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Well, after doing it for about 15 minutes, I started to feel heavy. And after half an hour, I couldn't feel my legs. It seems to work okay, but I might need to tweak the method slightly. But anyways, good job discovering this method, Sythix. I like it. :bigteeth:
Try playing my latest MP3 track while you are trancing. See post: Hot New MP3 Download.
Nice! If you practice more it'll get deeper and deeper, also you can probably combine this with muscle relaxation techniqe or some brainwaves to go further. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by ;332081
Thanks ZenVortex, I'll check it out.Quote:
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Tried this twice last night. One before I went to sleep initially.
I tried it with a light dimly on, and after about 15 minutes I was experiencing twitching all over. But then it stoped. I tried once more with the light off and got very little results. No HI.
Tried it again after 5 hours of sleep. No results.
Plus, somehow I never get tired of blinking... my eyes do get a little heavy. Ill try it again soon.
Bumping this. I updated the first post with a new technique to induce full sleep paralysis easily.
I have a question. how much and how fast do you move your fingers? ill move them too little and fall asleep or move then too much and wake up too much.
You do it every once in a while, not too much and not too little - maybe about every 15-20 seconds. To prevent from falling asleep what you can do is instead twitching just your fingers, try twitching your feet, legs, arms, and even shoulder. Also you're not suppose to move your selected body part like in FILD, what you're doing is tensing the muscles quickly which causes a twitch, and that's all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Volcon
so smart! :)
Last night I tried before going to sleep, but I didn't get too far.
I once was trying to grab something in the HI, and it made my real hands
feel very weird. I tried for about 30 min, and got up feeling sore.
I meant to try it at 4:30, but I don't remember what happened lol
I guess I was pretty tired.
BTW a few times, the twitching made me uncomfortable.
This technique is great. It almost worked for me the first time. Im a bit of a noob at wilding but Im pretty sure I atleast got to HI. So I was doning the 12345 open look at smoke detecor green light shut then after a few times it got harder and harder to open until i could not open them anymore. Then my body got all tingly/vibrations and my hands clenched then my head felt fuzzy I take it this is sp. So then it felt like someone was strangling me but i read somewhere this is normal. Then I saw a few patterns and then a white bird fly across a black back round. To give you an idea of what the bird looked like it was the 95 philadelphia eagle logo if anyone cared. After this I blacked out I dont know why. So how close was I?
Very well-explained technique; one of the best I've read, so I tried it.
I got my body numb, and I actually saw some VERY low-level HI (think 2-4 flashes of light). No SP, but still, I think it was a very awesome experience for a first go at WILD, and I followed your technique too!
One thing I think I learned: Instead of focusing on breathing after the reverse blinking, I focused on the blood-pulse sound of my ear against the pillow. This is TRULY an unconcious bodily function, and cannot be controlled, AND is constant and repetative. Next time, I'm gonna focus on this alone.
Great method!
Hi King-Tut-Tommy,Quote:
Originally Posted by King
You were extremely close to phasing into a lucid dream state and have reached a deep trance where HI formed (the bird) - good job for your first try! I updated the first post with a new tip on how to grab a hold of Hypnagogic Imagery at this stage of the WILD, so I suggest you try that and see if you won't black out this time. Blacking out is common, but the more your practice the less it'll happen. If watching HI results in you losing consciousness then become involved with the HI.
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Hi Richter,
Thanks for trying my technique :). I think focusing on your blood pulse is a really good idea, I've done a WILD like this before just by focusing on the tinnitus ringing noises you hear in your ears when its night and there are no sounds - the tinnitus gets more intense until you start to vibrate and so on. Also be sure to check the first post because I updated it with a tip on how to grab a hold of HI. Later
ugh i have so much trouble wilding. becuase ill be almost to sp and ill have to swallow spit. gets annoying i tried to sleep on my side but then i get uncomfortable. ill prop my head so it pools at the bottom of my mouth but i still have to swallow.Any tips?
Question- Do you let HI come when you are between blinks?
Do you count the time between blinks? I get pretty serious HI all the
time, and sometimes even hear things when sitting up in bed while im tired...
What I was doing is open, focus, close, drift into HI, remember
about techique, and repeat. I kinda let the HI come and put the technique
in the back of my mind. Is that right?
For the swallowing thing, what I do (though I've never successfully WILDed)
and what others say to do, is just don't worry about it. Swallow and go on;
same with moving position. Seems that getting distracted by these things
is worse that losing concentration and being right back on track.
I tried this again at about 3 hours sleep, but I had the most crazy and illogical thought
patterns, my sense of time was all messed up, and I couldnt get back
to sleep... and If I can't get back to sleep at 4AM, somethings WRONG lol
Ill keep trying!
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Originally Posted by eggbert
Yes, sometimes I let HI come between my blinks but usually I start to watch it. Another tip I have for increasing the HI is to look 'beyond' it, try to see past all the HI and doing this will cause an explosion of very vivid HI and from there a dream forms and you go into it. If HI comes as easily to you, then you can use reverse blinking to induce a trance state and then muscle twitch into sleep paralysis, from there you might have already been experiencing HI so now do the tips I've given on HI and develop a dream with that and complete the WILD. To recap: Reverse Blink to Relaxed/Trance State.....Muscle Twitch to Sleep Paralysis.....Increase HI and form a Lucid Dream....
Edit: First post has been updated with the new HI tip. If anyone is having trouble experiencing Hypnagogic Imagery or Imagery of any kind, let me know and I'll post techniques on how to develop vivid imagery, very easy and also increases intellegience/IQ and etc. I might be developing a new technique soon with this type of vivid imagery.
Don't exactly know what you mean by look beyond, but I'll give it a try.
Could it be likened to focus farther off in your HI? Because HI is kinda like
watching a movie to me, and it seems pretty 2d, where you only move your
eyes up and down. Do you mean you change you focal point as in real life?
well cheers, and goodnight,
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Originally Posted by eggbert
Yes HI is 2d at first and then it turns 3d later on, while its 2d I mean try to look behind it, like you're seeing past the HI and not at it if you know what I mean? Yes changing your focal point as if you're seeing beyond your eyelids, that's what I mean. :)
I am quite frusrated. its last two nights I didn't even get out of bed, and went back to sleep (though intending to do the RBT) and the night before I was thinking all weird, and so on, I don't think I have YET to attempt this in the morning without dropping off in 3.7 sec. Next time I wake up, I am SO getting out of bed lol.
This is very interesting. My only trouble is that I never sleep on my back. lol. But I'll still try it once I get back into the rhythm of things since I took about a 6 month break from LDing.
This is a fascinating technique, but I have a lot of trouble with it.... I used to get to a point where I'd be so far into it, I'd start to be just drifting off entirely, and then it's like there's this "click", and everything turns white, and I come rushing back to full consciousness.... Now I can't even get that far, I just don't seem to drift off at all.... I've never seen any HI, and only once have I heard anything, I heard what seemed to be a rock smashing on a highway sign or something.... I just don't get what I'm doing wrong....
How do you know if you've hit a trance state? I don't think I've ever gotten to one. The other night I managed to get to a point where I wasn't quite sure if I was awake or dreaming, I opened my eyes and everything seemed like it was moving in waves, like how the ground looks on a really hot day.... My mind was really fuzzy, and I can't remember it all that well, but I remember figuring out that I was actually awake.... Was that near/in a trance state?
Hmm no HI? Thats strange... Maybe your just not paying attention?
If you subvocalise,(saying something in your head) im pretty sure that will override it. Its really weird. I hear SO many things, people I know saying
weird things, and it sounds exactly like them. Its pretty subtle, and if you pay
too much attention, it'll go away. Maybe just try a tad of consciousness while
drifting off?
Anyways, still having trouble attempting it, like my iPod wasn't sounding the
alarm lol. Its always something like that.
This technique is just far too intriguing! I have never been able to WILD, and still have not, however i did try this technique this afternoon. Total elapsed time was 25 minutes.
I used reverse blinking until my eyes wouldn't open anymore.
I felt my body twitch "involuntarily" like i was going into SP. I have never experienced this before.
Every time i found myself regain conciousness even a little too much, i just used reverse blinking again, and bam, before too long my eyes were too heavy to open again.
My mind did drift somewhat, but i also had some HI.
I am convinced that if i had kept at it for a longer period of time i would have achieved my first WILD, however i did have time constraints.
Too cool. I have read on the Lucid Crossroads website that the WILD technique is like the holy grail of lucid dreaming and i am incredibly eager to experience it first hand. I think the best analogy for reverse blinking is that it's like falling asleep in front of a TV. Your eyes only open for a second at a time, and you keep going back into a deeper state of relaxation/sleep. We've all been there before. I will continue to try this technique and report back to this thread, as i am quite sure we're on to something here. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge!!! Good luck everyone......
Wow, that's a great attempt, well done! :content:Quote:
Originally Posted by Nightmare
I love this technique. I should maybe do it for longer until my eyes can't open anymore and see how it goes. I can't wait!
Hey there. Last night I finally got to attempt this!
Kind of dissapointing. I had rusults just like a regular WILD attempt,
where I just keep doing it for maybe 30 min to an hour until I get fed
up and go to sleep. Nothing happened at all; No falling sesation or anything.
I have YET to see ANY results on any WILD technique. No SP whatsoever.
What do you do to make something happen?
Sythyx how many times has this worked for you?
I sure hope this works. Ive tried almost every (I'm serious) technique
to no avail.
Thanks!
I think I'll try this technique tonight.
However, I am also eager to know, how much this works for you, Sythix :)?