DILD- Why is it the Underdog?

When Dream Induced Lucid Dreaming was first discovered as a way to actually actively participate in the dream world via lucid dreaming, I think that people looked at it as "hard" and "impossible to master" so they came up with more induction techniques to help people not so inclined to work with DILDs. This gave birth to MILD and WILD first off, and not too soon after to WBTB. Now, it seems like every week there is a new post about someone having their own master technique and wanting to share it with the world. I'm not saying some of these don't have merit (Clarity's WILD method is probably one of the more famous on this forum; I dig, I dig :) ), but it seems as if the granddaddy of them all has been forgotten. Every newbie comes in with this "I wanna dream!" attitude and every experienced person who welcomes them points them straight to WILD and WBTB. What about NOT waking up and losing sleep in the middle of the night? What about NOT trying to lay perfectly still for over an hour and ending up just falling asleep? What about DILDs, baby?

RCs are kind of background inducing techniques. I mean, you RC during the day, but there's not much else.
So people come up with other things to do alongside RCs, to complement them. Just doing RCs during the day... gets boring. We want some more techniques to try.

WILD also satisfies our love of instant gratification if it succeeds.

I still depend on DILD because nothing else has worked for me X.x

Um, a DILD isn't a technique, it's a type of lucid dream.

DILD = Dream Induced Lucid Dream
WILD = Wake Induced Lucid Dream

To achieve a DILD you can use the MILD technique: Mnemoncially Induced Lucid Dreaming.
To achieve a WILD you can use the Hypnagogic Imagery technique.

So, aye, the only underdog is strict knowledge of terminology. But then again, not everyone has read LaBerge's EtWoLD.

Well pardon my problem I read it like two years ago lol

But I see your point and I must admit it's a good one!

Yeah people want to experiment with techniques to increase frequency of LDs. Given my current life schedule however, I am personally content with going for DILDs only. :)

The other problem you have with DILD for me is it is not a guaranteed way to induce lucid dreams - and by far one of the most random ways to lucid dream.

But using an induction technique as it says you can induce a lucid dream easier.

Using a "technique" can often lead to a DILD, even when they "fail". DILD is often more of a random, accidental happening than something you'd generally aim for. But things like RCs, recognising dream signs and having the intention to lucid dream can increase your odds of a DILD.

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Originally Posted by Adam

The other problem you have with DILD for me is it is not a guaranteed way to induce lucid dreams - and by far one of the most random ways to lucid dream.

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DILDs "by themselves" aren't guaranteed because that entails only reality checking.
But DILDs through the MILD technique can indeed be "guaranteed" since you're using your own will power. With the MILD technique one can surely have lucid dreams every night, even in every dream, before which he/she uses the technique of intention. It just requires a very trained and strong will power.

I'll let you know when I get there :)

DILD is the underdog because it's more or less luck. WILD is infinitely more reliable, the problem is mastering it.

Once you've gotten into the correct routine and mindset, it's actually hard to stop having DILDs! I've had many satisfying DILDs. It always surprises me when I become lucid (compared to DEILDs). I'll say something like "Oh! How could I have not noticed!" or "I can't believe this life-like scenario is a dream!" It feels wonderful to be so conniving that you trick your own mind.

The main problem lies with reliability. DILDs can have varying levels of lucidity, and you can't really predict when they'll happen.

WILDs, on the other hand, claim to have higher lucidity, and are always premeditated. The experience appeals to many newbs, I think.

Well once I increase my Dream Recall and maybe having a couple DILDs I'll move on to WILD... It just seems as though the necessary skills to have a DILD are the starting point for everything else and if you don't have those skills you will get nowhere with everything else...

Maybe that's just me though!:)

Hey there,

As mentioned already, DILD is not a technique, its a kind of Lucid Dream, and its probably the far most common type of lucid dream there is, so its definately not an underdog.

That said, I agree with the posters that said that most people will attempt techniques which lead to other types of lucid dreams (mostly WILDS) because they feel they have more direct control over it, and because the results are often more direct and faster. (but unfortunately seldomly as consistent. Personally, I've found that for me all these other techniques have a limited shelf live. They work great at the onset, but quickly lose effectiveness after a few weeks, and seem unable to maintain a consistent and regular lucidity level).

That said, it is quite possible to find ways of getting consistant and more or less planned DILDS, and I think you'll find that the majority of regular lucid dreamers are people who have DILDs, rather then WILDS. The problem is that these methods usually require a lot of patience and often small lifestyle changes as well. People want fast results, and then methods needed to consistently induce DILDs fall well outside of that :)

Just my 2 dreamcents,

-Redrivertears-

The only LDs I've been able to have, have been DILDs.
I've tried Adams technique, WBTB, Jeffs technique,
and a few others. I I try Jeffs technique pretty much
every night, I just can't seem to do it.

Like everyone else has said, DILD is random.
I'm having trouble doing reality checks, which
makes it less likely for me, but I do think a lot
about LDing before bed.