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Everyone says to attain lucidity, you gotta not let your mind wander before you sleep. But the only way that i can fall asleep is IF my mind wanders. I have to let it go. If i start thinking about flying tree stumps or something i know i'm gonna black out in like 2 seconds. if i don't zone out i just lay there for hours. :?:
I hear ya - I'm the same way. If I try to concentrate on attaining lucidity, I just lie awake. But if I zone out, I fall asleep right away. Sorry I can't give you any advice, but I'd like some as well!
same here :?
Yeah I notice that too. If I let my thoughts wander I can actually feel falling asleep. But I cannot really force 'random thoughts', they just happen if I just... don't try not thinking about anything.
When I started researching LD's and read the WILD technique, i was not surprised that the breathing technique is the same as zen meditation, try practicing zen meditation for 20 minutes every day.
http://www.mro.org/zmm/meditation/
It should help you understand how to deal with random thoughts, and if nothing else it has it's own set of benefits.
Meditation is the key for mental power.