Thread: Adam's Guide to Attaining Lucidity

Update: Another 3 LDs last night.

couldn't you put the new technique up for some of us to test as well? please!! sorry if i seem impatient but im getting fed up with my dry spell and im not having much luck with any technique. anyway looking forward to the update.

Bushido

Your new technique seems to be working well for you, im excited to see the finished product!

I am writing now - I guess I could just post it up here. Will be dsone later today

Okay - this is version 2 of my technique. Any questions please ask

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The Theory

Right, this is an adaptation of the above technique, which people might still have some joy with, hence still leaving it there but I found my lucid dreams were not frequent enough and still relied on me staying still, and relying on an element of DILD too much, which whilst it is good for frequent lucid dreamers, it does not give you that guarantee that you will have a lucid dream.

This is not rocket science, neither is it complicated. In fact it is very simple, and I am pretty sure you all will think it’s nothing new – But it works for me! So far 100% success rate over the 3 nights I tried it! So if it can help you, and bring back the confidence, get you out of a dry spell, or give you your first lucid dream then great!!!

I have trialled this new, improved technique for 3 days now, noticing an increase in the frequency of lucid dreams, vividness of normal dreams and almost an LD at will attitude has been installed, which is great for lucid dreaming. If you can get this positive ‘can do’ attitude that’s almost 50% of the job done!

My new technique, takes elements from the WILD technique, so includes WBTB and also includes some MILD/DEILD and DILD. I will stress that I have adapted this for me, and works with my body clock, so you may need to change slightly for yourself, I will try help here if you want to discuss tailoring for your needs. But based on the key points below, you should be able to achieve what I have.

I am of the belief that the quicker you slip back into a dream from waking the more chance you will have of inducing a lucid dream. With the WILD technique you are advised to stay up for around 30 minutes, which varies depending on the guide. WBTB typically is around the same time, if not longer sometimes up to an hour. As for DEILD you don’t really need to wake and get out of bed, you just try fall back to sleep as soon as you notice you are awake. MILD can be done at any point when awake, either before going to sleep or as part of a WBTB/WILD. And DILD is just naturally inducing lucid dreaming whilst sleeping. My technique includes all of these and squished into one full technique, which is why I think I have had so much success. Because if the WILD part fails, you can be pretty sure the DILD will kick in. With the help from MILD. (Damn this is getting complicated now, back to simple stuff).

It is an easy technique, you don’t have to be an LD master, good at WILDs or even attempted lucid dreaming before, you just need to have faith, and confidence and I am sure good things will happen. I am not claiming to have reinvented the wheel, more turned the wheel from round to spherical. I have added a new dynamic approach to existing techniques.

Anyway, enough of my talk lets move onto the good stuff!

The Technique
The important stuff: Okay I ask you have a regular sleep pattern getting plenty of sleep, and by plenty I mean between 7 and 8 hours a night. I will try best to explain the steps I take each night when trying this out! Also any bad attitude towards lucid dreaming, or lack of confidence, or an “I can’t” attitude stops at the door, now take off your shoes, and enter with a smile and know you ARE going to lucid dream, here goes!

I get to bed between 10:30pm and 11pm. This gives me around 5 and half hours sleep. I set my alarm for 4:30 am. I don’t do anything when going to sleep, no MILD or anything. I don’t really even think about lucid dreaming, except for the fact that I know, I will be lucid dreaming in no time. I just go to bed to sleep. I leave my PC running too.

Points to consider: Your longest REM period is in the morning, after about 5-6 hours sleep; this is where you have your most success. I get up just after 5 hours sleep, but don’t get up any sooner than that.

Get up at 4:30 when the alarm goes off, put on my large smile because I know in less than 30 minutes I will be lucid dreaming, jump onto dream views, read a couple of posts, send the odd sleepy PM, and spend about 5/10 minutes on there MAX. I then take a toilet break get some water and go back to the pc and look at and think about my dream scene (see dream scenes below) and get into bed. Important I am not up for more than 15 minutes!!! I try keep this to 10 though where possible. I like to make sure my eyes are exposed to the light too, enough to wake me.

Points to consider: You need to be awake, but not so much so that you cannot get back to sleep easily. You need to find the right balance which works for you. You might not get it right first time, so I would say take 5/7 minutes first off, and then if this doesn’t work extend or reduce this time that you are awake.

There is not set way for you to lye when going back to sleep, just however you are comfortable, I sleep almost like the recovery position, because that for me is the most comfortable way to sleep.

Points to consider: You might be too awake here, but don’t worry about it. You will be asleep sooner than you think. Just make sure you are comfortable, the room is dark, and you are feeling happy and confident, about your successful lucid dreams!

This is the tricky part. Having been up and about you need to fall back to sleep as soon as you can. Your body will be tired and ready to rest some more, and since you have only been up for a few minutes your mind will be active enough and your body tired. The exposure to bright light and DV forum should impose enough thoughts in your head to get you going along with the thoughts of your dream scene.

What I try here is a MILD/WILD combo. I keep my eyes shut, my body still, and think about dream scenarios and my dream scene, I let my mind work on the scenery on its own, like it would in a lucid dream but I take control of where I go if that makes sense. So I almost ‘pretend’ I am lucid really. Thinking to myself “when I am sleeping, I will know it and I will be doing this” Think about the dream you want to be having, because when we become lucid to begin with our mind puts us where it wants us to be, whether that is in a forest, city, or anywhere. Of course when we are lucid we can change this.

What you need to do now is almost let your dream become more real and this is where the WILD part comes in – you need to get into the transitional period from pretending you are dreaming to actually dreaming. Some people may experience hypnotic images or sounds, some people may experience sleep paralysis, this is normal, but won’t always happen, at least didn’t always for me. Sometimes I would just wake up in the dream being lucid right away! Other times I would fall to sleep, then become lucid during the dream after remembering I had only just gone back to sleep so must be dreaming now.

It is all about getting the messages in your brain whilst you are awake enough to do so, but sleepy enough to get to sleep quick enough to remember them.

Remember be confident you are going to LD, keep repeating to yourself in your head that you will remember you are dreaming, and that you just went back to bed – you will get into the dream. Remembering your scene you selected, and whether you get right into a dream from going to bed (WILD). Or you realise shortly after falling back to sleep that you must be dreaming because you just went back to sleep (DEILD/DILD) you will have success. I think that’s why this works so well for me, because if my WILD attempt fails, I can rely on my subconscious to remember that I need to realise I am dreaming.

That’s pretty much it, simple eh? Nothing new, no rocked science involved. But so far the results personally for me speak for them self! I was rubbish at wild, and my DEILD/DILDs were not frequent enough for me. Maybe it is just the reaffirmation of lucid dreaming and the confidence that I will lucid dream which is making them happen so often? I don’t know, all I know is this works great for me, so hope it does for you too!

Key points to remember:

-Positive attitude! This IS going to work for you!
-Regular sleep pattern
-Don’t stay up too long!
-Don’t get up too early, aim for 5 and a half to 6 hours sleep before waking.
-Enjoy you lucid dreams!

Dream Scenes:

This is just another easy way to implant thoughts into your head about sceneries and creating this image for you to pretend to lucid dream. It helps embed this lucid message in your subconscious – You can create your own dream scenes to use, but here are a couple of mine.

Beach: http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/7183/beachzz1.jpg

City: http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/166/cityua1.jpg

Park: http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/6370/parkma3.jpg

Forest: http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/8821/forestcb2.jpg

Okay, so this is the end...

Good luck and I hope this works for you. You might not slip right into the dream you were thinking about before you sleep, but this method has been perfect for me and am very happy with the results.

Happy to answer any questions you might have.

Adam.

Right, over the next week I'm going to be doing this. I'll report back my results.

Thanks good luck!

Very interesting

I'd like to try this but I can't do the alarm thing because it would disturb other people who are sleeping ( I'm not alone in the house ) do you have any ideas or suggestions ?

Do you have a mobile phone? You could set the alarm on that and keep it under your pillow?

Yes, thanks I forgot I could use it for this

I'll try your technique probably in the middle of september and reply back with my results

Originally Posted by Oneironaught

True, and that's never a bad thing.

That dude in the picture looks to be in some serious pain <--- (added to show that I still love you )

lol dude I believe Pwned is the right word lol ^^

This technique looks really good! This looks like one that will work for me finally woo!! Thanks for the are you dreaming pics those will really help me alot!

I like it, i will be trying this tonight Adam, my sleeping pattern is becoming more constant with me having to get up earlier since college starts on monday, my positive attitude is also very dominant now so i can see this working successfully tonight, i will let you know the results of my attempt in the morning This is a great looking technique though mate!

Ok So I tried multiple times DEILD method for now but I always have the same problem ;

I wake up after every dream. I don't move and then I fall back asleep pretty quickly without getting lucid .

great i'll get practicing. One question; you said this technique gave you multiple lucids in one night so do i mix this with the previous method by staying still when i wake up from my first induced LD?

THanks for the Tech.

Originally Posted by The Question

This technique looks really good! This looks like one that will work for me finally woo!! Thanks for the are you dreaming pics those will really help me alot!

No problems, good luck and let me know how it goes

Originally Posted by Lucid Seeker

I like it, i will be trying this tonight Adam, my sleeping pattern is becoming more constant with me having to get up earlier since college starts on monday, my positive attitude is also very dominant now so i can see this working successfully tonight, i will let you know the results of my attempt in the morning This is a great looking technique though mate!

Good luck mate

Originally Posted by temP0ral

Ok So I tried multiple times DEILD method for now but I always have the same problem ;

I wake up after every dream. I don't move and then I fall back asleep pretty quickly without getting lucid .

Try the one just above, it is an adaptation on the first technique. I cannot edit the first post though. If you have any questions please ask

Originally Posted by Bushido

great i'll get practicing. One question; you said this technique gave you multiple lucids in one night so do i mix this with the previous method by staying still when i wake up from my first induced LD?

THanks for the Tech.

No, ignore the previous one, this one requires to you wake up get out of bed. I think the multiple lucid dreams were partly due to FAs and when ever I woke up, I just knew right away in the next dream it was a dream. The message had been implanted to just question everything, so all my dreams, that I remember at least were lucid ones.

Have anyone tried this? I have edited the top page to include the new technique - Hey and if you don't become lucid after 1 week you get your money back

Tried it once, got really far with HI but I couldn't get into SP. I'm definitely trying it again though. Thanks Adam.

i was a little too out of it last night to remember to stay awake for a few minutes.. will try again tonight and report back tomorrow...

Originally Posted by Truffles

Tried it once, got really far with HI but I couldn't get into SP. I'm definitely trying it again though. Thanks Adam.

Awesome! Nice work, let me know if you get any further

Originally Posted by tonythephatone

i was a little too out of it last night to remember to stay awake for a few minutes.. will try again tonight and report back tomorrow...

Cool - let me know how you get on. After a few days off I will be trying again tonight for the 4th time

Okay I will be trying this tonight.

yea Im definately trying tonight, Im so tired, Ill definatley do this perfectly tonight, and I've had this before, but I always go into sleep paralysis unfortunately, so I'll see what I can do.

Well I'll try it for you Adam. I never did a complete MILD, but now I have a computer which makes close to no sound, so I don't wake the entire house

didnt catch a lucid... but i did have a vivid freaking dream.. unfortunately, 2 seconds after i woke up to write it down my mom called me and started asking a ton of questions and i lost it will continue trying...