The Hag Returns

Yes i know this has probaly already been a thread (about 1000 prob) and yes its been discussed over and over but:

I was in sleep paralisis like normal (however it was one of the worst ones yet -feeling i would never wake up, but i wont go into that) and i was watching the HI. Ok fine so far, nothing scary, no scary thoughts at all!
Then suddenly there is this shadowy figure at my door, it waddles towards me and sits on my bed. I can feel its heaviness and the room feels darker, it feels evil.

So ok, what i want to know is why??? I mean HI really just reflects on waht you are thinking more or less (well thats what i heard) and i was not feeling fear or thinking anything scary. So why did there have to be that figure? and why did i instantly - as if instinctly - know it was evil?

Anything?

Thanks for putting up with me :P

hmm doesn't sound like any hi i know of, maybe a ghost/spirit of some sort. maybe you were already in a dream and didn't know it yet. sounds weird though. maybe i scary thought just came into your mind for a second or to, and you though you saw it doing these things.

Ahh i heard about someone saying somthing like that, all you gotta do is remember its a dream. and if the hag tries to mess with you just mess with it back, laugh at the hag and taunt the hag. its funny to see what it does, its a dream it cant hurt you and you get to look forward to a LD in a little bit. keep that in your mind and it'll be fun to have a hag. the reason it appeared is because SP tends to make you halucinate and experiance weird things, images appearing out of shadows. but have fun with it.



Good luck,
Volcon



(sorry if i repeated myself, i tend to think about somthing else then forget if i typed somthing already)

Check this out. I found some info a while ago about SP, because i experienced it for the first time, not knowing what it was. I felt like there was a presence in the room, and i was terrified. So i read up on it, and it happens to more people than just you and I...

In Chinese folk culture, sleep paralysis is referred as "gǔi yà chúang" (鬼压床), literally: "Ghost press bed": 鬼: ghost, 压: press, 床: bed. The belief is that a spirit or ghost is sitting or lying on top of the individual while they were sleeping, causing the sleep paralysis. This is thought to be a minor body possession by the forces from the dead, and usually doesn't cause any harm to the victim.
In India, there are two thoughts about sleep paralysis. One of the signs of approaching enlightenment is "witnessing sleep," that is to say, being lucid in sleep — such as with sleep paralysis. It was also believed within the movement that rakshasas (Hindu demons) may assail those making strides towards their own enlightenment and the good of all mankind. The other thought is a female entity, called Mohini (a demoness from the underworld), comes into the night-time world by means of ascending through a deep well. She is enchantingly beautiful, yet simultaneously horrific, unearthly, and deadly. Like her British Isles counterparts, she also seeks a male lover and human genetic material, presumably for the purpose of bearing a hybrid demon/human child.
In Japan, sleep paralysis is referred to as kanashibari (金縛り, literally: "bound or fastened in metal": kana: metal, shibaru: to bind, tie, fasten")
In Newfoundland, as a visit from the "old hag" (Irish: Ag Rog)
In Mexico, as subida del muerto (the dead climbing on top)
In Greek, as mora (in Greek: μώρα), the name cames has a Slavic root.
In German as Hexendrücken (witch pressing)
In Turkish, as karabasan (literally: "dark presser": kara: "dark/black":, basan: "pusher, presser". Most Turkish people believe that it's a metaphysical incident, and especially religious people believe that it's a jinn that causes the uncomfort; so generally some kind of prayer is advised)
In Hazaragi, as Syahi Zer Kado (pressing ink)
In the Southern United States, people have described it as "The witch riding your back"
In Korea, it is referred as Gawinullim, (가위눌림) literally in English: "To be pressed by Gawi." The meaning of Gawi is unclear but generally known to mean "spirits" or "demons." Another word in Korean "Gawi" is a homonym that means "scissors", which creates confusion for the accurate meaning of the word.
In Indonesia, Javanese people call it "tindhihen" (To be seated upon)
In the Philippines, Sleep paralysis is often associated with Bangungot.
In Vietnam, sleep paralysis is known as "ma đè", meaning a ghost or spirit lying on top of or pressing down on the person.
In the West Indies, being "ridden by a duppy"
In medieval times of Europe, attacks of sufferers of sleep paralysis may have given rise to the belief in mara, incubi, succubi, other demons and witchcraft. People in England believed that witches or hags rode on men's chests as they slept, and the feeling of being unable to breathe was attributed to a hag. This is why people who have had very little sleep may be described as looking "hag-ridden".
In traditional Russian belief symptoms reminiscent of sleep paralysis were attributed to the anger of domovoi, the home spirit, punishing people for bad husbandship or betrayal.
According to traditional Hmong beliefs, various states of sleep paralysis are thought to be the processes in which an evil spirit or demon sits down on a person usually in retaliation to wrongdoings. Some Hmong have deemed it as the process of getting 'squashed'.
Some scientists believe that many supposed occurrences of alien abduction, out-of-body travel, and other seemingly paranormal events may actually be due to misinterpreting the sensory effects of sleep paralysis.
Others have argued that sleep paralysis might be the point of separation of the "dream body" from the physical body and out-of-body travel then begins.
Traditional Islamic cultures would usually interpret this as an encounter with a Jinn (or "djinn"); a race of beings, similar to humans which inhabit the earth. The word "jinn" literally means anything which has the connotation of concealment, invisibility, seclusion and remoteness, and is one of the two beings (the other being Human) addressed directly in the Quran. In Islamic text, and scholarship, Jinns are considered beings, which like humans are accountable for their deeds and thus have free will. They are considered to have life and death, society, culture and religion.
In Laotian culture, it is called "pee um" translated as "ghost silencing you". The ghost or spirit is thought to visit you in the night, hold your arms and legs down, and even cover your mouth up so that no sound would come out when you scream.

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In Newfoundland, as a visit from the "old hag" (Irish: Ag Rog)
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I am from newfoundland, I brought up The HAG some time ago and everyone was very oblivious until I explained. It seems the particular newfoundland name is catching on! haha

scary stuff...

I hate going into sleep paralysis because it feels like i'll NEVER wake up. I have to stop and breathe in three breaths like 10 times and push as hard as i can to get my arms up... its scary and my adrenaline is pumping the whole time... :(

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Originally Posted by Volcon

Ahh i heard about someone saying somthing like that, all you gotta do is remember its a dream. and if the hag tries to mess with you just mess with it back, laugh at the hag and taunt the hag. its funny to see what it does, its a dream it cant hurt you and you get to look forward to a LD in a little bit. keep that in your mind and it'll be fun to have a hag. the reason it appeared is because SP tends to make you halucinate and experiance weird things, images appearing out of shadows. but have fun with it.
Good luck,
Volcon
(sorry if i repeated myself, i tend to think about somthing else then forget if i typed somthing already)
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Volcon, :thumbup: thats a really really good idea, yeah taunt the old hag she'll probably drift of crying lol. :upsidedown:

If that happend to me, I would start to pray. I know that this site tends to emphasise the scientific explanation to dream phenomena, but as a christian I KNOW that there is a spiritual side; I myself have had a prophetic dream. I just don't think that it's a good idea to ignore it.

I've had that happen to me once, I remember I was really scared... At fisrt, I thought it was my mom sitting on my bed, and then I thought to myself why would she come and sit on my bed in the middle of the night. Then I felt that "person" leaning down and I felt that it wanted to strangle me :eek: . I couldn't move or speak... Anyway, after that I found out that it's a common form of hypnagogia - or so they say on Wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypnagogic_hallucination

http://paranormal.about.com/library/weekly...m?terms=old+hag
http://www.legendsmagazine.net/90/askpsi.htm
http://www.whatwasthen.com/old_hag.html
http://www.ghostvillage.com/legends/2002/l..._11302002.shtml
http://www.lucidcrossroads.co.uk/guide.htm

Ugh yeah this is why I'm too afraid to try the WILD technique. I had this happen to me once before I knew what it was and it was terrifying, i thought there was actually some person in my house. This happened to my mother once too and she got really shook up by it.

Is there anything that reduces the risk of this happening?

hi hi hi..dont know if anybody here remembers me >:0

I once had a very strange sleep paralysis *I think..not sure still* when I was trying a WILD. It wasn't..scary so much as it was sudden and intense. I could see my room, even though I know my eyes are closed. And the light was on in my room instead of off - which is typical of a sleep paralysis to see your room as if you are on the bed, but its not really your room becuase your eyes are closed.

all of a sudden a force shock me and lift me up by the chest. my eyes were widened against my will as if something wanted me to see everything I can see. My head was lifted from the pillow because of the unseen force lifting my chest. the whole room shock violently like there was an earthquake, but I think it was me that was being shaken and not the room. at the same time loud noises were crackling and popping and..I heard coughing and weezing and hacking loudly in my ear as if some old dieing person was next to me.

I was terrified! It was all so sudden and quite a rush!! I thought I would explode or something. Then what ever was shaking me dropped me onto the bed. Everything was still and quiet again. I closed my eyes instantly as if I passed out from it. when I opened them I was in a dream where I had to roll out of my bed to participate in it