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      Dude WTF!! Ive only used this portal for 3 days and I had the most fucked up experience last night, I went through the portal into another fucking reality or something, i dunno cuz I escaped as fast as I could, I was scared shitless. Once I was back I could remember what had happened for a minute but then it just kept fading, now I can't really recall the experience, I just know it was super freakin intense and real, it took awhile for me to calm down after it. I've had more intense experinces, but never without the aid of a powerful hallucinogen. If this happened after 3 days then I am hella excited to see where it could go from here. You are on to something with this thing man, i dunno what it is but I hope I find out soon. Thanks for posting this, it is unbelievably amazing.
      You hit warp in 3 days? That is amazingly fast, what did you do exactly that got you there in such a short amount of time, you don't need to recall the experience, because it faded from your mind and believe me I know how that is. Its a 'You know whats happening only when it is happening' type of experience. After its over, your mind wipes it out, like someone else is operating the controls. Still, you hit warp and once you do that the memory sticks; and you will find it is not only possible to go back, it is also possible to go deeper.

      I am guessing that there is a lot going through your mind lately. Does the world seem the same? Are you enjoying yourself? Is it a little dramatic? It is a trip, isn't it? These trips are part of the journey itself, as this DOES go somewhere. I, personally, never hit warp so soon. Then again, it was almost a year before I ever had a good sized sheet, and I had to develop the design, because how else would I have it? I hit warp a few times, once while working on the code.

      I shot out of my body like a sling shot, went through the wall and then back into my body from the other side. When the shock got me, thats when I went back in. The entire physical structure will have to be described later, as it takes much time and care, but you will begin to see it more and more if you continue. I have also opened the center on many occasions, it turns liquid and sort of opens into some energy plane, looking like a vortex gate. The energy has shown itself to be both instable and unpredictable. Whenever I start to open it, it doesn't always happen the same way. Once the energy shot out like a fountain vortex whirl of red-silver energy. I've seen roughly 100 or more variations. Some of them are far more vivid and intense then others.

      Once, I saw it turn liquid and then I looked away to find that the room was also liquid, non-substantial, like a whispering illusion beginning to fade. After a few seconds it kept getting more surreal, so I shook my head and it returned to normal. At the time, I was making an example of 5 possible color coded systems, this is the example map I worked on:


      By jozenbo at 2008-03-21

      For the most part, most of the warping I bring about are like small ripples, still they are enough to jolt the mind a great deal. Its very exciting to hit warp, but its important to try to stay calm when it happens, as that excitement is also part of the shock that kicks one back so quickly. When you can learn to stay calm as you enter, you will be able to stay, and astral project like never before. Still, it goes far deeper then this. How deep does the Mind goes?


      You will also find that there are other things to experience as well. 1000's of them, the deeper you go, the faster they come, until there is virtually no way possible for you to ever express them, by the time you managed to express one, 1000 more have assailed you. When it gets like this, you begin to feel like your flying through time, though time goes by very slowly. If you keep calm and balanced, that won't bother you. Here I am getting ahead of myself...sorry.



      Please, do tell what you did for the 3 days prior to hitting warp in the portal. This is the very sort of information that serves to aid in gaining understanding of this Mind Portal, it will be both valuable and insightful to hear about.

      Also, congratulations! Having an open mind opens the Mind Portal, closing it shuts the door very quickly.


      Sweet Dreams,
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      Right now I'm only using the dream portal, though I plan to start the day portal soon. I'm not entirely sure what triggered the warp, I still haven't tried spinning it because I want to save that for when I have more images, but what happened was I woke up during the middle of the night, as usual, to do wbtb, I went and looked at the portal to recall the dreams I had drawn from the past 3 nights. I stared at the center of the portal for a minute and then went to lie down, before I even hit my mattress I was suddenly hurled through the wall into the portal, the sensation was so intense and confusing, one thing I do recall is that before going through the portal my room was suddenly inverted and everything was backwards, but its hard to explain or remember exactly how or what it looked like, you know? Once on the other side it was unlike any lucid dream, something incredibly amazing happened that I can't remember, but I do recall feeling like I was in an afterlife, so I became very very afraid and I remember the sensation of struggling to escape this other plane because I mistakenly thought I had died. I wish I was anticipating the experience because if I had braced myself I think I could have stayed there long enough to have some memory of it. Since then I haven't warped again, though I've repeated those same steps a few times, but my dreams have been changing in a great way. I hope I get more chances to warp, but regardless this change in my dreams is more than enough reason to continue using the portal. It is very exciting and my life and behavior have changed for the better from the effects of this portal. Besides spinning it, is there anything else you recommend for trying to open the portal ?
      "If you realize Sunyata (the void), compassion will arise within your hearts; and when you lose all differentiation between yourself and others, then you will be fit to serve others." - Milarepa


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      Quote Originally Posted by lucid4sho View Post
      Right now I'm only using the dream portal, though I plan to start the day portal soon. I'm not entirely sure what triggered the warp, I still haven't tried spinning it because I want to save that for when I have more images, but what happened was I woke up during the middle of the night, as usual, to do wbtb, I went and looked at the portal to recall the dreams I had drawn from the past 3 nights. I stared at the center of the portal for a minute and then went to lie down, before I even hit my mattress I was suddenly hurled through the wall into the portal, the sensation was so intense and confusing, one thing I do recall is that before going through the portal my room was suddenly inverted and everything was backwards, but its hard to explain or remember exactly how or what it looked like, you know?
      I understand the difficulty of describing let alone remembering what happened exactly. Often times, when I see or sense things that aren't normally seen or senses, it happens so fast my mind barely has a chance to get a lock down on figuring out what is happening, and before it gets that chance, its already over. This isn't saying that everything happens like that, it happens more so in the beginning.

      Lately, I have been having paranormal sensing that lasts as long as 10 minutes. Recently I observed this thick milky ether energy coming out of my wife's stomach. It looked like a cross between a river and steam on ice, only creamier. I am fully convinced that it was pure chi I was seeing, like the kind that the ancient martial arts masters spoke of. I've been seeing it for the last 2 years now, but always it a blink of the eye. At times I can even feel and comprehend what its doing. What stood out this time, is that I stared at it for 10 minutes, I looked away several times and looked back to see it still there. Energy is capable of so many different behaviors, as you'll soon find out.

      I also recall going to the bathroom in the middle of the night, after 3 or 4 months of working with the new code I developed, and suddenly finding myself outside of my body, and as you say, somehow inverted from how I am normally. I saw myself from the front, from the back, from the sides, from over head view, under view, at angles, and at rotated angles, every possible direction there is, ALL at the same time. It was like having 100 billions eyes on up to a continuum of vision seeing myself from the outside. It was extremely multidimensional, it would be impossible to describe it as 3 dimensional. As I realized I was seeing myself from the outside like this, I went into shock and was back in my body.



      So you woke up in the middle of the night to perform wtbt. What does wtbt stand for? I suspect waking up in the middle of the night might be part of the trigger, I have found that there are certain states of mind that activate this portal or are further activated by seeing it and thus trigger jumps into the warp zone. Waking up in the middle of the night, along with the performance of the wtbt may bring about such a state.

      Quote Originally Posted by lucid4sho View Post
      Once on the other side it was unlike any lucid dream, something incredibly amazing happened that I can't remember, but I do recall feeling like I was in an afterlife, so I became very very afraid and I remember the sensation of struggling to escape this other plane because I mistakenly thought I had died. I wish I was anticipating the experience because if I had braced myself I think I could have stayed there long enough to have some memory of it. Since then I haven't warped again, though I've repeated those same steps a few times, but my dreams have been changing in a great way. I hope I get more chances to warp, but regardless this change in my dreams is more than enough reason to continue using the portal. It is very exciting and my life and behavior have changed for the better from the effects of this portal. Besides spinning it, is there anything else you recommend for trying to open the portal ?

      Perhaps I have been there? You don't know where you are, but you feel the afterlife sensation within and around when you are there. The stuff you look at is solid, yet you can see the light holding its frame together. Stranger still, everything is so crisp, clean, clear, and well defined; perfect resolution of vision; its so perfect that it creates a sense of contrast back here in this blurry place we call the real world. I jumped into this place as I described earlier, and there encountered myself face to face.

      I have also found myself in other kinds of places too. Once, when I was 16 years old, I remembered one night how to astral project, it just came to my mind the way how. I got excited and tried it- as the means where crystal clear to me. I could locate these sequence chains of energy and push them into giving regions of my mind and BAMM- I am projected to another plane. When I did it...IT WORKED! At first I instantly turned 180 degrees and was looking out the back of my head at the wall behind me- seeing it perfectly clear. I then snapped back into my body. With each jump I could feel a click and some liquid moving around in my brain.

      I got really really excited. I still knew how to do it. So...I pushed those sequences into formation patterns and could fell electricity charging into vortexes sinking into particular regions of my brain. And...BAMM- I was in some sort of alien plane of existence, neither in space nor on ground. It seemed like a soup of habitation, the furniture was nothing human like at all. I stared at it trying to figure out what what was, I think I saw a chair and a table. Everything there was bluish silver; no other colors existed there. It was also not so solid like physical 'reality', you could easily see the energy within things holding them together. I then consciously decided to go back and I did.

      I got even more excited then the first time. I still remembered exactly how, it was like hitting a switch in the brain; as easy as it is to send a signal to flex a muscle. So...I did it again. This time I ended up somewhere the was a freaking nightmare hell; I immediately wanted to go back, but couldn't. I found myself on some lifeless planet lying on my side totally paralyzed. Even worse, these nasty, nasty rats materialized all around me. They had huge glowing red eyes, and their razor teeth stuck out of their mouths. There was a swarm of them, thousands of countless rats all crawling towards my body. Needless to say, I panicked. Just before they got to me I was blasted back into my body.

      It was so intense I forgot how the sequence went. I haven't ever managed to find it since. I haven't always been trying, then again; but from time to time I do. This was 12 years before I envisioned the Mind Portal, I discovered at an early age the Mind has many great powers that we simply don't know how to tap. These places I went to were real, I could feel the difference between them and what is dreaming. I remember that the sequence involved spirals warping and bending in on themselves, but they had to hit certain lobes at a certain rate of change on pick up. I'll start trying to probe my mind for it and see if I can locate it again (its been a while).

      Though, I suppose, even if I do find it, it won't be easy to say just how its done. I simply can't point to the forms that arise in the brain, then again...maybe it could be done with the right drawings? So or so I should answer your question.


      These are some examples of the things that induce responses from the living system the acquires their patterns of focus: Kriya Tantra Yoga, Yoga, Macrobiotics, Meditation, Martial Training, etc. Doing these alone will bring about results, giving persistence in practice. When they are mixed they can complement each other and do greater things still. When they are tracked down into the Mind Portal, they begin to race out their affects; you go from A to Z instead of A to B. Take Kriya Tantra Yoga; for example.

      If one persists with a sincere effort to walk the path of Kriya Tantra Yoga; eventually they will hear the Gods speaking directly to them, see the parallels, and the light that is everywhere. Everything becomes amazing and divine (which is why I need to seriously pick up with it...I'm setting up this week end to juggle it into my schedule). I delved into this while I was working out the code and already mapping some sort of intuitive code.

      After about 10 days I was having life altering experiences. The reality of it is embedded into my mind now, and I can not go on thinking it wasn't real. Normally, the eventually part takes more time. It took me about 10 days. I got there, then slipped out shortly after. I have been moving around from many different ways and means to alter my state of consciousness; and upon entering this one for a brief period of time, I discovered something incredible.

      I can't say that what happened then led to a warp jump, the warp jumps happened at other times, while I was focusing on other things. This mind portal is almost like a maze, theres so many places to go its mind boggling. And, there are dead ends, which are not always bad to find. As one map goes to another, you begin to see connections, as if there is a continuum despite the break, where the Map in Mind continues. We are both in the process of learning how to move around and navigate into this uncharted place. Its good to have a chart when going there, in fact, its almost required.

      The portal itself is a tool for training the mind, helping it to find things that can not be found by normal rational logical deduction. Theres more to reality and life then what people generally want to think it actually is. When you see it spin, the shapes of energy sequences in your brain begin to resonate and formate into those that lead to warps and jumps; you'll find there are many different words that sort of spring up to refer to them. Going liquid is a kind of warp, so is hitting the holographic interface of pure void. What is so odd about these different kinds of warps, is that so far I have found that all of them illuminate reality and show things that cannot be seen nor understood otherwise.

      Its a very difficult task, to sort out all the buttons (edited bottoms away...hehe), keys, and means here. To warp into other planes, there is a certain way of looking at the mind portal while gathering the energy patterns in the mind, as the mind's brain waves are at a lower frequency that can settle onto the fall into the curve, like slipping onto a slide. This would certainly be similar to a Deird, though there would be something very different about the feel and interaction of being there. As though...its not actually a dream, and other Entities can decide to interact with you while you are there.

      Its a real life adventure, as this reality can be accessed. When I consider what is there, its like diving into the deep blue sea. The best ways I can think of to directly access warp jumps is, for beginners, try repeating what you did last time, try to remember every detail before, as what happened is too hazy. Also, try combinations of various paths of focus (tai chi, Reiki, etc), consider where these paths lead and then warp ahead to those destinations using the portal, also, begin to learn more about breathing then you already know, I find there is always more to learn about this 'simple' activity. Alter your thoughts at times when you can to stop making words in thought and start making shapes, work with these shapes and mold them. Look at curving sequences that slide into an exponential vortexes bending in. See if you can steer and feel the energy at discreet regions within your brain. Thats where the button is, and if you find it, be careful not to lose it.

      Also, you will find if you spin that the jumps will happen with much greater ease, as your mind becomes more and more focused on those thoughtless thoughts of shaped energy formations curving in on themselves into vortexes; after all, seeing and gathering the light energy that shapes those visuals and stamps their impressions into the brain directly is going to be a very useful aid in getting there. Having a code to spin, a personal code, will magnify how your mind engages with this spiral, not only is the shape curving into energy impression stamps formed in the brain, and reflected through the system (sort of like stomping your foot and making the water shake in the cup on the table), this will play a role in how the jump takes place, with out that code you can still jump into other parallels, or snap into different planes altogether, yet the code not only secures your own self location, it causes the jump to go much further then normal.

      So, basically, even if you can't manage to find that button in the brain, or the trigger as it was, and it can't simply be automatically reproduced, then by spinning you can without doubt pull it off again and go further. Please remind me if I already discussed how the charging up process of gathering spin functions. I did go over this, correct? Where it is actually acquired, picking up within the living matrix system until who knows what? If not, think of it like this, your charging up with electricity, light, velocity and spin, vibrational fluxations, and still more. If so, then I won't have to repeat about the balancing of the charge as it gathers.
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      After the warp experience I had an intense feeling that I had seen my waking self as very infantile and ignorant. I had never perceived my limits and flaws with so much conviction and emotion. It shook my core and that feeling has been a trigger thats bettered my perspective, I've been meditating, exercising, and studying more, eating healthier, spending more time contemplating and introspecting, etc. I really appreciate you sharing your knowledge and experience, It is very inspiring and I am benefiting a lot, and I'm sure it will only continue to spread to others. You did go over the spin functions, when I feel I'm ready to use it I will be careful to stay balanced. I've got a lot more I'd like to ask and say, but right now I have to get to class, I hope you will continue to be present at this forum, at least from time to time. From my perspective your presence is a huge contribution for anyone ready to pursue a deeper understanding of energy and life.
      "If you realize Sunyata (the void), compassion will arise within your hearts; and when you lose all differentiation between yourself and others, then you will be fit to serve others." - Milarepa


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      After about 5 days of using the mind portal (as a dream map) I have had a large increase in dreams which ended a 2 week dry spell. Last night especially, I had a ridiculous amount of dreams; my whole notebook page was covered in footnotes by the time I woke up. I noticed a few of them have had more emotional impact than usual. I don't rule out placebo, or coincidence but so far I've had promising results.


      Also, a few clarifications.
      Is there any problems with doing a portal on a printer-size sheet of paper other than space? I don't really have access to oversize printing.

      Do I give dreamless nights a blank box, or do I just fill them in order regardless of date. (or does it matter)

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      Jozen-Bo have you noticed a specific pattern with dream vividness and the moon cycle? If so does it effect each person different?
      "If you realize Sunyata (the void), compassion will arise within your hearts; and when you lose all differentiation between yourself and others, then you will be fit to serve others." - Milarepa


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      So, how is this going for everyone? Seeing any patterns yet?

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      Smile Placebo, Map Sizes, & Dreamless Nights

      Quote Originally Posted by lucid4sho View Post
      After the warp experience I had an intense feeling that I had seen my waking self as very infantile and ignorant. I had never perceived my limits and flaws with so much conviction and emotion. It shook my core and that feeling has been a trigger thats bettered my perspective, I've been meditating, exercising, and studying more, eating healthier, spending more time contemplating and introspecting, etc. I really appreciate you sharing your knowledge and experience, It is very inspiring and I am benefiting a lot, and I'm sure it will only continue to spread to others. You did go over the spin functions, when I feel I'm ready to use it I will be careful to stay balanced. I've got a lot more I'd like to ask and say, but right now I have to get to class, I hope you will continue to be present at this forum, at least from time to time. From my perspective your presence is a huge contribution for anyone ready to pursue a deeper understanding of energy and life.
      I am happy to hear that you are putting it to good use! I get the sense that you are putting this together quite rapidly and making the most with it. I am also glad to hear that you perceived your limits as you did, I remember very clearly being focused on my own from minute to minute for about 3 weeks, and there where experiences that exalted this perception. Its not an easy part to talk about, as the feelings cannot be expressed by the words themselves. I am left wondering if this is a normal occurrence when someone hits warp for the first time?

      I was certainly forced to confront my own limits as such things happened, then again, the map is such that it makes you confront yourself from day to day, this likely plays a role. As I said earlier, I even confronted myself literally as I saw another physical duplicate of myself shortly after warping into another plane/place. The nice thing about it is, the better we see ourselves, the easier it is for us to exceed these limits and perfect our flaws. Having a portal map to the mind is a VERY useful tool for doing this. Latent in the very idea of tracking down achievements is not only exceeding limits, but reinforcing the process of achieving itself.

      As for my presence, as long as the Meridians drain here, I will be where I am. Then again, even if I move, the Internet can be accessed from any country just about. If I am physically present on this planet and the Internet is around, then I am likely to be both present and around from time to time, thanks for asking!

      Quote Originally Posted by Grunkie7 View Post
      After about 5 days of using the mind portal (as a dream map) I have had a large increase in dreams which ended a 2 week dry spell. Last night especially, I had a ridiculous amount of dreams; my whole notebook page was covered in footnotes by the time I woke up. I noticed a few of them have had more emotional impact than usual. I don't rule out placebo, or coincidence but so far I've had promising results.
      I am happy to hear that you are mapping out your dreams, and that your having them more frequently as a result. Regarding the placebo, part of the Mind Portal functions on the placebo, after all...its all in your mind...right? Think about it, you are sitting down, thinking about your dream, taking the map out, filling it in with the thought of your dream, and then observing it as the symbol communicates your dream to you. You are entangled in involvement, and the placebo of it is being reinforced the entire time of doing this. If anything, this is a condensed form of placebo, or we could use the word auto-suggestion.

      Its certainly a factor, though there is more to it then this. Electromagnetic energy is not a placebo, when it goes into your mind, that is real energy containing the shapes and forms of the coded information. As energy mixes with energy, something happens, its that simple. Then the Mind Portal works both within and outside the realm of placebo affects.


      When you are getting into the rhythm of dreaming more regularly as you use and alter your mind so that you do indeed dream more, it is a good idea to keep on it with greater care, though, since your mapping this out, how could you miss it? May your dreams be rewarding!!!


      I have noted myself that I begin to have triple or quadruple or more dreams in a single night and wake up remembering all of them, and to write them down by hand can get very challenging, though I am getting better at being succinct. I have about 30 days into my map, I think I will prepare some pictures soon!!!

      Quote Originally Posted by Grunkie7 View Post
      Also, a few clarifications.
      Is there any problems with doing a portal on a printer-size sheet of paper other than space? I don't really have access to oversize printing.
      It won't engage the mind as much as a full sized poster, though it does set up a means of tracking and is still very useful. Its more challenging to squeeze information into such a small page, but its good practice, as if you can manage to fit information into a page, then you'll have no problem getting it into a full sized print when you finally do get access. I used several hundred page sized print up as I investigated and explored as many combinations of different things as I could.

      The great thing about this size is not only its accessibility, but how insanely cheap it is to print. The fall back is that it will not engage the mind as much when it is spun, you simply won't feel it as much as you would a full sized wheel in motion. However, you can get the small page image enlarged at a print shop for a low price, so that it is large enough to engage the mind, doing so when it is best convenient for yourself. So, go ahead and keep using what you got, you can always change its size if you want when you want.


      Quote Originally Posted by Grunkie7 View Post
      Do I give dreamless nights a blank box, or do I just fill them in order regardless of date. (or does it matter)
      I fill them in with neon blue and black dots, trying to give them an outer space feel. I have been learning with this first map, so these days are not exactly how I would like them (blue paint with yellow dotted stars), but I will be splitting onto the second Dream map soon on July th 26th, as this is when the Year starts for me. I will continue with the map I have until it is done, though the others shall coincide with the Day map. Funny enough, the map itself was initiated by an encounter in a dream.

      Its a good idea to distinguish between dreamless nights and dreaming nights, as those gaps of information are powerful forms of communication, you look at them and they remind you and show you how you are doing in the moment. I already have about 2 weeks of blanks...star filled nights... on my dream map. I am not thrilled about it, but I was neither mapping nor paying attention at the time, and the map honestly conveys my laziness to me, making my...CONFRONT MYSELF!

      You can do it however you want, but use some symbol, sign, or design to indicate these nights. They should stand out almost immediately amongst the others, though repeating tends to make this very obvious. If you paint over them with dream symbols that have no meaning, then the whole map begins to weaken. If you can recall only a feeling, you might use a color and nothing else; I have no rules for this then again, and though I generally put blue starry nights into the dreamless nights, I might make it a red starry night if I can somehow recall the feelings, even if I can't remember the dream.

      Quote Originally Posted by lucid4sho View Post
      Jozen-Bo have you noticed a specific pattern with dream vividness and the moon cycle? If so does it effect each person different?
      I have noticed that the moon cycles affect my dreams considerably, this becomes even more obvious when I am keeping track of both the moon cycles and the dreams. To go even further, there are also certain days that are especially potent, and then there is the shift from the solstice to the equinox. As the days get longer or the nights get longer, this certainly affects the vivid nature of the dreams. I find that I tend to go into deeper states as the nights gather length, while as the days gather, I tend to have shorter dreams and more bursts of many dreams rather then a long one, though my mind is capable of breaking this pattern if it chooses to. As to the full moons, I have a hard time sleeping those nights, I tend to get rather active. New moons are great for getting into a deep sleep and going vivid. The moon cycles, if I am correct, are going to affect everyone in ways that are both similar and different, in a similar fashion as a color, for example red, does.

      Quote Originally Posted by psychology student View Post
      So, how is this going for everyone? Seeing any patterns yet?
      Life is full of challenge, I am doing my best to keep up with it. Things are going, I am going to see if I can make them go better...

      I suppose its not fair it I answer yes, since this question is posed at everyone, though I am included amongst everyone! I myself look forward to hearing these answers. Though, when I look at this thread, there does indeed seem to be a pattern here, that is...use the dream map and you start to dream more frequently and more vividly, to say the least.

      As for yourself, Psychology Student, how are things going for yourself? Also, are you seeing any patterns yet?
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      Quote Originally Posted by Jozen-Bo View Post
      Regarding the placebo, part of the Mind Portal functions on the placebo, after all...its all in your mind...right? Think about it, you are sitting down, thinking about your dream, taking the map out, filling it in with the thought of your dream, and then observing it as the symbol communicates your dream to you. You are entangled in involvement, and the placebo of it is being reinforced the entire time of doing this. If anything, this is a condensed form of placebo, or we could use the word auto-suggestion.

      Its certainly a factor, though there is more to it then this. Electromagnetic energy is not a placebo, when it goes into your mind, that is real energy containing the shapes and forms of the coded information. As energy mixes with energy, something happens, its that simple. Then the Mind Portal works both within and outside the realm of placebo affects.

      Ya I was thinking about that. The portal needs the mind to work, yet at the same time my reaction to it has caused experiences I wouldn't have anticipated. I know you said energy contributes to this, is this partially because the mind has a natural inclination for the portals design?
      "If you realize Sunyata (the void), compassion will arise within your hearts; and when you lose all differentiation between yourself and others, then you will be fit to serve others." - Milarepa


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      Ya I was thinking about that. The portal needs the mind to work, yet at the same time my reaction to it has caused experiences I wouldn't have anticipated. I know you said energy contributes to this, is this partially because the mind has a natural inclination for the portals design?
      The brain contains the energy of the mind as this energy runs through the biological system, which is composed of many cells. All of these cells are composed of DNA. DNA is basically spiral shaped, our physical building blocks are made of molecular spiral shapes. And, if we go into the particle itself, we find many more sets of spiral patterns. Our mind gets its natural inclination of the portal's design (a spiral) from the natural geometrical shapes from which it is itself composed from. When we think, the energy in our brains curves into attractive (spiral) centers, and every activity of the mind itself also includes spiral geometry.

      We channel electricity because Nickolai Tesla had the insight to see that a spiral copper coil with a magnet rotating in the middle could generate electricity, our modern world wouldn't be so modern without electricity. Electricity itself makes spirals as the particles jump. Matter is held together through an exchange of energy, each particle in existence being a vortex flusher (a little spiral), and ALL WAVES makes spirals as they settle, if you know how to map them mathematically as I do, which is really, really easy to do. The most up-to-date computers are operating on spiral configurations, as these have been found to be able to process more information. All technological limits will without a question begin and end with this shape. The Mind Portal, goes beyond any external technology and is instead a key to the internal technology (we could use the word Power) nature provided us with.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Jozen-Bo View Post
      I am happy to hear that you are putting it to good use! I get the sense that you are putting this together quite rapidly and making the most with it. I am also glad to hear that you perceived your limits as you did, I remember very clearly being focused on my own from minute to minute for about 3 weeks, and there where experiences that exalted this perception. Its not an easy part to talk about, as the feelings cannot be expressed by the words themselves. I am left wondering if this is a normal occurrence when someone hits warp for the first time?

      I was certainly forced to confront my own limits as such things happened, then again, the map is such that it makes you confront yourself from day to day, this likely plays a role. As I said earlier, I even confronted myself literally as I saw another physical duplicate of myself shortly after warping into another plane/place. The nice thing about it is, the better we see ourselves, the easier it is for us to exceed these limits and perfect our flaws. Having a portal map to the mind is a VERY useful tool for doing this. Latent in the very idea of tracking down achievements is not only exceeding limits, but reinforcing the process of achieving itself.

      As for my presence, as long as the Meridians drain here, I will be where I am. Then again, even if I move, the Internet can be accessed from any country just about. If I am physically present on this planet and the Internet is around, then I am likely to be both present and around from time to time, thanks for asking!



      I am happy to hear that you are mapping out your dreams, and that your having them more frequently as a result. Regarding the placebo, part of the Mind Portal functions on the placebo, after all...its all in your mind...right? Think about it, you are sitting down, thinking about your dream, taking the map out, filling it in with the thought of your dream, and then observing it as the symbol communicates your dream to you. You are entangled in involvement, and the placebo of it is being reinforced the entire time of doing this. If anything, this is a condensed form of placebo, or we could use the word auto-suggestion.

      Its certainly a factor, though there is more to it then this. Electromagnetic energy is not a placebo, when it goes into your mind, that is real energy containing the shapes and forms of the coded information. As energy mixes with energy, something happens, its that simple. Then the Mind Portal works both within and outside the realm of placebo affects.


      When you are getting into the rhythm of dreaming more regularly as you use and alter your mind so that you do indeed dream more, it is a good idea to keep on it with greater care, though, since your mapping this out, how could you miss it? May your dreams be rewarding!!!


      I have noted myself that I begin to have triple or quadruple or more dreams in a single night and wake up remembering all of them, and to write them down by hand can get very challenging, though I am getting better at being succinct. I have about 30 days into my map, I think I will prepare some pictures soon!!!



      It won't engage the mind as much as a full sized poster, though it does set up a means of tracking and is still very useful. Its more challenging to squeeze information into such a small page, but its good practice, as if you can manage to fit information into a page, then you'll have no problem getting it into a full sized print when you finally do get access. I used several hundred page sized print up as I investigated and explored as many combinations of different things as I could.

      The great thing about this size is not only its accessibility, but how insanely cheap it is to print. The fall back is that it will not engage the mind as much when it is spun, you simply won't feel it as much as you would a full sized wheel in motion. However, you can get the small page image enlarged at a print shop for a low price, so that it is large enough to engage the mind, doing so when it is best convenient for yourself. So, go ahead and keep using what you got, you can always change its size if you want when you want.




      I fill them in with neon blue and black dots, trying to give them an outer space feel. I have been learning with this first map, so these days are not exactly how I would like them (blue paint with yellow dotted stars), but I will be splitting onto the second Dream map soon on July th 26th, as this is when the Year starts for me. I will continue with the map I have until it is done, though the others shall coincide with the Day map. Funny enough, the map itself was initiated by an encounter in a dream.

      Its a good idea to distinguish between dreamless nights and dreaming nights, as those gaps of information are powerful forms of communication, you look at them and they remind you and show you how you are doing in the moment. I already have about 2 weeks of blanks...star filled nights... on my dream map. I am not thrilled about it, but I was neither mapping nor paying attention at the time, and the map honestly conveys my laziness to me, making my...CONFRONT MYSELF!

      You can do it however you want, but use some symbol, sign, or design to indicate these nights. They should stand out almost immediately amongst the others, though repeating tends to make this very obvious. If you paint over them with dream symbols that have no meaning, then the whole map begins to weaken. If you can recall only a feeling, you might use a color and nothing else; I have no rules for this then again, and though I generally put blue starry nights into the dreamless nights, I might make it a red starry night if I can somehow recall the feelings, even if I can't remember the dream.



      I have noticed that the moon cycles affect my dreams considerably, this becomes even more obvious when I am keeping track of both the moon cycles and the dreams. To go even further, there are also certain days that are especially potent, and then there is the shift from the solstice to the equinox. As the days get longer or the nights get longer, this certainly affects the vivid nature of the dreams. I find that I tend to go into deeper states as the nights gather length, while as the days gather, I tend to have shorter dreams and more bursts of many dreams rather then a long one, though my mind is capable of breaking this pattern if it chooses to. As to the full moons, I have a hard time sleeping those nights, I tend to get rather active. New moons are great for getting into a deep sleep and going vivid. The moon cycles, if I am correct, are going to affect everyone in ways that are both similar and different, in a similar fashion as a color, for example red, does.



      Life is full of challenge, I am doing my best to keep up with it. Things are going, I am going to see if I can make them go better...

      I suppose its not fair it I answer yes, since this question is posed at everyone, though I am included amongst everyone! I myself look forward to hearing these answers. Though, when I look at this thread, there does indeed seem to be a pattern here, that is...use the dream map and you start to dream more frequently and more vividly, to say the least.

      As for yourself, Psychology Student, how are things going for yourself? Also, are you seeing any patterns yet?
      No, not really. I dream more on the weekend though.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Jozen-Bo View Post
      The brain contains the energy of the mind as this energy runs through the biological system, which is composed of many cells. All of these cells are composed of DNA. DNA is basically spiral shaped, our physical building blocks are made of molecular spiral shapes. And, if we go into the particle itself, we find many more sets of spiral patterns. Our mind gets its natural inclination of the portal's design (a spiral) from the natural geometrical shapes from which it is itself composed from. When we think, the energy in our brains curves into attractive (spiral) centers, and every activity of the mind itself also includes spiral geometry.

      We channel electricity because Nickolai Tesla had the insight to see that a spiral copper coil with a magnet rotating in the middle could generate electricity, our modern world wouldn't be so modern without electricity. Electricity itself makes spirals as the particles jump. Matter is held together through an exchange of energy, each particle in existence being a vortex flusher (a little spiral), and ALL WAVES makes spirals as they settle, if you know how to map them mathematically as I do, which is really, really easy to do. The most up-to-date computers are operating on spiral configurations, as these have been found to be able to process more information. All technological limits will without a question begin and end with this shape. The Mind Portal, goes beyond any external technology and is instead a key to the internal technology (we could use the word Power) nature provided us with.
      Thanks for explaining that! To some extent I had noticed the importance of spirals in creation, but I hadn't related it to the minds own affinity for the design.

      I have made it a goal to try and manifest the portal in a dream and see if it contains the images I have drawn so far, making it possible for me to easily recall other dreams while within a dream, if the portal appears to me as blank I will try to draw the images in. I have never really practiced remembering other dreams while lucid, but since the portal gives me a good way of attempting it I think its worth experimenting with.
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      I didn't get much sleep last night so I only had one 5 minute lucid. I didn't try manifesting the portal because I could feel the dream wasn't stable and I want time to examine it closely. I should be able to accomplish it tonight but if not definitely by this weekend.
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      I viewed the portal during a lucid this morning. I need to practice this more because I saw it blank and could only fill in several of the images. After filling in what I could remember I spent most of the remainder of the ld floating with the clouds, I think recalling the portal stabilized the LD because its vividness was above average. I'll keep experimenting.
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      lucid4sho, I love your experiment. Good luck with it! And continue reporting.

      I've been using my mind portal for one month now. And thanks to it I can remember clearly what I did last month.
      However, my spin function doens't work too good. It only spins for a couple of seconds, so I have to re-spin it all the time. Which makes it harder to concentrate on the code, and probably doesn't have the same effect.

      Last month I had a very vivid lucid dream "this night". Maybe I'll have it again...?

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      Thanks Bolognese. are you using the day map and adding dreams to it? The experiment is going good, I am able to recall the portal with the images while lucid, for the most part. I actually haven't even written on the actual portal in a few days because I am just logging the images in my mind, it forces me to remember the dreams, but I will log them soon because I will eventually be overloaded.
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      Smile Developments and more developments!

      It is very refreshing to see other people picking up on this! I just resumed my spinning yesterday, I am determined to break my record of 23 days this time. I am moving at twice the rate, spinning the days and the dreams to gain 2 a day, which takes more time. I've had a few minor warps here and there, hard to explain, like a half-jump that snaps back before going further.

      Not much time, so limited, my back against the wall with it. I appreciate it more each second. I stopped for a few days with the dream map, my brain and mind where shifting gears and now I am acting differently. I am resuming immediately tomorrow, as I so desire. My dreams have been leaving very strong impressions of singular items, in the form of some puzzle I can't make any sense out of, only that it is a puzzle...I'm puzzled by this...so its time to begin tracking the steps down, which helps to further focus.

      As a result of the shifting I have begun to mail the governments of the world, some 184 of them, much sooner then intended. I have considered EVERY possible outcome. This is going to be interesting, because whatever happens will be to my advantage tremendously, and I mean whatever.

      I will keep reporting here, the dream map is of great interest to myself and I am happy to add others. If there are time gaps, keep in mind what I am up to, it takes time and I want to get on to the next phase, which will free up more time and allow my to dig deeper. I am going to take some pictures and make a video of the dream map as it is this weekend, and try to get it up then too. I will certainly notify when this is finished.
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      Thanks for the update, hope all goes well! I look forward to the video/pictures!
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      Wink I'm a little late...

      I just wanted to say those pictures and video are going to be a little late, as I am going through a transition in life that began last Thursday, as I go from one professional position to another. My previous position wasn't suiting me well, and I am happy to be beginning a new one...no need to give the details...this little guy should say it all!



      I'm going to try to get them ready by tomorrow, which would be Thursday the 17th, 2008 Gregorian time. Once again...






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      What is warping?

      GOOD WILD's: 4 (Got it down Bitches!)
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      READ ABOUT THE EPIC DREAM!

      http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=61915

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      Quote Originally Posted by Jozen-Bo View Post
      I just wanted to say those pictures and video are going to be a little late, as I am going through a transition in life that began last Thursday, as I go from one professional position to another. My previous position wasn't suiting me well, and I am happy to be beginning a new one...no need to give the details...this little guy should say it all!



      I'm going to try to get them ready by tomorrow, which would be Thursday the 17th, 2008 Gregorian time. Once again...






      Glad to hear all is well!
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      Talking The Dream Map Pictures and Videos + Warping explained

      OK...I got the pictures ready along with the video! The quality isn't the greatest, but its better then nothing. I have a new camera that will allow me to make both better quality pictures and videos, though I need to get a memory card for it soon. Much of the details are not seen as it blurs a little.

      For this dream map I have decided to use color pens, though I could get far more detail using a mechanical pencil, and this is a trail an error process where I learn as I go along, I will use colored pencils in the future and sharpen them to get the finer details I want. This is just the first map...I am starting from ground zero...

      Still, I hope this helps!



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      Quote Originally Posted by RockNRoller123 View Post
      What is warping?
      Warping is when you either astral project into a parallel universe, or when you project into a virtual reality in your own mind that is more real then the waking world, more detailed, and more intense. Based on what my sensations told me when it happened to me at full throttle, I'd say that you are leaving your body and going to a parallel universe, though I am well aware at how powerful the mind is when it begins to spark up and use more then the typical 5-10% we normally use.

      There are also different kinds of warps as well, they probably will need to be classified. For an example of a partial warp, I have seen the room to into liquid, or I have begun at times to see the shadowy void beneath the surface of material objects, as streaks of light tear temporary rips through the surface. What is amazingly interesting about that last bit is that when it happened I acquired a knowledge as it happened of tremendous understanding of reality, and when it stopped the understand dwindled.
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      I am not quite sure that I understand the point of this. Can I get a short explenation of the exact purpose?

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      Awesome! I can't wait to make mine spinnable. I am waiting to do it because my first random warp experience showed me how intense it can be and I want to be prepared before I intentionally try to induce it.

      Jozen, would you please post the materials and method you used to make the portal spinnable? thanks!!
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