The Mind Portal as a Powerful Dream Map!

**Jozen-Bo** · 07-27-2008 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by lucid4sho

Awesome! I can't wait to make mine spinnable. I am waiting to do it because my first random warp experience showed me how intense it can be and I want to be prepared before I intentionally try to induce it.

Jozen, would you please post the materials and method you used to make the portal spinnable? thanks!!

How to build a wheel!

By jozenbo at 2008-05-17

Purchase two boards that are either 3 feet by 3 feet or 1 meter by 1 meter. Draw a circle on them as large as possible. Cut these circles out, making sure not to damage the four corners leftover of the square, as they will be used as footing.

Next, check the radius of the skate board wheel and then draw a smaller circle with a smaller radius in the center of the large circle board. It should be larger enough to fit a socket wrench into, so that the skate board wheel can be taken off the tread and placed back on it and fastened.

By jozenbo at 2008-05-17

Buy two more boards, both roughly the same size as the first. Leave these as squares. In the picture above from left to right is a row of 3 pictures. Starting at the left, purchase a 4x4 or a wooden post that is roughly 4 feet or 130 centimeters long. Trim the edge of one of the square boards so that it is slightly smaller then the other, 280 centimeters should work. Then draw in a square the same dimensions as the 4x4's width and height, which should be 4 inches by 4 inches, or in the case of centimeters, roughly 12 by 12.

Moving to the middle row of the picture, place the smaller square board on top of the larger one and bolt or nail them together. It may be a good idea to place some kind of padding under the larger board, so it doesn't scrape the floor later. Next, insert the 4x4 into the hole in the middle of the smaller board, so that the 4x4 stands its length vertical.

Next, in row to the right of the picture, take those four corners from the board that the circle was cut out of and place them so they stand against the wooden 4x4 in the pattern shown in the top view. The red shows where the bolts or nails are placed, so that each footing reinforces the next. Each footing should be nailed or bolted 3 times into the 4x4, as show in the side angle view.

By jozenbo at 2008-05-17

In step 3 the skate board wheel (magenta) tread is bolted directly to the 4x4 at the top. Make sure that the bolts are long and fastened well, as this is a place where a lot of torque gathers. Metal wire or a metal plating around this area can give additional reinforcement. After bolting on the skate board wheel tread and securing it, use a socket wrench to take off the wheels.

Now comes time to prepare the wheel. Take one of the of those large donut circle board and center the skate board wheel over it and draw out the skateboard wheel's circle size. Purchase 12 feet of 2x4" long boards and cut them into 1 foot lengths. Position these into the pattern shown around that hole that is the size of the skate board wheel, making them only a tiny bit smaller then the hole, so the the skate board wheel will need to be banged a little into the hole they make later.

Next, bolt each one 3 to 6 times (as the red points show in the picture) to the big wooden donut. Make sure they don't go so deep they show on the other side of the board, which is where the calendar will go. After doing this place the wheel over the smaller hole and bang it in with a hammer, it should fit tightly in, held fast by the bolt's boards around it. Next pour in glue around the cracks of the skateboard wheel, filling them entirely. This will dry and harden, making the wheel hold even more fast to the board.

After this, purchase two small metal plates for each wheel, place the two over the wheel and the 6 wooden boards so that the hole in the center of the skate board wheel will still fit back on the skateboard wheel tread. This is shown as the two purple lines indicate in the lower right part of the picture above. MAKE SURE YOU CAN STILL FIT THE WHEEL ON THE BACK ON THE TREAD AND THAT YOU CAN STILL REACH THE BOLTS FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF THE SKATEBOARD WHEEL.

After doing this for one wheel, prepare the next in the same way. Let both dry for a few days before putting them on the post prepared, otherwise the wheel may slip a little and not stand straight later. A crooked spin burns out much faster then a well balanced one.

To increase the wheel's spinning value, add more weight to the outer perimeter of the donut on the inside part, as this will increase centrifugal forces that maintain spin. Metal or wooden weights should work fine. If the board is heavy enough itself, (which it should be), then this isn't needed and it will add torque to the system, making it less stable. If everything is secured with heavy bolting systems, (industrial steel type) these additional weights added to the perimeter will prove a good boost.

By JozenBo at 2008-05-17

In step 4, after waiting a few days to let the glue dry, take the two wheels prepared and slide them back on the skateboard tread. Using a socket wrench that fits through the smaller hole of the large donut boards, fasten the wheels back on to the treads. The lower right picture shows what this will look like when it is done from a front view. The better balanced the wheels are, the longer they will spin. The more weight they have, the longer they will spin. The better the pivot system, the longer they will spin. The pivot system is critical, a good set of wheels makes a huge difference in the overall final spin quality.

My prototype began spinning for as many as 7-8 minutes. Now they spin as many as 15-20. If I tweak it by adding weight, I could get more spin out of it. A more balanced system could be prepared that kicks out over 1 hour of spin time, I simply used the cheapest materials I could get. My own prototype is a tweaked version of these plans, which should be better. The skateboard wheel I had wasn't held fast to the skateboard in the regular way, so I had to add a metal bar in the center of the standing post.

Last, I prepared a video of the prototype wheel I built myself. It should help to make these pictures easier to understand. Study this video and these pictures until you understand them well. Then, if you have a better idea outline it and execute it if you can, otherwise these provide sound plans for how to develop a good sturdy wheel that should last many years.

**lucid4sho** · 07-31-2008 08:16 PM

Wow, great instructions. Thanks!!!!!! I am going to start constructing this asap.

**ShoNuff** · 08-02-2008 08:32 PM

Do you use this instead of a dream journal or do you do both?

**lucid4sho** · 08-06-2008 08:01 AM

I have been really swamped with school but I finally got a chance to build the spinner. I've only used it for a few moments today and I felt some really strange effects. I seem to have an affinity for it spinning to the right. I will start reporting as I experiment more. I am curious to see if my dreams are affected tonight.

**Juedz** · 08-12-2008 05:13 PM

Hello Josenbo and everyone.

I found this forum yesterday and find it totally fascinating. I can see that finding additional information is not quite so easy and I have a couple of questions.

After reading the forums, I see that it is remarkably like the Bruno mind art model. Was this your inspiration? I think the spiral is a far better model as, as you state, the spiral symbolizes - on a basic level - the expanding universe, as well as the preferred pattern found in nature.

I was trying to find more exact info on the code system and I found the following info at computer-forums.net that you wrote which seems to clarify this more than I can find in this one: (quite possibly I missed it.)

"The Mind Portal is a curved spiral time map attractor graph for measuring patterns in time. One of its more curious ways of being used involves putting together a code to keep track on one's time. This is done by grouping the main areas of ones life and then further breaking those groups down into their respective functions. For example; is one works, then that this takes up usually 40 hours a week, it absorbs enough time to merit one of the major groups. Then; work could be broken down further as follows; worked a full day, missed a day, sick day, vocation day, weekend, late to work, promotion, raise, meeting, interview, etc. These sublists and lists are the first step to generating a code.

The second step involves placing the information into a system that quickly communicates the information while condensing it. For this, one needs a little rectangle that represents one day on the Mind Portal map. Take this rectangle and divide it into regions for each major regions one has. Then produce symbols within those regions to control information and quickly gather it as its location within the rectangle confers which major group it belongs to. These symbols can be mixed using form, count, and color. Count involves anything that implies a number; a square implies 4, a star implies 5, a triangle implies 3, etc. Form concerns itself with HOW the square or triangle is drawn. And color is self evident. To produce the symbols for a day code for tracking one's time, any one of these is enough. If they are mixed, then it is possible to contrive incredibly vast amounts of information into a small region, such as the curved rectangles within the Mind Portal map."

I also see where your model consists of 28 columns x 13 rows, which equals 364 days, almost a full year. Which seems right with recording a yearly calendar. The Giordani Bruno chart had 33 columns x 7, which equals 231 segments. I couldn't find any info - so far - as to why this particular number was selected by Bruno and what significance it may have.

Somewhere in this forum, you mention a monthly version. Would this involve making a chart with 7 columns and four rows or does it really matter?

What would you consider the minimum size the chart needs to be to be effective?

I don't have a printer that prints on a large scale so I found that I could possibly construct the spiral by making a chart of concentric circles - equidistant from each other, then cut the chart in half and adjust it by one row to create the spiral.

This seems to be a phenomenal way to get in touch with my subconscious mind and I can't wait to "give it a whirl!"

What I'm working on now is setting up the code symbols for myself. I do think constructing your own personal code is a good idea. I think each persons subconscious needs to assist in its creation so that its meaning is clearly understood. Input and output need to be clear - if that's even possible.

Thanks,

Judy

**lucid4sho** · 08-15-2008 06:40 AM

My results from using the map have been tremendous. I am still not spinning it more than a little at a time. I have had some unusual experiences, but haven't had a chance to explore them because of work and school. Most my lds now typically start within an hour or so of me going to bed, previously the majority of my lds were near the morning. They are insanely vivid, yet are becoming shorter because I am increasingly excited by the new vividness. I think the improvements are definitely related to using the map, it is helping a lot. Also I think it is improving my waking memory as well.

**ShoNuff** · 08-15-2008 11:16 PM

I just had a few copies of this made and im going to start using it this weekend. I plan on using the dream map for now while i develop a code to add the day map also. Ive read information about this on multiple forums and this really does seem like an amazing discovery. If this just improves my recall and overall memory i will consider it well worth it. Anyone else use this map yet and if so any results?

**ShoNuff** · 08-15-2008 11:19 PM

Originally Posted by lucid4sho

My results from using the map have been tremendous. I am still not spinning it more than a little at a time. I have had some unusual experiences, but haven't had a chance to explore them because of work and school. Most my lds now typically start within an hour or so of me going to bed, previously the majority of my lds were near the morning. They are insanely vivid, yet are becoming shorter because I am increasingly excited by the new vividness. I think the improvements are definitely related to using the map, it is helping a lot. Also I think it is improving my waking memory as well.

Are you recording every dream onto the map or just one dream per night?

**lucid4sho** · 08-16-2008 06:33 PM

Originally Posted by ShoNuff

Are you recording every dream onto the map or just one dream per night?

Just the most memorable dream, typically a lucid one. I should probably still be recording the rest of the dreams in my tape recorder, but i've been so busy lately.

Lately I have been focused on having lds every other day. I still have them on the nights I don't try, but not nearly as much. Before I would try a little bit everyday, and now I don't try at all one day, then I try a lot the next. Its really working for me, i think the map helped me realize this pattern.

**ladoys** · 08-20-2008 05:44 AM

Too dumb to understand here ha. I dunno...

**Jozen-Bo** · 08-20-2008 06:35 PM

I have been so busy lately, though my time is used wisely and I enjoy it more each day. I need to catch up here this weekend when I am not so swarmed with things to do, nor so tired from learning so much (blood pumps in brain...). I wouldn't say this is from the portal...because this happened to me many times before in life from school, long before the portal was even an idea.

I have resumed the spinning of the day code, and will be trying to catch up the tracks of the new year's map this weekend (which starts of the 26th of July for me). Because I have begun a new career, I've been readjusting and this has caused me to fall a little behind on my dream map...though catching up is very easy, because I've noted when I am not paying attention the dreams are less frequent, so blue starry nights to fill in the calendar take little time.

Since I've been spinning the day map for 12 days now, I had dreams the last two nights and this has brought this back to my attention, as I intend to spin 3 systems regularly, the day code, the dream code, and the language maps I am working hard to prepare. My state of consciousness is currently going through some very notable changes, and I am feeling stable enough to step it up and now add the dream spins...(I did discuss stability earlier...I can't even drink coffee these days without getting utterly loaded...I need to take very good care of myself to continue). I get a very good feeling that I will be able to break my previous record of 23 days spin, while at the same time adding the dream and language spins...

I am careful not to let my excitement throw me off balance...but it's there...I feel like jumping around and singing at times...

This weekend I'll have more time...

Until then,
Peace,
Jozen-Bo

**Code Name** · 08-21-2008 02:23 AM

Wow...i come back to this site to get back into lucid dreaming and I run into this....sounds interesting indeed....i dont have any means of getting the full sized map but ima print out a regular sized 2morrow and get into this...thanks!

**Jozen-Bo** · 12-10-2008 08:17 PM

Originally Posted by Code Name

Wow...i come back to this site to get back into lucid dreaming and I run into this....sounds interesting indeed....i dont have any means of getting the full sized map but ima print out a regular sized 2morrow and get into this...thanks!

I am going to be catching up on my dream map, I had a lot of things happen that slowed me down a little. This place appears to attract people who catch on very quickly. I need to make it a point to keep up here more. So much to do...

If you have any questions go ahead and post them away. Also, a database has finally been made where information is gathering, you can find out a lot more about the mind portal there:

http://themindportal.lefora.com/forum/

It is becoming more and more obvious each day that we are really on to something here. Figuring out exactly what it is and how to use it is part of the challenge, because no one has ever done anything like this before on earth. I've been dreaming a lot more lately and realized how lost I was getting that I missed an area on the map. I'll catch it up and post it, that fuzzy blue area will be very obvious to anyone where I wasn't dreaming as much as I wasn't mapping as much either. After having the dreams appear consistently when I track and far less often when not, this is obviously working as a dream map!

**lucid4sho** · 12-11-2008 10:15 PM

Glad to see you're still around! I'm still using my map with great results. I too have some large gaps where I was slacking, its so hard to stay consistent at times. Have you had any more strange experiences. I have had a few, but still not warping any more. I feel like I'm getting closer tho. =)

**Jozen-Bo** · 12-14-2008 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by lucid4sho

Glad to see you're still around! I'm still using my map with great results. I too have some large gaps where I was slacking, its so hard to stay consistent at times. Have you had any more strange experiences. I have had a few, but still not warping any more. I feel like I'm getting closer tho. =)

Likewise! I'll be around for a long time if I get old...depending on how old I get...

I've been having interesting experiences with the map, I am going to spend some time today getting my dream map caught up. I've been spinning the day code and observing how quickly it is effecting me on this 3rd phase, faster then the two previous phases. It appears to be unpredictable how long it takes to experience such, though I would say it is predictable that it will happen. Hard to explain the entire sensation, though seeing energy and feeling time slow are two of the easier parts to explain.

I haven't warped for some time either, I've been so busy. I suspect that it is brought on by various meditations that are used in conjunction with the calendar, while these mediations may yield results on their own, using the calendar speeds this up considerably. Still, the tracking has results of its own and so does observing the spin. Clarity will come more with time.

**Specialis Sapientia** · 12-15-2008 02:30 AM

Hi Jozen-Bo

I can see that you have spent your time wisely

I like to read your posts on these and other fora, they are quite inspiring.

I would very much like to come in contact with you, do you have a msn?

**Snowkitten** · 07-16-2009 08:02 PM

I think a mind portal is a very interesting idea.
I'll make one now!

**ReachingForTheDream** · 07-20-2009 02:28 AM

Just out of curiosity, what is your "code"? Is it basically drawing out your dream, or using drawings to symbolize things and feelings in it?

**zeldafreak** · 07-23-2009 02:20 PM

Interesting. Very very interesting.

**nix_lb** · 08-01-2009 11:11 PM

Hey, anyone know where I can get a printable blank template? The one on the first post is too small.

**Jozen-Bo** · 08-06-2009 12:25 PM

Originally Posted by Specialis Sapientia

Hi Jozen-Bo

I can see that you have spent your time wisely

I like to read your posts on these and other fora, they are quite inspiring.

I would very much like to come in contact with you, do you have a msn?

I apologize for the long delay in replying, I was at a difficult time in my life right around the same time this post appeared, and was in the middle of moving. After moving I had problems with the phone and internet provider which took over 3 months to settle, during which time I had no phone nor internet. It was very frustrating.

Now I am back, I have both phone and internet, and have fully grounded myself after such difficulties that I knew (since going into detail as to what those difficulties were would likely take a long time to clarify without leading to further confusion first, and since this would also be digressing from the topic of focus, I'll suffice that it is enough simply say there were difficulties).

Thus, I will be much easier to contact. There are a number of ways to do so, 1 is by posting any thoughts, questions, insights, ideas, or the such here on this forum, which is good because it keeps the thread alive and helps bring movement to the development of the mind portal. You can also e-mail me (if, for example, you have a question that is easier to ask this way) or find me on MSN under the name Jozen-Bo, though I am seldom on the chat box, I do check my e-mail and try to get back to anyone as soon as I can.

It is good to be back, and I will be around much more. Seeing that this has been one of the most productive threads on the net regarding this subject, I intend to make it one of my primary visiting places.

A brief update:

I stopped with my dream map during this difficult time, and now when I look at it I feel a sense of loss, I will likely not ever remember the dreams I forgot to record, most of them have gone into the recesses of my mind. I sorta feel more lost because of this, like a child wondering about not knowing where he is going. No point in crying over the past, I am looking to the future. I am picking up where I left off, newly invigorated, much more grounded, and much more centered. I am starting a new dream map, one for this year (which starts on the 26th of July for me...Mayan Time...)...I have a few days to back track and then I will be at present.

I will be much more consistent this time and go much deeper into the dream map, as I have noted that this works very well, it is extremely effective for inducing more dreams, longer dreams, and more vivid dreams. I have neglected this part of my mind too long now, so it is time to map it out and coordinate a deeper awareness of myself by getting into my dreams...not losing them. I will make sure that I keep this place updated as to how my progress goes...probably going to start something similar to the Trecena Reports I made...only focusing solely on the dream map and within the dream world.

**Jozen-Bo** · 08-06-2009 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by Snowkitten

I think a mind portal is a very interesting idea.
I'll make one now!

Thank You!

It can be easy to get distracted in this world we live in, so if you need any support feel free to ask for it. I will do whatever I can to make it easier to understand the map and how to use the map. If you have any questions, thoughts, or comments...you are welcome to post them.

Also, if you did make a map and use it...any feedback as to how your experience was would be greatly appreciated. Such feedback is very valuable to any others who don't know much about this, it helps to give them a better idea of what is happening.

Thanks again,
Jozen-Bo

**Jozen-Bo** · 08-06-2009 12:38 PM

Originally Posted by ReachingForTheDream

Just out of curiosity, what is your "code"? Is it basically drawing out your dream, or using drawings to symbolize things and feelings in it?

For the dream map, I use drawings to symbolize dreams. There are no formal rules, though there are lucid rules that I can change whenever I want. If I had a long dream with many different parts, I might take a symbol from each of those parts or a single feature that stood out amongst all of them and use that symbol or those symbols. It works great. I can remember nearly all of my dreams looking at the first dream map I had, even though I had those dreams long ago. Other dreams, dreams that I didn't record...I can't remember them. The feelings usually come along with the memory. If I can't remember the dream I can't remember the feeling of it either. I use other symbols in another code to cover feelings and emotions, though I don't do this for the dream map, the memory of the dream contains the feeling...though I might choose colors that help to convey that feeling and thereby induce the memory.

**Jozen-Bo** · 08-06-2009 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by zeldafreak

Interesting. Very very interesting.

Thanks!

If you ever have any questions or thoughts you'd like to share...feel free to do so!

Originally Posted by nix_lb

Hey, anyone know where I can get a printable blank template? The one on the first post is too small.

I'll leave a link where you can download the PDF and introduction manual for free:

http://themindportal.lefora.com/foru...ry-2-23/page1/

**Jozen-Bo** · 04-19-2010 07:53 PM

After moving, I sought to reestablish my internet and phone service. It took over three months. Last year was very difficult. Putting it aside I am happy to say I am back and that I am also resuming full throttle with the dream maps. I feel a strong sense that I ought to pick up with this, and last time found them to work extremely well. This time I will aim to try and find out the potentials, since I've never made it more then 30 or so days and since I observed that the results increased with time, I believe that this goes much further.

I will find out.