Need Help On Wilding? Maybe This Will Help

alright i made this to help all those who wish to acomplish WILDing :) i myself am pretty much a beginner but i have a way that works for me. it might work for you, it might not so dont come screamin at me aight?

WILDs are pretty cool things. With r MILD you try your hardest and just HOPE for it to succeed. They are also quite difficult to master because of how random they are (you do this and get a lucid dream, do the exact same thing the next night and no lucid).

WILDs are a bit different. imagin, going to bed and thinking "hmm i think i want to lucid dream tonight" and doing it whenever you please! you could do whatever you wish all night and have many fantastic adventures! thats what is so great about WILDs you find your sweet spot and 90% of the time that will always work for you. they are just a bit harder to get started. So im going to explain how i WILD. maybe it will help you out, maybe not but hopefuly ill be able to help sombody. :) it comes in 3 basic steps So lets get started.

1. GO TO SLEEP! it is much harder to get relaxed when you WILD without geting sleep first. If you are lazy and dont want too, maybe WILDs are not your thing

2. WAKE UP/GO BACK TO BED: its difficult to say when cause its different for everybody. ive done WILDs after 3 hours of sleep, and after 5 its different for everybody. You know its a good time when you feel like crap and dont want to WILD lol also if you get hypnogogic imagery then see how long it takes you so see it. if you are seeing it after around 2-5 min or less of closing your eyes then you are pretty much there.
if not then do somthing that will get you a little bit more tired.
IF you are too asleep, like when you can't keep your eyes open and dont want to get out of bed, do somthing to become a little more awake, make sure you Get Out OF Bed to do that, and dont do anything that will get your adrenilane pumping. it will probably take awhile to find that sweet spot but it will be worth it :wink:

3. RELAX AND WAIT: thats all you have to do. What i have the most success with is just waiting, no counting, not to much thinking, just watch the hypnogogic imagery and wait. If you awake just the right amount then you wont have to wait long for the vibrations to start, maybe 5-10 min at most. Dont quit either!! for some people vibrations come suddenly and without warning you will be sitting there one second and the next you will start falling off your bed and hearing things. wait for the dream to stabilize and then be carful! WILDs tend to be a bit unstable at first. If you dont make it through the vibrations the first time, just wait cause you will probably get them a couple more times.

BIG TIP/SECRET!!: if you are having trouble getting through the vibrations here is a HUGE tip that helped me a ton. Breath hard. Thats it. Dont try and hack you lungs out but for some reason, breathing hard helps get you through the vibrations. breath just hard enough for you to hear it and you will probably get through with it. It is the best thing ive ever found in WILDing its simple and specific. just breathe hard and you will make it through alot easier than if you dont.

so there it is hopefully it will help. the hardest step will be step 2. just keep with it and you'll get yours yet!

good luck everyone :)

Do you get the vibrations every time? How big are the vibrations? Last night I attempted my first WILD but I messed up and just went to sleep. Im going to try this tonight :)

for me i do get the vibrations everytime within 10 min... if i do it right. How big the vibrations are varies but trust me you will know when you get them. they are very noticeable, your heart rate usually goes up and i get a rushing sound in my ears. good luck with your WILD man :)

Wow your heart rate goes up? Last night before I gave up on WILDing my heart started going really fast. I thought I was getting the fear or something so I decided not to go further. I didnt feel any vibrations though.

just stay calm and youll get through it. the vibrations are just a term though. you dont actully vibrate lol you just lay there but you feel like you are falling or moving etc.

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just stay calm and youll get through it. the vibrations are just a term though. you dont actully vibrate lol you just lay there but you feel like you are falling or moving etc.
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if that is all they are, i would have zero problems with them. i have had them before, just not sure what they were.

Thanks for the tips, FF!
I've been training myself with WILDing - and yet never really getting any success-
But I'm good at it - I wake up, turn the alarm off, and then write my dreams in my journal.

Quick questions
1) Should I write in my dream journal, or is that too much thinking?
2) Speaking of thinking, how much thinking should you do? Should you just keep a one track mind?
3) Can you give me a lil more info on "the sweet spot"?
4) So the magic variables are different for everyone? Is there a set of numbers that are an average, that are like the common for everyone?
Wow, I did NOT word that question very well o_O

My SP Symptoms

^ That's most of the things I've felt or heard in SP before (not seen).

Sometimes I find SP more exciting then the actual lucid that follows.

thanks for reading :content: and to answer you questions Armageddon

1. go ahead and write in your dream jornal it wont hurt. Just dont do anything to physical to wake you up like push-ups or things like that
2. dont think about anything to hard some people like to count when they WILD but it usually hinders me. find somthing to ponder on would be fine though. It really depends on how awake/asleep you are.
3. what i call the sweet spot it the time when you wake up and you would be able to WILD without having to prepare to much. so Seeing HI after 2-5 min without having to get much work is the sweet spot. I had the easiest time WILDing 2 nights ago after 3 hours of sleep, yet yesterday night after 4 hours i was put straight to sleep. Going to sleep the same time everynight helps with finding that sweet spot.
4. Yeah its different for everyone. some people have more success after 6 hours, some after 5, some even do it after they wake up in the morning. Me personally like earlier than that like 4 hours or 3, but On average i would guess most people have success after 5-6 hours of sleep, like with wbtb.

hope it helped you out some!

oh and thanks for the link blade :) i have had most of those symptoms in my WILDs also. Ive never had SP though :( or maybe i just jump into the dream to fast to notice it :? dont know

Thanks, that helped ^_^
I tried it, last night.
I fel asleep after about 2 minutes, lol.

I NEVER get cool HI's. All i get are the Fireworks effects. You know, those reddish blobs that slowly move to make a sillhouette of something?
You can actually see them really easily. In fact, if you did it right now, it would work, since the computer projects enough light into your eyes that you pretty much only see the redness.

Interesting... In a good way...

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I NEVER get cool HI's. All i get are the Fireworks effects. You know, those reddish blobs that slowly move to make a sillhouette of something?[/b]

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thats alright man i dont get very realsitic HI either mine are more of blue/green blobs that float across my vision. it still works with unrealistic HI. sounds like you were just a little to sleepy :wink: just keep working on it

I can get up to the vibrations part without any hours of sleep by focussing on my 'third eye' in like 5 minutes.... but i've never made it past them

If this method works then i will be able to have lucid dreams every night.........

thanks for the great info... :banana:

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I can get up to the vibrations part without any hours of sleep by focussing on my 'third eye' in like 5 minutes.... but i've never made it past them[/b]

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yeah man i had that same problem! then i tried breathing like ive just ran a mile... well maybe not that hard but almost. anyway ive been able to make it through every time now. its great for me so hopefully it will work great for everyone else :)

How long do YOU stay up during the wbtb?

Like 5-10 min maybe somtimes longer. im still experimenting with the wbtb part so its different alot. :|

All these lucid terms are new to me. However I have been having lucid dreams with dream control since I was 4 years. If my understanding is correct of WILD it's making yourself have a lucid dream while you are still awake, which apprently is what I have been doing since probably 10 years old. I do this almost every night! My technique is extremely time consuming, but has almost always worked for me. I lay in bed on my back in as confortable position as possible. I pick my topic/adventure or continue from where I left off the previous night. On new topic/adventures is where it takes the most time. The reason is I build my world down to the details. For example I started a new one last week in a cabin in the woods. I didn't just picture a cabin. I built the cabin from the frame up, including how the timbers were joined together. And that continues with the things in the cabin. All this is done while still awake laying in bed.

It usually takes me 1-3hours to fall asleep every night. Needless to say this affects my sleep and my life, thank god I don't have to get up early for work! I think because everything in my world is so detailed and controlled by me before the dream, it makes it easier to have so much control during the dream. I would compare my dreaming to tivo and video editing tools. There are different levels of dream control depending on what I am dreaming. I either use my control to prevent things from getting off track or out of hand or in less control dreams if it goes in the wrong direction I pause, rewind, change things, and then hit play again.

I don't know if it's just me or the lucid dreaming, but I have always been hard to wake up. Over the past 34 years of my life I have noticed a pattern that leans towards the lucid dreaming. If I stay up until I am exhausted and don't dream I usually am easier to eake up. I will even wake up several times throughout the night. If I am in a lucid dream I sometimes hear the reality (Alarm clock, girlfriend, etc..) but I don't want to leave. I think becuase I have done it so long I have gotten used to ignoring reality it's second nature and hence I have become a person really hard to wake up.

Well that's my 2 cents

yea after like 30-35 mins i felt my heart rate rise then i strengthened my breathing then after a min. or so i started to see an HI of my room so but i thought i actually made it to a dream so i did a reality check..failed....

okay, so, first comes the vibrations (increase in heart rate), then the HIs? wat comes next?

well it usually goes HI then vibrations then dream, but your reality check failed... so either you need a more effecient reality check, or You were'nt completely in the dream yet. Give it a little time after the vibrations to let the dream completely settle in.

Sounds like you were really close though! keep at it :)

Every time I try to WILD I fall asleep, probably because I don't get out of bed. Tonight I will try it and actually get out of bed, get a small drink of water or something. Sometimes when I am falling asleep, I listen to my iPod, I realise I am very, very tried and it's about time to fall asleep, so I turn off my iPod, but it doesn't turn off? So I keep trying them realise I was in a dream sort of state, then jolt back to normal life and turn it off and go to sleep.

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I pick my topic/adventure or continue from where I left off the previous night. On new topic/adventures is where it takes the most time. The reason is I build my world down to the details. For example I started a new one last week in a cabin in the woods. I didn't just picture a cabin. I built the cabin from the frame up, including how the timbers were joined together. And that continues with the things in the cabin. All this is done while still awake laying in bed.

It usually takes me 1-3hours to fall asleep every night. Needless to say this affects my sleep and my life, thank god I don't have to get up early for work! [/b]

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This is what I do! Are you by any chance a Visual person? VAK test post here

Just wondering - does it take 1-3 hours to fall asleep because you are trying to WILD?
Do you go lucid from within a normal dream (DILD)?

Perhaps if you want better sleep, but still want to LD you could find ways to relax before trying to sleep, then set your alarm for 5am or something and WILD form there. Already being relaxed should make the WILD quicker.

Thanks alot! I'll give it a go with my nap today. Does this method support naps?

ive never really tried it with naps but i suppose it could work

good luck man :)

I have been having lucid dreams for over a year now, but all of them have been DILD. Recently iv tried a couple times to WILD ... but failed and fell asleep. It seems impossible for me at this point to induce SP, but il try this technique tonight. Could anyone explain the "Vibrations" in more detail? When you have these "vibrations" are you still conscious of your real surroundings? or have you accepted your dream surroundings at this point?

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dont worry man i dont get sp either! here i thought i was the only one. this method does not require you to have sp.

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Could anyone explain the "Vibrations" in more detail? When you have these "vibrations" are you still conscious of your real surroundings? or have you accepted your dream surroundings at this point?[/b]

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well yes and no. for me the vibrations are like the middle point. I cant see any visuals yet but im not really that much aware of any of my surroundings excepts for the fact that i am laying in bed, and even that is hazy sometimes. Vibrations for me are like the transfer over you might hear noises you might feel like you're falling off of your bed. You might hear that sound of wind rushing past your ears. But most always you will have increased heart rate.