WILD - Thang

Hello guys, I want to tell you of my experiences as of late regarding my attempts to gain lucidity in the dream state.
I have always felt that the WILD technique is most suited to me even though most tell me that it is the hardest way to attain lucidity. However I have been one to embrace meditation in my life for a good number of years and so this process of staying conscious and focusing on one point, i.e. my breathing, seems quite natural for me. As this is my chosen technique I am going to stick with it for a good long while and see where I can take it.
I have been trying to enter the dream state through the WILD technique in the last few days and nights which has proven it's self to not be too successful. Let me explain what I have done while trying this technique:
First off, I have tried to WILD during afternoon naps, first thing when I go to bed at night and also after waking up in the middle of the night after 5 hours of sleep. Surprisingly I have found that I get much further during afternoon naps and when I first go to bed at night. as appose to when I wake after 5 hours sleep, in this instance I tend to not be able to concentrate and loose consciousness very easily.
During those afternoon naps and when I first went to bed of an evening I tried to use the technique outlined by BillyBob in his wonderful tutorial. I followed all the steps and indeed I did feel something happening. The most noticeable thing being my whole body feeling numb and very relaxed. At times I have felt my body rocking side to side and I have indeed seen vague moving lights behind my eyes but those experiences have not lasted very long and once they have faded away they tend not to come back. Also my concentration would not always stay focused and half the time I would fall unconscious.
That was as far as I got while employing that particular technique. However I was looking around the site and I found the VILD technique (I think that was the one anyway) I lay down on my side as though I were going to sleep as any other normal night. I think chose a scenario in which I am standing in a room with a door, two of my friends come running up to me saying "hey we are having a reality check game, hold your nose and breath in" I imagine my self doing this and when finding that I can in fact breath I say "wow, I am dreaming" then move towards the door. Then I start imaging the whole thing over again exactly the same. I did this last night and I found that this particular technique got me closer to getting into a dream than any other. After a while my whole body went very very numb and I got various waves and pulses wash over my body. At one point a sudden pulse hit me and I heard that high pitched sound ringing in my ears that you can generally hear when you meditate and focus on the sound inside your head. I felt like I was flowing right into my dream scenario but by the end it didn't come, I felt it wasn't going to happen right then so I turned over and went unconscious.
This was an amazing experience for me and indeed the furthest I have got with the WILD style technique. I wanted to share this with you, if anyone has any advice or anything feel free to let me know. :)
Peace

Well I am getting no further with any WILD style technique, but i wont give up!
I am however loosing some sleep in the process, oh well!

Peace :)

Some people find they have to try to roll over when the big pulse hits, and when doing it during the pulse, find themselves in their dreamworld! :)

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Originally posted by Wolffe
Some people find they have to try to roll over when the big pulse hits, and when doing it during the pulse, find themselves in their dreamworld! :)

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Yeah that is what I do when I WILD. It's such an amazing feeling after you get it for the first time.

Ah well I have never heard that before, sounds very interesting. I will try that today, see what happens. Thanks guys for the advise :)

Ok, last night I had a very strange experience that might be perfectly normal so I just want to ask you guys about it.
I was very tired and decided to do a WILD first thing as I went to bed that night. I find I can concentrate much better at this time. I wanted to focus my attention of something but not really follow any one method. I pictured myself in Christine's (we live apart at the moment) bedroom; I saw with my minds eye (as my eyes were closed) everything around me exactly as I remembered it, even Christine lying there next to me. This, I found, was a simple task and it really did help me to focus my attention and not have my mind wandering.

I have found that simply counting or picturing a scene over and over gets too boring for my mind and inevitably my mind wanders onto other things. However when picturing the room it really allowed me to imagine I was actually laying right there in the room and then I could take my time move my attention around the room looking at all the different things in there.

After a while of this my body was very numb and I was very relaxed, every now and then I would get a pulse of energy run through my body and send everything tingling and very spacey and floaty. Then I noticed after a while that my breathing had become very very shallow, as I focused on it, it became even more shallow to the point that it seemed I was not breathing at all, when this happened my lungs started to hurt as if I were holding my breath but not quite as bad, it seemed that If I didn't focus on it the pain would not be there but my breathing would still be so very slight. When it did seem that I was not breathing suddenly my whole body would again be hit with a pulse and everything would go even more numb. This happened every time I almost stopped breathing.

After a while of this and indeed lots of those lights behind my eyes (well they were more like thoughts of lights) out of nowhere I suddenly got a HUGE pulse of energy, a high pitched ring in my ears and the feeling that I was saddening falling upwards into a HUGE HUGE abyss but it also seemed like a massive cave or cavern that had walls to it that were infinitely far away stretching into forever. At this point my whole body went even more numb (I didn't think it could go anymore) and really really tingly, however I also became MORE aware of my body and could feel it in a different way (can’t explain but it felt like I could really sense my own skin) Also in this void/abyss/cavern my vision was covered with a kaleidoscope pattern that was very psychedelic and beautiful, but again it was more like a thought of a pattern instead of actually seeing it.
As soon as the Void thing hit me I was very very scared, it made my whole body go into a mild shock, my pulse went racing and I had a VERY strong urge to jump up and stop everything right there, it really really scared me, my whole body and mind were screaming "RUN RUN STOP IT NOW!"
I told my self to calm down and relax, be peace; it is okay I am completely safe. It took a lot of hard work but I stuck with it, I didn't move or open my eyes. Then the feelings faded and it all stopped, then everything went back to the normal numb feeling, I waited for a while then decided that it clearly wasn't going to work. I then simply fell a sleep for the night.

Now this experience is relevant to me because I have felt that void/abyss/cave thing before. The first time was when I was a little kid, maybe about 4 up to about 11 roughly. Many times this happened, I would wake up in the middle of the night and everything would seem very strange indeed. Everywhere I looked I saw the world moving, in and out. I had various strange sounds and a high-pitched ringing in my head, sometime It was so loud I could hardly hear anything else. I also had the feeling that I was missing something or I had missed out on something but this feeling is to hard to explain in words. Also every time I closed instantly I would feel that I am falling into this void. Patterns would stand out and basically everything would seem very very fake and weird and messed up. I was very scared during it and it lasted a long time after I woke up. Eventually it would go but after a long scary phase. This happened all the time but as I grew up I told my self to stop it and every time it happened I would kick my mind out of it. I don't feel that I have dealt with the problem but instead sort of pushed it aside. I would like to understand more about it and see what I might be linked too. This only happened at night however I could get certain feels associated with it during the day but it was not the same.
Anywho, I am writing all this as It is an interesting thing in my life and I would like to share it with you guys.
If anyone has any Idea how this might relate to the WILD technique I have been doing please comment.
Peace ;)

Very interesting and with such detail. I have to say WILD is my favorite technique. My process seems very simple and short. I use the WBTB and try to WILD. Basically I start paying close attentions to the HI's. Sometimes they are full dream images and all of the sudden I'm in the scene (dream) and lucid. Not many vibrations or heavyness. Although I do feel like my body is rested.