When you become lucid (meditation)

The more I meditate the more I can relate it to becoming lucid in a dream.
Every time toughts of the past, future or you analyse things or situations with more then a gentle nudge in your mind, you brake away from the 'now'.

So what is it that differs from lucid and non lucid?

You could say it's as easy as not knowing your dreaming and knowing.
I would say it's like in meditation. You observe your thoughts. You are aware of them but you dont lett your awarnes follow them.

When I meditate and focus on the now and suddenly relice there are thoughts I was not even aware of following, it can sometimes be so strong a sensation that feels exacly as becoming lucid in a dream.

Thoughts? questions?

Edit:
added "meditation" to topic

Hey Raz,

Well I guess it would be interesting to hear more about what kind of technique for meditation you use.

I tried meditation for a while and thought the whole point of it was to clear thoughts and try to focus only on yourself - the being. Your form of meditation seems to rely on actually observing the thoughts. Is this correct?

During my meditation I have noticed that at times I would become "lost" or "zone out" - only to be snaped back to thought and awareness. It's possible that I just simply fell asleep in the process. However, it is also possible that i pulled myself into a deep state or trance in which I could not recall what happened, because it would have been a state of complete thought emptyness.

Makes sense? Or did I just make things even more complicated? :imslow:

i always thought the point of 'meditation' was only peripherally "clear your mind" in an attempt to attain total focus on one thing. once you can succeed in applying total focus to something very small (your breathing, for instance) you can slowly expand the target of focus until it encompasses yourself and everything you can perceive at one time. but maybe i'm just describing something specific.

Meditation is the practice of concentrating the mind by consciously restricting the thinking process. The goal is to either totally clear the mind, making it blank (void/nirvana), or to have a single thought occupying it (mantra/affirmation).

In the beginning, there will always be irrelevant thoughts trying to occupy the mind and these must be immediately stopped from escalating into a stream of irrelevant thoughts. Observe the thought, then let it fade away before it triggers a stream of new irrelevant thoughts. The mind must be constantly returned to its spiritual center -- either the void, or the mantra -- which must be maintained until the next irrelevant thought arises. And so the meditation process endless repeats itself...

The goal of meditation is the development of inner clarity, inner power, and enhanced consciousness.

I meditate with everything I do in my daily life. It's all about keeping focus on the now. People doing the lucid living, going around pretending they are dreaming are focusing on the now.

There are endles techniques and you can combine techniques. Sticking to just one form of meditation will not get you very far in exploring your self and maturing your mind. It is very individual and depending on where you are in your life what will work for you. a technique that maby did not give you anything a year ago might give you a experiance and realisation that will blow you away after playing around with some other techniques.

Combining physical meditation, like martial arts, dansing, going to the gym or what ever you prefere. With inner exploration meditation is just amazing.

When you walk, when you eat, when you brush your teeth. Where is your conscious? In the past? in the future? or in the now?

The past and future dose not exist. Our minds create that. There is only now. So live and enjoy now.

After a while you learn to turn your thoughts on or off like a radio.

Do not push away your thoughts. acknowledge them when they acure and just let them slip away in to nothingnes where they came from.

There is no wrong way to meditate. Try difrent ways and choose what feels natrual.

Never have expectasions when you meditate. This is very important or you will just end up frustrated. Just take things as they come.

You have been practesing your mind your entier life. With everything you do that requiers focus of the mind.

And remember.... What every you experiance when you meditate: NO FEAR.



You can find endles techniques if you do a search on the web. Some state things like: it should be quiet or never dark or whatever. That might be corect for the author but is it for you? Play around with it... and most importand: Enjoy it =)

Hope this is of some help....

Questions? Thoughts?

Yes, I started meditating for half an hour, before breakfast, and before dinner. Before dinner, I normally go outside, and insyead of my usual breathing techniques, I just.. listen. You become much more aware, and I bet after a couple more weeks of meditation and recall, I'll be able to easily start a LD.