Me and another noob are working together on this lucid dream deal. He got a lucid dream on the third night by "thinking about nothing" before going to bed.
Does this work, or is it coincidence?
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Me and another noob are working together on this lucid dream deal. He got a lucid dream on the third night by "thinking about nothing" before going to bed.
Does this work, or is it coincidence?
Coincidence.
It seemed too suspicious for me. Lucky son of a...
It's damn hard to think of nothing...
Maybe it isn't coincidence, who knows.
Get him to try it again and then post results :)
He didn't tell me anything else. For all I know, he could have taken 10 B6 pills or something... I think it is coincidence. However, I may try it, to be sure.
Your friend is right spot on. Stopping verbal thinking is the single most powerful method I use, almost exclusively to induce lucid dreams for 10 years now.
My god, are you serious?Quote:
Originally Posted by transflux
Have you posted a tutorial?
Lol, a tutorial: "On How Not to Think"
So you stop thinking? Do you do this in unison with WILD or on its own? Do you just stop thinking before bed? What a concept! LDing could be just a few simple (not easy, simple) steps away for me.
lol I never think verbally. I only do when speaking/writing, but it almost merges with what I'm saying... and yet I don't have that many LDs :P
gonna try some hardcore meditation before sleeping; I'll post my results
You think about nothing easily with meditation but whenever I do it weirdly I never remeber my dreams even with a dream journal..
....Thinking about nothing is pretty much the basis of every technique. Concentrating on your breathing, counting down from 100, relaxing, all of these things simply help you achieve it. By not thinking, yet being aware, you let your body fall asleep, yet your mind remains awake, and you slip into SP, where you can easily induce a dream by just picturing a scene and imagining your there... So yah, thinking of nothing has been thought of before. But you guys are on the right track.
-Justin
Hmm.
I meditate to sleep every night of the week (and have done so for the last three or four years). Usually I get to a state of total thoughtlessness and complete clearness of mind.
I've never once noticed a correlation between how many LDs I have and how "thoughtless" I get during the meditation :?
Also, I never once had a random lucid dream from it before I knew what lucid dreaming was.
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However, I've consistently noticed that to reliably induce a DILD you have to "know" on the deepest level of your mind that you are going to get lucid that night.
This knowledge of that fact is far deeper than a simple verbal "I'm going to ld." It gets to the point of your basic principals for reality; its a solid knowledge, like that of knowing your going to wake up the next morning -- unless death comes, its definitely going to happen.
This nonverbal induction of lucid dreams can't be induced by doing some method, but rather it is formed by gaining confidence through many DILD experiences.
I guess you could use hypnosis to get it, but thats already a method ("HILD" I believe).
Different thing work for different people. I myself have never been able to WILD or MILD, but always seem to be able to DILD.
Brief Explanation for N00bs...
Wild is consciously entering the dream state without being unaware at all, Mild is waking at a certain time, and reflecting on the previous dream, and Dild is realizing you're dreaming in a dream.
Funny thing is though, I usually have my lucid dreams when, before I go to bed, I think "i'm going to definatley have a lucid tonight."
While I don't believe that "thinking about nothing" is completely possible, having too many thoughts on your mind sometimes messes up your attempts at DILDs. At least in my experiences. So, as for the B6 pills, never tried any kind of supplement, just got it the good ol hard way.
So... my best advice? Keep a dream journal, have confidence, and don't worry about thinking about nothing... that is one surefire way to discombobulate (made up word!) your brain.
Ah, so MILD is the term for my most frequent LD successes! If you are a verbal thinker, try to imagine visually what you want to dream about. If you're visual, try to imagine the feelings you want, and if you're the kinesthetic type, try to hear the sounds of what you want to dream about as you fall asleep.
I'm a verbal thinker, and it tends to be difficult for me to "shut off". However, I wake up frequently during the night, and at that point it tends to be easy for me to visually slip back into a dream, aware that I'm doing so, so that I can take control once I'm fully in the dream.