Self-suggestion Truly does work.

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05-31-2006, 03:32 AM
tehownerer

Self-suggestion Truly does work.

A lot of people new to lucid dream don't see how important self-suggestion is. Most of the time they come here and want an ld right away so they go for WILD. Its not that easy. Although I want to do WILD, I never normally can.

Well anyways, Last weekend I was off and thinking to myself that i am off on the weekend now and I should go Lucid Dream. This was Friday. It was getting late and I said to myself, "Time to go lucid dream" and I got some hemi-sync music and had THE best LD I have ever had. Extremely long and vivid.

Self-suggestion has everything to do with it, Don't fake tell yourself that "I will lucid dream" you truly need to believe it. When I was going to bed I literally just said that I am going to go lucid dream now. I didn't question it or thought about it. And I guess it seemed to work.

Having an LD Is an off-occurence for me. I have only had 7 (not as a child, I had millions of being able to know its a dream but I immediately woke myself up because of nightmares and such) The 7 that I have had were between now and January '06 when I first started LDing at will.

I definetly want to truly try wild but self-suggestion worked really well and I wasnt even trying a method or anything. I just said I would go LD now and listened to that one LD tape.mp3.(which could of helped ;) )

Seriously, for the newbies, learn dream recall, then dont doubt self-suggestion.

I will possibly try a WILD tonight. i have finals this week so a LD where I can study would be awesome =p
05-31-2006, 03:41 AM
Howie

You are soo correct tehownerer
True believe erases the line between real and unreal. Self hypnosis and dream incubation and and unobscured belief in self suggestion working is pertinent.
I go as far to say it is not a suggestion, but a fact. It is real and it does happen!
06-01-2006, 10:31 PM
PenguinLord13

I agree with you so much. I actually haven't tried WILD yet, as I am waiting to become at least somewhat proficient at control and LD more often first, but I totally agree. I personally like self-hypnosis as then you are doing it in a trance and it is a lot easier to BELIEVE in it and not get too distracted in negative "i will probably fail" thoughts. At least one of the times I did it (i've done it twice), I had an LD a few nights later. I don't remember about the other time but I think I had a couple then too. Sadly I didn't remember any of them. I think I'll do it again today or tomorrow if I get a chance.
06-02-2006, 05:56 AM
computernerd90

I agree as well, it's the way i first came into an LD. I just suggested to myself that I was going to wake MYSELF up from the dream, not just to let it wake me up, and through that I had my LDs. There's only been a couple nights I've done this, though.
06-02-2006, 10:53 AM
Mr.caramel

i do it

I did that to and i got my first LD by doing that to. I don't do it as much for a couple of reasons. Firstly i am to awake and it takes ages before i fall a sleep, secondly i try to amuse my self by making random stories and visulizeing them in my mind thinking i will get more sleepy but i over do it and fall asleep. Thridly because i have made random stories every time in my mind ever since i was born it gets boring repeating the same thing over and over so i move on to random stories. I am now trying to leave my eyes open when i want to have a random story and then when my eyes start to close i then start doing this technique. Its starting to work but im training myself to do this tech longer and longer soi i can have more of a chance at getting one(or two). :D
06-03-2006, 12:51 AM
HallsOfMandos

Re: Self-suggestion Truly does work.

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Originally posted by tehownerer
I just said I would go LD now and listened to that one LD tape.mp3.(which could of helped ;) )

have link to that mp3?
06-05-2006, 06:36 AM
tehownerer

yes... its the hemi-sync tapes converted to an mp3. About 4 tapes. A lot of the links are down now.

here is the link to where you can buy them... http://www.toolsforwellness.com/71051.html

I am sure if you search you can still find them downloadable somewhere.
06-06-2006, 08:27 PM
PenguinLord13

Self-suggestion induced a LD last night for me. I don't know if it was the self-hypnosis I did on saturday, or my active RCing, but one of them induced an LD. It was pretty low level, and short, but it was an LD all the same. By active RCing (which I believe is the way to go if you're gonna bother RCing at all), I mean that I ask myself, "Am I dreaming?" I then actively do a few reality checks (i.e. "My hands look normal, I cannot stick my finger through my hand, and I cannot breath through my nose while it is shut..."). Only then do I conclude I am not dreaming, and say (in my head after doing RCs), "... therefore I am not dreaming, but next time I do dream, I will becom lucid." I believe that in doing this I am taking a double approach by combining reality checking with reminding myself that I will LD.
06-07-2006, 09:58 PM
samchestido

[quote]You are soo correct tehownerer
True believe erases the line between real and unreal. Self hypnosis and dream incubation and and unobscured belief in self suggestion working is pertinent.
I go as far to say it is not a suggestion, but a fact. It is real and it does happen!

offtopic: Howetzer, your skullavatar always scares the shit outta me :? :oops: :P
06-07-2006, 10:17 PM
gale

howetzer how do you get those images in your signature line?
06-07-2006, 11:36 PM
Howie

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Originally posted by samchestido+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(samchestido)</div>

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offtopic: Howetzer, your skullavatar always scares the shit outta me :? :oops: :P[/b]

Sorry.... :(

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howetzer how do you get those images in your signature line?

I found the image on the net and after that I just had to fit the dimensions that are allowed in the profile.
Once I find the image I use image shack and host it from my computer. Then I copy the URL and post it in the Sig spot.
:)
06-08-2006, 02:42 AM
gale

??????????????????ok?in english for the tecnology deficent?
06-08-2006, 03:16 AM
skuruza

lol no really, a smile came across y face when u said that... lol... :lol: :lol: :lol:

of course, ya i cant blame ya, for non-technological (or at least a ones who don't know much bout pcs) that would be challenging... lol. i understood every word of that. :P
06-10-2006, 11:50 PM
gale

ok you might understand what he said but i dont so tell me in english please? oh and thats a duck not a prairedog.
06-10-2006, 11:59 PM
ilovefrootloopz

1)Go to imageshack.us
2)Click browse and find the image on your computer
3)Copy the URL (http://www.imageshack.us/YOURPICTUREURL.png or gif or jpeg) next to the text that says "Direct Link to Image"
4)Come back to this forum, and click "Profile" at the top.
5)In the signature part, put in there. Change PICTUREURL to the URL of the picture (discussed in part 3).
06-11-2006, 06:06 AM
Howie

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Originally posted by megabenman
1)Go to imageshack.us
2)Click browse and find the image on your computer
3)Copy the URL (http://www.imageshack.us/YOURPICTUREURL.png or gif or jpeg) next to the text that says "Direct Link to Image"
4)Come back to this forum, and click "Profile" at the top.
5)In the signature part, put in there. Change PICTUREURL to the URL of the picture (discussed in part 3).

Thank you megabenman!
I am not very good at explaining myself.
Sorry :?
06-11-2006, 01:14 PM
grayegg

I find WILDing dificult, maybe because I never actually put myself in a position where I can try it. I can't tell myself what to do after only 5-6 hours of sleep, I'm pretty stubborn when drowsy. Another problem are outside distractions, other people around me are starting to get up and the sunlight is starting to pour in. Getting back to sleep is sometimes dificult or impossible if I roused myself too much.

So far suggestion has been the most effective for me too. Well, almost. I think I have to get a little frustrated with a lack of success as well. After a couple of days of "ugh, I wasn't even close to realizing I was dreaming" I miraculously know I'm in a dream without any discernable reason why I happened to realize it. RC I practiced while awake just serve as experiments to try out once in an LD (perhaps as confirmation if it's especially vivid).
06-11-2006, 01:27 PM
Leo Volont

Oh, yes, years ago before all of the New Age Workshop Techniques for Lucid Dreaming and all of the Expensive Junk that La Barge put on the market, to clutter our night tables and ofcourse to make himself rich-ER, we had SUGGESTION.

Go back to Dr. Ann Faraday's classic "Dream Power" and you will find that repeated suggestion to better our dreams, to become better dreamers, and to be better people while in our Dreams -- it all revolved around SUGGESTION.

And it worked great.

What is the Power of Prayer, after all, but SUGGESTION dressed up in its Sunday Best.
06-13-2006, 12:57 AM
Moonbeam

Re: Self-suggestion Truly does work.

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Originally posted by tehownerer

Self-suggestion has everything to do with it, *Don't fake tell yourself that "I will lucid dream" you truly need to believe it. *When I was going to bed I literally just said that I am going to go lucid dream now. *I didn't question it or thought about it. *And I guess it seemed to work. *

i have finals this week so a LD where I can study would be awesome =p

Thanks tehonwerer, I read your post last night right before bed, and I told myself tonight I WILL lucid dream and it totally worked, I had the longest one ever. I couldn't escape the weird hotel/hospital/restaurant place I was in, but I wandered around for a long time, totally aware. I need to work on improving my environment and remembering to try spinning, but I was very happy with that much success. So thanks! Somehow, reading your post did it. I told myself to do it, I really believed it, and it worked.

But how do you study? Can you read? Do you just go over stuff need to memorize? Good luck on your finals.
06-14-2006, 06:33 PM
cecile

Well...
last night I was pretty sure I believed that I was going to Lucid dream
and as I feel asleep I repeated over and over
I am going to realize I am dreaming
over and over
aanndd no lucid dream :(
I'm new to this kind of
but maybe the problem is that I truely didn't believe it
hmmm
I need to have more faith?
ha
06-14-2006, 08:19 PM
Mr.caramel

You know what really works is that before you go to bed read as much topics you want on these forums and before you fall a sleep do the suggestion thing.
Anyway it might be a lot different for you as we are all different and dream at different rates.
Plus when you do have a lucid dream don't think its going to be what you think it will be.
I learnt that on my first Lucid (oh the nightmares i had from it).
But do know this: You will have a lucid dream and self-suggestion does work, it just need time.
Or it might be you did but your recall might have been off that night.
Plus all lucid dreamers always have an off night or so, so don't be disheartened.
06-16-2006, 08:35 AM
skuruza

Re: Self-suggestion Truly does work.

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Originally posted by Moonbeam

*I couldn't escape the weird hotel/hospital/restaurant place I was in, but I wandered around for a long time, totally aware.

OMG I had the same thing!!! they tried to make evry1 into zombies, and i was resisting them, tryin to escape...

weird dream huh? :roll:
06-17-2006, 01:03 AM
Moonbeam

Re: Self-suggestion Truly does work.

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Originally posted by skuruza

OMG I had the same thing!!! they tried to make evry1 into zombies, and i was resisting them, tryin to escape...

Hmmm....must have been a different establishment; I don't remember any zombies. The workers were acting kind of strange. More like ignoring me tho.
06-17-2006, 01:11 AM
Moonbeam

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Originally posted by Mr.caramel+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mr.caramel)</div>

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You know what really works is that before you go to bed read as much topics you want on these forums and before you fall a sleep do the suggestion thing. [/b]

Yes!! That is the thing that has worked the best, by far, for me.

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Originally posted by Mr.caramel@
Plus when you do have a lucid dream don't think its going to be what you think it will be.

Also true. It is weird how you can be totally aware you are dreaming, but not have control over the environment; and other people still seem to have such a will of their own! Like they don't know they are just DC's. Also I always forget to do things I want to do.

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Or it might be you did but your recall might have been off that night.

That would totally suck to be lucid and not remember it. I am assuming I remember all of them. I usually wake up right away, and I am so happy I think about it for a while.