Smarties!

Yep, that's right: SMARTIES

As many of you probably know, in certain psychiatric cases, some people are not suffering from psychological conditions, but merely think they are.
So, some doctors give them 'medication' that will help the 'conditions of their abnormality cease'; it could be any kind of false illness a patient believes he/she is having...or suffering from.

Now...apply this to lucid dreaming.

I've been around this site for a while...longer than my joined date states.
I have seen COUNTLESS threads created on some pretty weird herbs to induce lucid dreaming as well as normal herbs...
Now...i bet some of these lucid dreaming 'herbs' don't work worth shit, it is just the power of suggestion. We think we are helping out neurological functioning by pumping in pills...

You cannot try this to yourself because you will know that you are giving yourself false pills, but hear me out:

Try this with a friend, give him a false kind of pill, SOMETHING HARMLESS, such as allergy medication, or just go to the drug store and get something to releive itchy toenails, but make sure it is harmless.
Now, give it to them and tell them that it will increase REM or something, and see the effects.

The power of suggestion is a bigger power than we give it credit for, believe me.

If you need me to expand, please, ask!
Cheers!

Yep. Thats part of what my handle is all about ;)

This wouldn't always work I guess. I mean, I've heard lots of people saying 'I tried Melatonin and it didn't do anything to me'.
If it was that reliable... well... that would not happen

A good point though ;)

good job, go an spoil it for me! :? :P :roll:

yea.... I wouldnt eat any pills my friends gave to me...
try childrens tylonol or...... just a cough drop maybe you can buy some actual "sugar pills" at a pharmacy or maybe even a joke shop.... havent checked...

Word up, Lowercase Society, you ain't lying! The power of suggestion works on me constantly!

Once someone merely mentioned LD to me and I had one that night! But it wouldn't work a 2nd time. :? Oh well.

But the placebo effect is very strong. You should sell smarties to n00bies and tell them they're LD inducers. :lol:

The forum would make a fortune!

you would have to make the sugar pills, thats the only way you would be able to actually legally, sell them, and you cant sell em for alot, maybe, 1 $ per 10?

That's what I meant, smarties are candy. But I swear, I would NEVER take advantage of n00bies in such a way............often. ;)

Btw Lord South, I like your sig quote. :)

buahahahaahaha, wouldnt it be great if i sold my friends smarties that i claimed have been dipped in acid and they began to trip really hard, hahahaha, makes sense though. i should try it

Reminds me of that Adam Sandler cd, where his friend thuoght he was high on weed, but it was really just pencil shavings.

Hehe, I love that one! :lol:

yeah, adam sandler rox! ever heard of bill hicks? he rox 2

sig quote? you mean the "life is dangerious" thing? or the up-shut, in the corner there?

i'd like to say i tried this on a girl last night. i told her that i had pills that would give her super long, super vivid dreams. my plan was foiled when she recognized the pill...

next time i won't use pez... or at least i will leave the kermit the frog dispenser at home.

lol adidas...

Or just scrape off the "P" and call em "EZ" tablets for "Easy LD's"

Hehe, I'm a dork! :P

:idea: :idea: :idea:
Patent # 155547887874415688
Lucid dreaming inhibitor
Ingrediants:
Valrian root extract, Melotonin, Mugwort, Vitamin B-6,Focus Factor supplemnets, Chamomile, Calea Zacatechichi
This product has not approved by the food and drug adminstration

:?: Häh?! A lucid dreaming inhibitor??

I don't get it. But I have a headache right now so my brain may be temporarily damaged........

.....more than usual........ :P

Ophelia said

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But the placebo effect is very strong[/b]

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YES... beware of my dark side!
MWHAHAHAHAHAHARRR!!

Oooooooo, hit me with your worst, Placebo!!! :ohyahbaby:

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Originally posted by adidas
i'd like to say i tried this on a girl last night. i told her that i had pills that would give her super long, super vivid dreams. my plan was foiled when she recognized the pill...

next time i won't use pez... or at least i will leave the kermit the frog dispenser at home.

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hahahaha....

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Originally posted by OpheliaBlue
:?: Häh?! A lucid dreaming inhibitor??

I don't get it. But I have a headache right now so my brain may be temporarily damaged........

.....more than usual........ :P

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I think you need to change your avatar. I was too busy looking at it and those pictures to post correctly.
I meant to say inhancer > quite the opposite of inhibitor :oops:


Patent # 155547887874415688
Lucid dreaming inhancer
Ingrediants:
Valrian root extract, Melotonin, Mugwort, Vitamin B-6,Focus Factor supplemnets, Chamomile, Calea Zacatechichi
This product has not approved by the food and drug adminstration
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I think it would be better as an INHIBITOR

Since it's called an inhibitor, it would be very ironic that it includes all the substances we use to induce dreams. The placebo effect would supposedly inhibit the user's dreams.

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Originally posted by OpheliaBlue
Word up, Lowercase Society, you ain't lying! The power of suggestion works on me constantly!

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hehe...thanks...

don't mind me asking, but are you pretty damn gullable? I mean women tend to believe more in fantasy than men..but i can't say the same for myself, i swear i am like 40% female....

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Originally posted by OpheliaBlue
Oooooooo, hit me with your worst, Placebo!!! :ohyahbaby:

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How did I miss this post a week ago :!: :?: :!:
An outright invitation by Ophelia... And I MISSED it ... whats ..wr.on.g.. w.t.h .. me....

lol placebo :lol:

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Originally posted by Lowercase Society
don't mind me asking, but are you pretty damn gullable? I mean women tend to believe more in fantasy than men..but i can't say the same for myself, i swear i am like 40% female....

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Well, I wouldn't say that I'm damn gullable. But, yeah, the power of suggestion works on me quite well. Like the example I gave about the LD. I don't know how gullable I would be with placebo drugs, though it's quite possible I would be!

Ophelia, run head first into a wall and you will have amazing dreams while you're passed out.

Death-Wuad, be nice...

Anyway, I like your new avatar! What happened to mine sweep?

I was just joking ophelia :rolleyes:

I decided to keep it for safe keeping, but I think I'll put the minesweeper one on just because I'm getting tired of shockwave.

Ooooooooooooh, Death-Wuad, that's the avatar I love. I could just watch and watch and watch and wa-.........

.......Ophelia gets hypnotized by Death-Wuad's avatar which was sending subliminal messages for her to run head first into a wall.......

*BAM!!!!!!!!!*

"Aa-aowww......."

Hehehehehe...
That's a good idea, I should put some subliminal messages in my avatars :lol:

sorry to burst your bubble, but the (fcc?) outlawed the use of subliminal messages in comercial adds a long time ago... but an extensive study was done that proved that subliminal messages dont work

(no link availible, google it)

Yes I'm very aware of that, it was mentioned on another thread about subliminal messages

*cough* AHEM...


I think this whole 'Smarties' idea could be used in all these 'LUCID DREAMING DEVICES'...that help you attain lucididty.

I am not saying they do not work, but merely suggesting that they use the same power of suggestion, while scamming people out of hundreds of dollars!

...uhuh?

no, i dont think that *anyone* here wanted to sell them for the purpose of making money...

.10 usd a pill isnt that expensive,

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Originally posted by lord soth
no, i dont think that *anyone* here wanted to sell them for the purpose of making money...

.10 usd a pill isnt that expensive,

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Your right, man...i'm not denying that taking supplements such as B-6 work, but perhaps they don't work as well as the results show, as the power of suggestion plays a big part in your mind, as you have to meet up to the demand charactaristics of the supplement you are partaking of.

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no, i dont think that *anyone* here wanted to sell them for the purpose of making money...

.10 usd a pill isnt that expensive,

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Your right, man...i'm not denying that taking supplements such as B-6 work, but perhaps they don't work as well as the results show, as the power of suggestion plays a big part in your mind, as you have to meet up to the demand charactaristics of the supplement you are partaking of.[/b]

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My name, once again, says it all :D

I haven't found any pill to improve my dreams or lucidity. Even melatonin (in my case). Not that they don't exist, but they don't seem to work on me.
It does make me wonder about the nature of them.

I'm a bodybuilder and am currently taking a supplement called "ZMA nighttime fuel". The very first day I took it I started having dreams (or atleast remembering them). Everynight I take it (as required), so I did research on the active ingredient called Vitamin-B6., turns out it stimulates dreams. I had no power of suggestion over me, I wasn't even looking to have dreams (I never have/can't remember them). Fact of the matter is, maybe the stuff works.

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Originally posted by unholy
I'm a bodybuilder and am currently taking a supplement called \"ZMA nighttime fuel\". The very first day I took it I started having dreams (or atleast remembering them). Everynight I take it (as required), so I did research on the active ingredient called Vitamin-B6., turns out it stimulates dreams. I had no power of suggestion over me, I wasn't even looking to have dreams (I never have/can't remember them). Fact of the matter is, maybe the stuff works.

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Thanks for that unholy - we can finally put that one to rest! :D
Were there any other ingredients that may have interfered?

Nah, no other ingredients, although there are others in the ZMA nighttime fuel, I checked it out. There is like 180mg of vitamin B6 in it by the way.

Yeah i agree, the placebo effect is very powerful (and yes, today a recived my order of a HUGE bag of dream herb through the post). But even if it is just the power of suggestion, whatever works right?

There should be some control experiments carried out. For example one night give someone a herb or pill the is apperently supposed to induce lucid dreams, the other night give them something that tastes the same but had no effect. The person taking them is not told which one is which and the results of their dreams is compared to what drug they were taking.

You would still have the question of whether the 'dream pill' has a delayed effect or not. Eg. it might take a day to affect your dreams ?
And once again, every person reacts slightly different to these things :|

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Originally posted by killfrenzy
...whatever works right?

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Good point. Whatever works.