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alright so i have tried wilds but not in the usual way. instead of just sleeping and waking up and trying it.. i do it without sleeping. i get all the same effects as a wild besides i dont transition into a dream.. and the same cycle goes through. i tried it for an hour and a half and i did the cycle 3 times. so is it possible to do it without sleeping first?
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yes it is possible but its really hard. you have to stay concentrated for a while since your first rem period isnt till 90 min after you go to sleep.
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If I could stay conscous I might try staying awake in a WILD state all night and have lucid dreams throughout the night, but I can't seem to stay conscous.