Thread: DEILD - Dream Exit Initiated Lucid Dream

SP Can be pretty scary, well actually not pretty scary, very scary.
I don't mean to put that into your head, however if you tackle SP head on the fear should diminish.

Great idea! I actually saw your previous DEILD post, but I really want to try this one. I have great recall (even if I do say so myself xD) but I never remember waking up from dreams until recently. Now that I think about it, I remember for years waking up from an awesome dream then thinking about it so much that as I was lying there I would go back into the dream! It was so much fun but of course back then I didn't know what lucid was although I had had a few. I might try this tonight along with WILDing. E.g. set alarm for WILD and if I fail hopefully I can try a DEILD! And then I really want to try the basic task for the month (walking through fire)

Hey everybody. Just a quick affirmation: this technique definitely works. I used it this morning. I became lucid in a dream after about 8-9 hrs sleep. It was fairly long and quite vivid. As the dream began to fade, i recalled the DEILD method, and didn't move or open my eyes as i felt myself waking. A false awakening ensued, which i discovered was false by doing the nose plug reality test. I jumped out of the window of the apartment i was sleeping in, played in traffic, and was a general nuissance in my dream world. God i love to lucid dream, and thanks for the new tech Klace.

The last time I jumped out my window it turned out I wasn't dreaming.. DOH!

Awesome technique, Klace, I have done this one several times myself (many unintentionally) and it really is quite reliable. Has given me the most LDs to date.

One time I woke up around 8:00 to my mother yelling at me, and I think I did move a bit and open my eyes, but as soon as I closed them I was seeing graphic hallucinations and was in a dream in seconds (no SP). It was pretty awesome.

One question: since this method is somewhat akin to WILD, is the end result LD as clear and vivid as most WILDs?

I'm having a bit of trouble waking up after dreams. I have really good recall, vivid and usually between 3-5 dreams remembered a night. The problem is that I do wake up, I just are not aware of it? Like I know I wake up because I'll look at my clock or something and realise I have many more hours sleep... but I do it so sleepily that my mind doesn't really think.

It seems like if you are able to follow all of the instructions in this tutorial except you do NOT have recall, then this would be an excellent time to try the FILD technique.

Talkinghead you are correct, all though you should not just back away from this and go to something easier simply because you are not good at recall.
That is one of the most necessary things for lucid dreaming so you must put effort forward to have better recall if you wish to succeed in lucid dreaming almost in general.

ok in order to do this do u have to wake up from an ld or will a regular dream work

Either, it is just a little harder to catch the waking point from a regular dream.

Does anyone have any tips on how to keep the eyes closed after waking up from a dream?

I finally got the brain bullet software to download, REALLY excited. I had a quick question on that. Am I not suppose to be able to read the text at ALL or can i read the first 2 or 3 words but not the whole text?

Originally Posted by DCK7

Does anyone have any tips on how to keep the eyes closed after waking up from a dream?

Suggest it to yourself before going to sleep. If you do this strong enough (meaning - to your subconscious), then it'll be no problem.

I find that tactile imaging(you feel the stuff you're visualizing) instead of just visualization gives a far better result.

The point of BB is to get the information past your conscious mind and to your subconscious, so you shouldn't be paying attention to it with your conscious mind, thus not reading the words, at all, since only your conscious mind reads - your subC has photographic memory (over-simplification, but gets the point over, i believe)

When I did this technique last night, I had a lucid dream but did not go experience SP. Does this mean that this technique was not what triggered the lucid dream?

Originally Posted by DCK7

When I did this technique last night, I had a lucid dream but did not go experience SP. Does this mean that this technique was not what triggered the lucid dream?

Difficult to say since many things could've influenced it, but the probability is high. Or it could just be that your SP experience is very weak when compared to others'. I don't get very paralyzed, but have this electric vibe go through my body with an intense heat building up inside of me. Did you have a DILD?

Keep doing the technique and see if you get more lucids.

When I do a WILD I have the same experiences as you just described. Because I did not feel this last night, I'm guessing it was not DIELD that put me into a lucid dream. Anyways, I will try this for a couple more days and see if it works.

Everyone is different, as long as you entered a lucid dream right from the exit of a previous dream, it was a DEILD. I go through it sometimes without sleep paralysis too, but not that often.

I think i misunderstood you. If you mean that you didn't experience sp after waking from a dream and going back into one (DEILD), then for me that is quite normal. Usually i just start up the tactile imaging and am in my new lucid dream in about 10-20 seconds in the situation that i was imagining. Weirdly, the thing i like to visualize is rubbing a table with my hands so that i can really feel the texture of it.

Originally Posted by anomanderis

I think i misunderstood you. If you mean that you didn't experience sp after waking from a dream and going back into one (DEILD), then for me that is quite normal. Usually i just start up the tactile imaging and am in my new lucid dream in about 10-20 seconds in the situation that i was imagining. Weirdly, the thing i like to visualize is rubbing a table with my hands so that i can really feel the texture of it.

If you visualize the table and your rubbing it, do you end up by the table in the new dream? Or do you end up completely somewhere else?

Originally Posted by DCK7

If you visualize the table and your rubbing it, do you end up by the table in the new dream? Or do you end up completely somewhere else?

Yes, the first time i did this, i imagined rubbing my hands against the table in our living room. The image started getting clearer and clearer until i could not only feel, but actually see, as if it was real, my hands rubbing the table. Then my living room came into being around me. Done this a couple of times, but also one time when i found myself in darkness i imagined that i was walking in a dark tunnel and i knew that just beyond the turn that i was going to enter, there will be a stairway leading into light. And there was.
In dreams, reality is what you make of it. Though it is also so with our physical world, dream-reality is much easier to manipulate.

Originally Posted by Aquanina

Ah...I've mastered this technique for years.

I refer to it as marathon lucid dreaming...because I just keep going through the stages of sleep paralysis, HI, lucid dream over and over again. I used to have about 20 lucid dreams when I would nap this way. However, I've discovered better methods that allow me to extend my lucid dreams to last as long as I want...so I usually only have to re-enter 2 or 3 times now.

The only downfall I've found about this...is that...I typically only remember the last several LDs that I had and the first few are lost.

So...there have been times when I have had such amazing LD that I have chosen not to re-enter...because I wanted to remember it and write it down.

edit: oh, and one thing you need to warn people about...is that FAs (false awakenings) are extremely common when using this method...so always be prepared...I myself never have any problem distinguishing an false and a real awakening but I know alot of people do

How, exactly, can you have "marathon dreaming" if you wake up after lucid dreaming?

I'm not sure I completely understand your question.
But after you wake up from a lucid dream it is possible to "chain" them from staying completely still. Now this is much easier after a lucid dream than a normal dream because you catch the waking point and a lucid dream just usually fades out. So to answer your question, after a lucid dream you can re-enter another, chaining many together, creating a "marathon"

So, after you end your lucid dream, it fades out, and do you just lie there and wait for SP, and then enter another LD?

Exactly.
Sometimes there is no SP, but you enter an LD nearly moments after the previous one ends if you do it correctly.