I'm losing my mind.

Recently, I've been trying to LD for 13 days, and I only ever got one. I've read lots of FAQs and use the techniques correctly for what the internet says. I do RCs multiple times a day (maybe 10 times or so. Whenever I remember), take b6, and sometimes melatonin, and I say "tonight I will lucid dream" over and over before bed. I've been trying to WILD for 4 days, but I can't keep my body still. I tried that dreaming .mp3 last night, bit I'm not completely sure how it works, so I haven't perused it further. I haven't lost hope, but I'm just so frustrated!! Any advice?

I feel ya, I've been tryin off & on for a couple years, and have never had a single one. :(

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Originally Posted by balljoint

Recently, I've been trying to LD for 13 days, and I only ever got one. I've read lots of FAQs and use the techniques correctly for what the internet says. I do RCs multiple times a day (maybe 10 times or so. Whenever I remember), take b6, and sometimes melatonin, and I say "tonight I will lucid dream" over and over before bed. I've been trying to WILD for 4 days, but I can't keep my body still. I tried that dreaming .mp3 last night, bit I'm not completely sure how it works, so I haven't perused it further. I haven't lost hope, but I'm just so frustrated!! Any advice?

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First advice is to remain calm and not want to LD so much. It dosen't help only creates stress....:P. The techniques that are on the turtorials and the net are generic and may not work for everyone. I had to do alot of modifications before I got afew LDs. Mixing and matching like a cocktail drink until I get the results...barely...:roll:. The best and most effective way I've used so far is doing dream rehearsal during WBTB, that is to literally create a dream situation of your choice before hand and acting it out during WBTB which eventually leads to a reality check. It has a 80% chance of working if you stick with it.

IMJ

i think the problem is you're switching techniques too frequently and not giving yourself time to actually modify it to suit you. it's only been like 2 weeks man, don't give up, and don't create unnecessary stress because that will delay the time it takes for you to become lucid. try WBTB, my best lucids so far are from that. what i did was wake up an hour before i usually would (it varies) and stay up for an hour watching and reading things that would inspire me to become lucid, and while falling asleep i keep thinking to myself that i'll be lucid.

hope this helps, and don't think about too much!

As forgotten dream said, the problem is your constant changing of methods! you have GOT to calm down. Lucid dreaming is NOT meant to be stressfull but a calm, peacful and highly enjoyable way of dreaming.

I have been trying to WILD 2-3 days a week for the past 3 months and i have only ONCE came close to entering a dreamstate, that involved the shudders, extremely loud noise and HI.

I used to be like you, getting all frustrated but take pleasure in even remembering your normal dreams, finding multiple dreamsigns and also sticking to a method. 3 months on and i will still continue to try to WILD.

The most important thing is to never give up and remeber that you have 365 chances a year in about 80+ years! thats (gets calculator)... 29200+ potential lucid experiences in a lifetime!!!

Stressing over it will not work. When I first started out, I had more lucids taking breaks from any methods than I did actually using the methods. XD

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Originally Posted by balljoint

I say "tonight I will lucid dream" over and over before bed.

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Try putting the phrase into the present tense and in the form of an order, e.g. "I lucid dream". Take time and space out of the equation. Repeat at least 40 times when you fall asleep and also again when you wake up. Believe that it is already a reality when you say/think it. Don't simply repeat it. Make sure its the very last thing you think about as you fall asleep. It may work better on your subconscious that way but don't expect immediate results.

Thanks for the advice, to all of you... I have been paying attention to my regaler dreams, until last night which was irritatingly dreamless (maybe it'll come to me later in the day) I've had at least one a night. I know being stressed about it is plain old pointless, but it kinda comes from with in, you know? I'm just overwhelmingly desperate to see a friend in my dream, and wanting it so bad, I thought would help it come sooner (the whole you have to want it, and believe it thing), but I guess completely being stressed about it is only going to stunt lucid dreaming (though like I said, I can't control my stress :oops:).

My plan for tonight is to just try saying "I lucid dream" as I fall asleep, and no other technique, and see if it comes to me.... Like I said, thanks again.

Try the FILD technique. It seems to be a technique somewhat unknown to newbies but I had two in one day from doing it. It was my second and third try!

http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...highlight=fild

It's at least the one that works for me. Good luck!

i've been down the same road so i know how you feel. first, relax with the WILD because i'd say it is harder to accomplish a WILD before using other techniques to trigger a lucid while sleeping or wbtb. second, if your discouraged about trying to get lucid just because your statistics about not having one in the past 13 days or so just try and ignore that. say to yourself that lucid dreaming is easy, you know how it feels since you had one so just go after it. tell yourself its just a different state of mind and imagine the feeling as much as you'd like before you go to bed and during the day. it is important to prove to yourself it is easy more than anything. try MILD and state to yourself and actually think about it everytime you say it "next time i'm dreaming, i will rememeber i'm dreaming" as you fall asleep and let it be the only thing you really focus on untill your unconscious. when i did all this at once i broke my dryspell with 2 lucids in one night. i got this info from stephen laberge's book "exploring the world of lucid dreaming" and i really worked for me

you are not losing your mind. just relax. for 2 weeks and one lucid already, you're off to a FANTASTIC start! just keep it up. keep a DJ, write in it everymorning. even if u can only sum up a few words or thoughts/feelings. stick to one technique for a while, until you are sure it isnt the correct technique for you. find out what ticks your brain when it comes to dreaming-whether its seeing hypnagogic imagery, HEARing hypnagogic imagery (yes. u still call it HI... i think. =p correct me if im wrong), or trying to feel tactile things. you will get it... trust me.

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Originally Posted by balljoint

Recently, I've been trying to LD for 13 days, and I only ever got one. I've read lots of FAQs and use the techniques correctly for what the internet says. I do RCs multiple times a day (maybe 10 times or so. Whenever I remember), take b6, and sometimes melatonin, and I say "tonight I will lucid dream" over and over before bed. I've been trying to WILD for 4 days, but I can't keep my body still. I tried that dreaming .mp3 last night, bit I'm not completely sure how it works, so I haven't perused it further. I haven't lost hope, but I'm just so frustrated!! Any advice?

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Do you keep a dream journal? I didnt think I needed one either but after keeping one for a couple months, its totally amazing what you learn.

Having Lucids isn't really about forcing a technique on yourself and trying really hard. Certainly you must put forth a good effort, but really try to feel the dream whatever it may be. Get familiar with this feeling of dreaming and then really vibe off of it through out your day and when getting ready for bed. I have to say that getting the feeling down of dreams is the most important part.

Some of the most basic things to do...
1) keep a dream journal (I know its a pain in the ass but you have to be [B]religious[B] about it!
2) get a into a regular sleep parttern, again a pain but must do it.
3) keep an open but skeptical mind. When you do you reality checks throughout the day don't just do them and then when they fail not think about it. Really take a moment and question your reality. Really ask your self "am I dreaming" stop and look around you, look at the people around you, is everything normal. Really be skeptical of your reality that the most important part!

Try smoking a joint of Mugwort before going to bed. This has increased the frequency of my lucid dreams immensely.