What happened here? Can i use this?

So maybe this is 100% normal, but i don't recall it happening like this before. I'm lying in my bed, trying to fall asleep. This was in the evening, i was in bed for my nights sleep. I'm dozing off in and out of consciousness. I'm also thinking about lucid dreaming, Not attempting anything, just trying to think about it a lot, however not forcing anything, i am quite relaxed. All of a sudden I forget im trying to fall asleep and am in a dream. I'm not lucid. I stand there looking at the clouds...they look like there is about to be a big storm. It is very vivid. So im admiring the beautiful clouds, all of a sudden i see that they look weird, to defined almost. And i am snapped awake. Its weird because it was only 5-10 seconds long but it was so vivid.

Is this normal? I only ask because it was so vivid and i didnt know i was dozing off. It was like a dream that i entered instantly into. I think it is probably normal....but can it be used to induce lucid dreams? If it had been longer maybe i could have gone lucid.

I do that too. It's like I'm not really asleep yet but my thoughts have gone to a really weird dream like state and sometimes I see images, but I can snap back really quickly at the slightest stimulus. Then I wonder if I missed a lucid opportunity. Is that WILD? I need to read that tutorial again.

I don't really understand it because I thought you don't go into REM for several hours, so I don't know if it is a real dream or not. Probably it talks about this somewhere in the tutorials.

I experience that kind of stuff too. Sometimes (rarely) I can control it, if I'm still conscious. That works best with sounds, especially voices and music; I hear them really realistically but I'm not asleep. But most of the times I just notice that things get quite realistic and I'm wide awake in no time. Didn't have longer scenes in that state though. I'd say it's usual sleep onset, except with consciousness involved.
As you first go to sleep at night, you rush through REM, but there is a short period of REM. Also you do have REM in every sleep cycle, but for the first hours it's very short, not very vivid and hard to remember (usually).

Whatever it is. Its really cool. Im lying in bed, and all of a sudden i forget and im looking at clouds. :-P

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Originally posted by Yatahaze
As you first go to sleep at night, you rush through REM, but there is a short period of REM. Also you do have REM in every sleep cycle, but for the first hours it's very short, not very vivid and hard to remember (usually).

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So I guess even if you get lucid during these micro-dreams they won't really last very long. Just practice.

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Originally posted by Yatahaze

As you first go to sleep at night, you rush through REM, but there is a short period of REM. Also you do have REM in every sleep cycle, but for the first hours it's very short, not very vivid and hard to remember (usually).

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Thanks for telling that :D Now I know how my nightmares when I was young were possible (I would go to sleep while still being afraid of some movie I saw that evening, and I would get a nightmare immediately when I fell asleep, and then I would wake up immediately, unable to go back to sleep, when only 3 minutes would have passed :roll:

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Originally posted by Moonbeam


So I guess even if you get lucid during these micro-dreams they won't really last very long. Just practice.

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Yes; I once went to bed at like 10pm and had a lucid at around 11.30 or so. It was very unstable, I didn't see much; I was also pissed because I knew that not much time has gone since sleep onset. So I wake up and I was wide awake, like after you just slept 10 hours or so. Annoying.

It almost sounds like an intense HI, the last sorta of HIs you get before you actually fall asleep