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Hey, I just wanted to share a quick tip that helps me personally LD. It's the WBTB method.
I have got 2 lucid dreams both doing the same thing. I wake up, go for a small drive, smoke a cigarette, come home, and go to sleep. And I have only done it 2 times. So each time I got lucid. I'm going to try it tomorrow again, I really think this is the method I needed all along. I'll post results. :content:
so ur saying we should start smoking? :?
No, just people that do smoke should when they use the WBTB method.
Oh BTW I tried it again this morning and I knew I was dreaming, but I never became lucid. I know sounds weird, because it is. :(
Last night i was viciously hugged by a guy who was smoking. i had a really long dream, but it wasnt lucid. and seeing as im under the age of 18, im not about to take up smoking just to be lucid. but hey, whatever works!
excuse me, you know you were dreaming, you were lucid, and just didn't have control. Anyways, I'm not taking up smoking for LDs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pyrox
This is probably the same reason why the guy said if you go to bed with a nicotine patch or whatever they are then it will help lucidity.
Moral of the story:
DO try WBTB
DON'T take up smoking
I don't think he was suggesting that everyone take up smoking. . . he was just giving an example of what worked for him. I understand why that might work actually. Nicotine is a stimulant. It's been show to increase metabolism as well. I DO smoke so I can try your neat method! How long do you sleep before waking up? How long do you stay up for? How long of a drive do you take? I love driving and smoking, it's prolly my favorite hobby. This sounds like the method for me.
Well finally someone knows what I'm talking about!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmie
Attention everybody : I wasn't telling you to smoke. I was like Jimmie Lynne said, telling you a method I use and somebody might be able to use it. Something that bugs me is how no one really says to many ways they induce it besides "WBTB method". And yes if you are under age, don't smoke. I did and now I'm hooked. But I don't want to quit.
Jimmie, I sleep from 12-5am. And I take a short drive, just enough to smoke a cigarette. I stay up maybe 30 minutes. I used to stay up longer, but shorter works better for me. You may need to try different times. And when I'm driving I'm only really thinking about dreaming. It works well. I go to sleep and know right away when I'm dreaming.
Penguin, I know what lucid means. But I don't consider knowing your dreaming, but not feeling like I'm doing any of it lucid. More of a semi-lucid dream. If I considered every dream like this lucid I would have around 20.
It sounds great. . . I'm in the process of trying it now :)
I know what you mean about semi-lucid states. It drives me nuts! There are alot of times while I'm dreaming that I know that I'm dreaming . . . but it's a vague and fleeting thought. . . the problem is taking that extra step to be willing and able to control it. I frequently will notice in a dream that the surrounding area is really vivid for a dream . . . but it won't even occur to me what that means and that I may be able to try to control my surroundings. . . That extra step is really difficult for me. But hey! That's what this is for! :)
I don't think nicotine really helps, But you know what I could be wrong maybe somehow this may effect others differently for instance I'm a Natural but I've realized that my Lucid Phase are heightened right around this time when there is a full moon. At least that's how it effects me. But I used to smoke and I lucidity was never intensified. But like I mentioned different strokes for Different folks something that may work for you may not necessarily work for me and vice versa. See to me that's the beauty of Lucid Dreaming. Everyone has a different induction method.
Please tell me you're kidding. :|Quote:
Originally Posted by Ne
How could a full moon induce a lucid dream? The only explaination: you heard it somewhere and now you think it works. Placebo. I'm not saying I can prove what I say, but it really has effected me. And before I realized it (2 lucid dreams). Then after I wanted to experiment with it. Which then I had a semi-lucid dream.
Funny, that's actually why I consider anytime you know your dreaming Lucid. It makes my Lucid count go up, and makes me feel proud of myself, otherwise I'd have like 2 :). It's mostly self esteem for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pyrox
Dang! I was wondering why everyone was passing me up so fast. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by PenguinLord13
But now I feel like I have more quality lucid dreams :)
No Actaully I'm as serious as a heart-attack. You tell me why should I believe your Lame-ass smoking technique, how can smoking induce a lucid dream? That shit don't work leave it alone. explanation: you heard it somewhere and now for some reason you think it work.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pyrox
You are so ignorant. Did you not read what I said above? I didn't hear it anywhere. I noticed that both times I got a lucid dream. Which obviously means that it helps ME. How can YOU tell ME that it doesn't work?! Whether it is the cigarette making me relaxed or the fact that nicotine is *gasp a stimulant. Same as caffiene. But no caffiene doesn't help at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ne
I can tell you something that DOESN'T induce lucid dreams. A full moon, "THAT shit doesn't work, leave it alone." Unless it's all in your head. Which it is.
BTW please learn how to structure a sentence. I feel like I'm talking to a kid in middle school.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ne
EDIT: And I wanted to clarify something. You may not know this, but when I say it's all in your head I'm not meaning it in a mean way. It quite literally IS in your head. A moon phase can't effect ANYTHING except the amount of light in the sky. But when you smoke a cigarette, you actually are getting an effect. Nicotine works as a stimulant, which I have read makes you concentrate more. And I do feel a more grounded awarness after a cigarette. So this can help LDing and wether you believe it or not it works for ME. That's it nothing more.
I think both points are probably valid.
Nicotine IS a stimulant. It's just as strong a stimulant as caffeine so if caffeine helps to induce LDs by keeping the mind a bit more alert while you're sleeping then nicotine should as well.
All you have to do to know that the full moon DOES have some sort of effect on the human psyche is talk to any ER doctor or cop. Just because we don't understand why the full moon effects people in odd ways doesn't mean that it isn't happening.
Fifty years ago western culture would have thought the lot of us delussional for believing we could create fantasy worlds in our own heads!
Who knows what's placebic and what's genuine? Does it matter? If someone said standing on my head for 5 minutes before going to bed would help induce lucid dreams and that night I had a lucid dream . . . maybe I just boosted my confidence. . . maybe the increased blood and oxygen yada yada yada. . .
I say do what works for you.
Well said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmie
Lol...Quote:
Originally Posted by i_need_to_dream
Viciously hugged? :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by i_need_to_dream
Yep, WBTB has lead me to many DILDs. I repeat "I'm dreaming" and go back to sleep.Quote:
Originally Posted by i_need_to_dream
Yeah, WBTB has seriously proven to work for a lot of people. Congrats on finding your technique man ;)