myself, I'm asking this as a view to how this community perceives things :)
Could this be da bomb? Or probably another money-grabber?
Its just a product some company wants to make money off of. I really don't think there is any quick fixes when it comes to Losing. You just have to work long and hard at it. these kits are as lyrics as if they had them so you could play piano like Mozart in a day. these things take time...
Your wrong.Quote:
Originally posted by Barbizzle
Its just a product some company wants to make money off of. I really don't think there is any quick fixes when it comes to Losing. You just have to work long and hard at it.
I know many people who were born natural losers. And I know some who became losers overnight
:D
Yeah, this kit is a bad idea
it might be a scam, it might not be. there is no way to really tell unless you try it. i know i sound like a spokesman for it right now but it has a money back guarantee so theres not really a risk, so why not get it? :)
I read the entire thing. Seems like some kind of blitzkrieg approach to lucid dreaming. He has gathered together tools and techniques already well know to members of this forum and are offering them as a bundle. I do not know what he is using as the payload in his subliminals, but subliminals and brainwave entrainment have been discussed here before.
All the techniques he advertised in the kit have been advocated and been successfully used by lucid dreamers here, so, I suspect the kit will work.
BTW, I subscribed to the newsletter.
I might get it, it looks fun and I want to see if iot work, no harm done, get your money back if it doesnt work! What if it does work and I come on the forum and rave about it, how will you feel then? :lol:
If it works, I may offer to sell him advertising for it. We have a lot higher traffic rate than a google search for Lucid Dreaming :)Quote:
Originally posted by Xylaphonic
I might get it, it looks fun and I want to see if iot work, no harm done, get your money back if it doesnt work! What if it does work and I come on the forum and rave about it, how will you feel then? :lol:
Sinse it's all in your own mind, being told that the technique will work in just one week will have an impact wont it? That could be the secret behind it.
Instant Overnight Success always sounds suspicious to me. Why buy it when all of the information is available here free?
horse shirt,
Yeah, It would probably work, but Alot of it I can get for oh say FREE
As far as I'm concerned that is a better price to pay than $60
Nothing is a done deal. With Lucid Dreaming, the fact that your working and concentrating on it helps no matter what level. Anyone can do it with effort, with or without some overpriced kit.
:D
Before finding this site, I was looking around for a kit like this one, but didnt find anything. I looked around on ebay, and it seems to me that if you tried hard enough, you could probably find the same thing there for under 10 dollars. I almost grabbed up one of the CDS, but I just cant take anything for 1.75 seriously...Better to get advice from people here than pay for it from some guy selling CDS out of his basement.
Allen
We've had some great success with the mp3 I've created and it's free. It's a huge thread but has some great results posted within.Quote:
Originally posted by imageten
Before finding this site, I was looking around for a kit like this one, but didnt find anything. I looked around on ebay, and it seems to me that if you tried hard enough, you could probably find the same thing there for under 10 dollars. I almost grabbed up one of the CDS, but I just cant take anything for 1.75 seriously...Better to get advice from people here than pay for it from some guy selling CDS out of his basement.
Allen
http://www.interstellarwarfare.com/pizo/LucidRemix.mp3
Allow me to cast my vote in the horse shit category because I purchased this kit about 9 months ago and found that it had nothing new in it that is not already taught on this site. It is merely an attempt by the person that sells this kit to get rich quick using methods already taught on this site, as there is nothing new in this kit.
The only value I got from the kit was a 72 minute cd which had a lot of binaural beats in it which was so effective in raising my awareness that I couldn't even go to sleep while listening to it, but at least I learned something from the cd that was helpful in making up own cd's.
As for the screensavers with subliminal messages and other garbage that came with the course, I found them to be totally worthless. And you can't install them on your computer at work because in order for the programs to work they have to connect to their internet site to give you access to use them. In addition the programs come with a licensing agreement that says you are only allowed to install the programs on one computer.
The worst part about this course though is even if you buy it, the company is so parenoid that someone might try to give someone an illegal copy of it that they have the programs constantly trying to connect to the internet after you buy it so they will know who all is using their crappy programs. And the course is even password protected, so I had to call to find the password before I could even access the course. The password was lucidity.
Although I bought the course, I am not currently using a single thing from it. Don't waste your money on this course. It is merely another get rich scheme. In fact, I wouldn't buy anything that this guy sells, as from what I have read about his other products on another dream site, they are even worst and less effective than the lucid dreaming kit, in addition to being more expensive.
phoenelai,
I actually downloaded your MP3 last night, but havent got around to trying it out yet. The music in the background is really cool...reminds me of a old band called Goblin (one of my favourites). Ill let you know if it works for me
Allen
Very cool. We've had some good results so far here on Dream Views. I'm about to release version 3.2 which really is a completely new mp3 for the most part. I'm still testing and tweaking but keep your eye out. The first night testing I had the most amazing HI (Hypnagogic Imagery) I've ever experienced.Quote:
Originally posted by imageten
phoenelai,
I actually downloaded your MP3 last night, but havent got around to trying it out yet. The music in the background is really cool...reminds me of a old band called Goblin (one of my favourites). Ill let you know if it works for me
Allen
:D
Any ETA?
Thanks for the review, iadr ;)
As for chatting about the mp3, a mention is fine, but .. um.. you guys have your own thread on it :)
Correct, please see the thread for developement on 2.3. Were making this new version hopefully a team effort in some sort of way.
Cheers!
You're welcome Placebo. In order to be fair I would have to say that the kit could be beneficial to someone who works from home and would be sitting at their computer all day long, as there is a reality prompter that comes with the kit that can be set up to flash messages on your screen every 15 minutes such as "Is this real ?" or "Am I dreaming" which messages can also be substituted with random audio messages. So I did get some ideas from the dream kit.Quote:
Originally posted by Placebo
Thanks for the review, iadr ;)
But the fact that they have everything setup where you have to connect to their website just to install the programs reminds me just a bit too much of Microsoft and their Windows XP activation, and made the program unusable at my work, which is where I spend most of my time.
I see from the ad link you have here that they removed the lie they had in their ad that only 250 copies of the program were going to be sold at $59.95, after which the price would increase, which it obviously hasn't.
Actually, I've seen two or three other sites for products that use that exact same tone and language.
Only I don't remember the URLs, so I can't show you, but if I remember them I'll point them out. One was to do with Olde Magick.
Also, the site I just mentioned also had a lie about 250 copies left.
I'd far rather listen to my mp3 collection :PQuote:
Originally posted by iadr
You're welcome Placebo. *In order to be fair I would have to say that the kit could be beneficial to someone who works from home and would be sitting at their computer all day long, as there is a reality prompter that comes with the kit that can be set up to flash messages on your screen every 15 minutes such as \"Is this real ?\" or \"Am I dreaming\" which messages can also be substituted with random audio messages. *So I did get some ideas from the dream kit. *
I wrote an image-based subliminal message program, in the efforts of figuring out if it works.
Unfortunately I complicated things by doing self hypnosis on myself around the same time.
Something worked, because I had 2 weeks of 15 lucid dreams, but I haven't a clue what :?
If my sleep patterns weren't polyphasic, I'd try it again.
Come on... Let's be realistic here. When you see paragraphs written like this, isn't it obvious that it's a scam? Seriously. The page is full of tell-tale signs; the heavy over-use of formatting and the way they make it sound oh-so special ("ONE SECRET SKILL", "change your life"). Just read the whole page. Alarm bells should be ringing throughout the entire read. It's so obvious that it's hilarious. I read it a couple months ago and I couldn't stop laughing.Quote:
After years of research, I now know more about ONE SECRET SKILL than almost anyone you're ever likely to meet. It's a skill that can literally change your life... *OVERNIGHT.[/b]
Good observation as this con artist takes takes a known herb like Calea Zachtechich and calls it the one little-known herb, takes words like Clarity Now and calls them the Two Secret Words, and advertises a 90 minute technique that increases your chances of a lucid dream by 2000 percent, which is nothing more than the wake up and go back to bed method, and makes them sound like something he invented himself, when the truth of the matter is, he probably knows less about lucid dreaming than most people on this site do. He's quite the con artist.Quote:
Originally posted by MartinB
Come on... Let's be realistic here. When you see paragraphs written like this, isn't it obvious that it's a scam? Seriously. The page is full of tell-tale signs; the heavy over-use of formatting and the way they make it sound oh-so special (\"ONE SECRET SKILL\", \"change your life\"). Just read the whole page. Alarm bells should be ringing throughout the entire read. It's so obvious that it's hilarious. I read it a couple months ago and I couldn't stop laughing.[/b]Quote:
After years of research, I now know more about ONE SECRET SKILL than almost anyone you're ever likely to meet. It's a skill that can literally change your life... *OVERNIGHT.
Thank you. This is exactly how I felt about it, but didn't want to spoil the exercise by mentioning it first.Quote:
Originally posted by MartinB
Come on... Let's be realistic here. When you see paragraphs written like this, isn't it obvious that it's a scam? Seriously. The page is full of tell-tale signs; the heavy over-use of formatting and the way they make it sound oh-so special (\"ONE SECRET SKILL\", \"change your life\"). Just read the whole page. Alarm bells should be ringing throughout the entire read. It's so obvious that it's hilarious. I read it a couple months ago and I couldn't stop laughing.[/b]Quote:
After years of research, I now know more about ONE SECRET SKILL than almost anyone you're ever likely to meet. It's a skill that can literally change your life... OVERNIGHT.
I really hate people who say that they're having a sale that's going to end at the end of the day, and then the same sale is reposted and renewed everyday. It's a pure scam mentality, and it annoys the shit out of me. At least, I don't have much respect for this person. I'm not even sure if the kit is real....
I would venture to guess that it was the self hypnosis that caused the 15 lucid dreams in a 2 week period Placebo. I wrote a subliminal message program of sorts in Visual Basic that just flashes messages in a small text box I created at the top of my screen, which I can see, but which flashes them so fast that I cannot read what they say, but haven't really noticed any improvement since running the program. I've also create several subliminal sound files using Mulitisequence which I listen to at work, but haven't noticed any improvement from these either, so I've about given up on subliminals.Quote:
Originally posted by Placebo
I wrote an image-based subliminal message program, in the efforts of figuring out if it works.
Unfortunately I complicated things by doing self hypnosis on myself around the same time.
Something worked, because I had 2 weeks of 15 lucid dreams, but I haven't a clue what *:?
If my sleep patterns weren't polyphasic, I'd try it again.
What makes me think that your 2 week success with lucid dreaming was caused by the self hypnosis, is that I had a similar success using self hypnosis several years ago. I was listening to a tape I made up that told me I had a photographic memory and could remember things very easily, when 1 morning I just happened to get into a particular deep state of meditation while listening to it. Instantly, I had a photographic memory and could remember anything and everything. Unfortunately it eventually wore off after about a month and my memory returned to normal, never to be photographic again.
It it amazing what can be accomplished with the right suggestions in the proper state of mind. Unfortunately though these suggestions need to be enforced or else they tend to wear off.
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no one can really be 100% sure that its a scam. Even if you think you know its a scam and yeah, it kinda sounds like it. me, i dont really care about ordering it cause its got a 3 month warranty so whats the big deal. anyway i already ordered it and ill let you guys know how it works. if its shit, its going back.
Hmmm... No wonder scams like this work when people will still order the product despite mountains of evidence that it's a scam. Some people just don't learn.
What evidence?? the only evidence you have that its a scam is he used capital letters. wow, big deal.
You are delusional.
Thanks for that experience iadr , I appreciate it.
I also tend to thing it's the self hypnosis that had the effect