Awesome. The outline of the week thing is really going to help me.
btw: great analogy. :cheeky:
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Awesome. The outline of the week thing is really going to help me.
btw: great analogy. :cheeky:
Superb tutorial, as always. I like how you refrain from including many personalized examples "WILD should feel like this, and if it doesn't then do this." Many other techniques are so specific that they only work well for the author! This isn't one of those techniques.
The schedule you gave is interesting enough. Though I doubt it's to be followed to a T. This schedule is probably meant for people to find what technique they are best at...
Nice layout, BillyBob. You allow for the reader to find his own groove while laying out the key elements and concepts in a plain manner. Good job.
I almost quoted that guide. That would have been really long :D
Excellent guide! Really great work there, it should be put on the Tutorials page or something! :goodjob2:
Billybob that was a bloody brilliant tutorial , by far the best tutorial finally a tutorial like this one, ive read the others and they just explain the basics but this has meaning and exackly what i wanted answers to !!!! thank you
I've done my very first WBTB today. I stayed up for 15 minutes, doing some RCs, but basically trying to stay awake. When I went back to bed I lay awake for about 2 and a half hours (I know this because my clock beeps once per hour). Horrible.
When I awoke from a dream today, I was so tired that I just couldn't write it into my DJ. Then I fell asleep again and had a dream, but this time I tried to DEILD. Problem was, I DID keep my eyes closed, but I had already moved and turned around and such, so I just lay there still for 10 or 15 minutes till I gave up, and had forgotten the dream. (Also, my house is near a street, and lots of cars drove by, my sister woke up and walked through my room etc. Failure predestined.)
:/
I'll stick to the schedule though! Wish me better luck this night...
Well, since i started my dream journal (about 4, 5 days ago) I've only been able to fully remember around 4 dreams, and most only lasting about 4 - 5 seconds (or i could only remember that much).
Last night was Day 1 of the week schedule that billybob asked us to follow and I have now 6 more Lengthly, Detailed Dreams in my DJ :boogie: . Can't wait for tonight.
:bowdown: Thanks BillyBob. This tutorial kicks Ash!
Thanks Dude!!! This is a bit late, cause I tried your WBTB 2 nights ago...
I got lucid for the first time!
I tried it again last night, but it didn't work for some reason. I plan on giving it another go tonight.
Wow-all I can say is wow. Thanks to you, I've gotten 4 lucid dreams in 4 nights, and I guess I've found "my technique." It's sort of a lazy version of WBTB; I just get up after 5 hours of sleep, shut my alarm clock off, walk around for a few seconds and go back to sleep. I "discovered" it after a failed WBTB attempt-I was tired and didn't feel like doing anything so I just went back to bed.
Then I had a lucid. I figured "Hey, it worked the first time, I'm gonna try it again to make sure I didn't get lucky..." it worked again, and 3 times after it. I'm still going to follow your schedule though, because I don't think Lucid Dreaming isthat easy. :P
The sad part about all of this success is that I can only call my Lucid Dreams "lucid" dreams. What I mean by that, is that my environment is intact, I can control my movements as I would in real life, but it doesn't feel vivid at all. It doesn't seem like a lot of people have described (feels even more real than real life, etc.) at all. I've tried grounding myself by looking at my surroundings, feeling things, etc but another huge problem for me is that whenever I "lucid" dream, the first thing that comes to mind is sex-however that's not what I what I want to do in my dreams; at least until they become more vivid. :P
Anyway, what I wanted to know is do the more vivid dreams come along as you ld more? (also when I ld what I should do to improve clarity) I was also curious as to what other things besides lding more to improve the quality...
Anyway, I've been pestering you guys enough-if you want to ld, this guide is fundamental in being successful/more successful than you already were. ;D
Day 6 of the schedule for me. No luck in the 5 previous nights yet. BUT I'm staying optimistic :)
Great Topic BillyBob!. Puts things nicely in perspective. Sticky this before it gets burried under worthless "help!'" topics.
I tried doing a wbtb and a wild last night. layed in bed at like 10 and couldent fall asleep till 12 i reset my alarm to 5 wrote down about 3-4 dreams went to the bathroom and then went in bed thought about what i was going to do in my wild then i layed on my back and just kept counting my breaths.
i counted my breaths up to about 120 or somthing like that and absolutely nothing happened. i have never gone into sp or had hi or anything like that. the only thing that happened was my back ached a little and i had an itch on my mouth. my thoughts wandered a little and i think i thought about wild twice like you told me not to because i was intentionally trying not to think about it. after 120 i was like its not gonna happen so i just rolled over and couldent go to sleep for another hour. finnally i woke up at about 11:00 and recorded 2 more dreams.
What am i doing wrong? was i just not patient enough? any tips on relaxing?
Thanks for the great tutorial.
Next month I am starting to work extensively on lucid dreaming, and I may try this schedule, while adding a lot of meditation during the day.
On DV and elsewhere, There are many many tutorials, methods, variations, and tips, and it can get very overwhelming. There are so many ways to LD, it's hard to decide what to try.
I think it's important to select just a few methods and stick with them for a long time, instead of jumping from method to method ( or variation to variation ). On the other hand just working on one technique for a long time isn't a very good idea, because this technique could be the wrong one for you, and it will also become boring, tedious, and frustrating.
This type of schedule as described in this tutorial could be the right way to do it, because you both practice several techniques, and you make sure that you practice each one at least twice a week, and repeat that every week. This way you can really practice, gradually improving.
Finally! I got (semi-)lucid on Day 7. Check my DJ =)
Hey thanks very much for your words.... I definitely needed something like that. In fact I printed off your weekly guide and am now using it. Tonight is my wild. Monday when i was going for WBTB i woke up before the alarm and went for a fild. It worked but I got distracted unfortunately... Would you add me as a friend? I need a friend who would help to guide me. Anywho get back to me and thanks again.:D
This worked really well for me and I am planning on starting the weekly schedule tonight. I got a lucid on day one. ( that would be the lucid in my dream journal )
Me Too! Lucid Day 1!! First two proper Lucids ever. :) Talked to you earlier BillyBob but thanks again. Will stay on the schedule tonight.
thanks, really helpful :) just written down a list of 8 or 9 different techniques and this tutorial contributed greatly to that list, thanks v. much :D
SamWise
When I try to WILD it is using this method where you lay on your back and focus on your breathing and counting your breaths, and not thinking of dreams, etc.
I always seem to just end up meditating and staying awake. Any ideas?
first 5 days, no lucid yet, but for the first time I have remembered a dream every night. So, I am going to keep on this schedual.
awesome guide =] i'll definitely use it...
quick question for ya: when you say reality check everytime something strange happens in the physical world that doesn't usually happen...what exactly do you mean??
thanks =]
hey Meehaw this may give you a hand understanding "Reality Checking" (a VERY important basis of Lucid Dreaming!)
http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ead.php?t=4470
they are essentially tests that you perform in order to see if you are dreaming. That link explains it a little more.
and I RECONMEND THESE TWO, TOO!
http://www.dreamviews.com/induction.php
http://www.dreamviews.com/dreamsigns.php
goodluck
hey thanks! =)
but the thing is...you reality check in the real world to make your mind used to reality checking in the dreamworld also...
but in the real world...what strange occurances can happen that would cause you to reality check?? is an example like an object that's placed somewhere which you thought was somewhere else?? because im not exactly sure what constitutes as strange in the real world...if you catch my drift lol
=]
EXCELLENT post. i've always been a Billy Bob fan, even though i've been away from the site for awhile.
i have ADD, and the thing that's difficult is to concentrate (or not concentrate) on something for a few minutes. it's hard enough when i'm TRYING to concentrate, but whenever i do FILD, WILD, i just CAN'T stop the voices in my head! i know it's going to sound like i'm schizophrenic... i'm not. but i do always have music running through my head (ALWAYS, not occasionally) as well as random "clips" of people saying things (things i heard that day, phrases i say often, etc.)... at the SAME TIME. it's rough. i'm on medicine for this but so far nothing has worked.
i'm not saying all this to just talk about myself, but i'm going to give WILD another shot. i think the simplification may have helped me. maybe i can somehow use the voices in my head as a way to concentrate on breathing or something. Billy Bob (or anyone), if you have any additional suggestions, i would LOVE to hear them!
again, fantastic post.
Amazing tutorial! Extremely helpful. In fact, I think the only way it could be any better is if it contained the correct usages of "your" and "you're." ;)
:bowdown: I'll be bookmarking this.