Rhythm WILD Experiment [Cancelled]

Written by ninja9578

Rhythm WILD Experiment

Hypothesis.

I hypothesize that by waking up and going back to sleep multiple times in rapid succession that it will result in a lucid dream (either WILD or DILD) 25% of the time with a confidence level of 95%.
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Theory

The technique will work by closing in mind and body in on that transition stage between sleep and awake and allow you to stay at that point and get their easily. Allowing you to either wake up easily, or fall into a WILD easily.

If done correctly, I don't think there should be any sleep paralysis, which makes it a great technique for those freaked out by it.

By doing a rapid fire awake, sleeping, awake, sleeping, over and over again, the mind and body will get ever closer to that transition stage every time that you wake up, making your sleep lighter and you waking time groggier. After a few cycles, you should be able to slip directly from the waking state into a dream without sleep paralysis.

The waking and sleeping acts sort of like a regressive sine wave in math. In this graph, say that the zero line is the transition place between sleeping and being awake.
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Here the first time you awake you come from deep sleep and wake up a lot, but the next time the difference is less, and it slowly moves in on hovering around that transition place, which makes it easy to go back and forth.

It kind of works like a DEILD, except your sleep is so light that there is no jerk and because you were just awake a few minutes ago, your memory of wanting to DEILD is very fresh.

Because of the extremely light sleep that will result after the technique, if the dreamer fails the WILD and drifts into a regular dream, the dream will be amazingly vivid and produce a high percentage of DILDs.

Experiment.

I will release an audio file with built in alarms. They will go off at 0:05, 18:05, 33:00: 44:55. From a preliminary study I have found this setup to be ideal.

The subject will also be given a download to an alarm program that can be programmed to play the file at the appropriate time. The subject may need to determine this exact time themselves, although for the average dreamer 4:30am should work.

The subject will wake up and fall back to sleep after each alarm. While falling back to sleep they may attempt to DEILD, but should not try to WILD as it takes time away from sleeping. They should focus on the intention not to move at the next alarm and try to DEILD.

On the last alarm, which will include a spoken command to lucid dream, the subject should attempt to either DEILD or WILD. After ten minutes or so, if the subject does not feel close to a WILD, they may go back to sleep, but they should not consider it a failure.

The vivid dreams resulting from being awoken and going back to sleep may produce a DILD. The subject may say that this was a result of the technique if it happened within half an hour of the last alarm.
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Subject Feedback

Subject should report back to this thread every day. They should include whether or not they had lucid dreams between alarms (and, if they can remember, which ones), whether they had a WILD or DEILD after the final alarm, and whether or not they had a DILD after the final alarm. All lucid dreams cause by the technique should be reported, as well as nights where the technique failed to produce a lucid dream.

To keep the thread clean, I will merge all posts by a single subject into one. This will allow the public to see exactly how each person reacted to the technique without having to sift through pages of posts. To avoid potential confidence boosts or lulls, those merged posts will be hidden from the public until the end of the study.

The subject should try and perform this technique every night for at least 2 weeks and try and report back every day.

Another group may perform this experiment only on weekends, but I would like at least 3 weeks in those cases.

In a priliminary post volunteering for the study, the following information will be required:

• Lucid dream count
• WILD (or any derivative) count
• DILD (or any derivative) count
• Current lucid dream rate (# / month)
• Current WILD rate (# / month)
• Current DILD rate (# / month)
• Any lucid aids being take (B6 / melatonin...)
• Gender

Approximations are fine.
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Materials

Alarm Clock 2 (Mac)

• First, load the iTunes AAC file (129KB) into iTunes.
• Download and install.
• Start the program, in the menu bar click on the alarm clock icon.
• Click preferences. In the General tab where is says "Kill alarm after:" Slide the slider to 45 minutes, depending on how light of a sleeper you are, you may want to change the volume too.
• Now in the easy wake take, uncheck the box that says "Use Easy Wake by default," we don't want that.
• In the advanced tab, check the box that says "Launch Application at login"
• If you put your computer to sleep during the night, then you also want to check "Wake computer from sleep"
• Now close that window and go back to the menu from the icon.
• Click on new alarm.
• In the alarm time section, put the time that you want to start the technique (4:30am works well for me)
• Click on the radio button that says "Repeating alarm" and select the days that you want the alarm to go off. For most of you, this will be every day.
• In the Alarm tab, "Experiment" and use that as the alarm. Make sure that the easy wake checkbox is NOT checked. Now you're done.

Jakes MP3 Alarm Clock (Microsoft Windows)

• Download the Universal MP3 file (232KB)
• Download the alarm clock
• Set it to play the MP3 file
• Have it automatically turn off the alarm after 45 minutes
• Set the alarm to go off when you are in REM sleep, or just before. (4:30am works for me)

Cron (Linux)

• Download the Universal MP3 file (232KB)
• Follow the instructions on the web page

Data / Results.

I'm currently looking for subjects. All who would like to help out, post here and I'll send out the files you will need tomorrow. Please follow the guidelines as strictly as possible. Don't worry about lost sleep, you shouldn't loose more than 10 minutes, so this can be done during the school year. Anyone who wants to help post here with the information that I've asked for.

Note: As I said, your posts will probably disappear, that means that I've got them, not that you've been rejected. I think for this thread I have to approve posts before they are shown. I will not until the experiment is finished. :)

108 LDs
17 WILDs
89 DILDs
6 LDs / Month
1 WILDs / Month
5 DILDs / Month
None
Male

I'll volunteer for this study, just on weekends and time off until I become used to the sleeping schedule. I know this isn't in the list, but it might be good to add a bit on using this technique occasionally to the final results.

* Lucid dream count - 3
* WILD (or any derivative) count - 0
* DILD (or any derivative) count - 3
* Current lucid dream rate (# / month) - 0
* Current WILD rate (# / month) - 0
* Current DILD rate (# / month) - 0
* Any lucid aids being take (B6 / melatonin...) - Apple Juice on occasion
* Gender - Male

I'm down to give it a go!

I'm not getting a job until next month, so I have all the time in the world. And I've been interested in trying new techniques.

Ok, let´s do it! I like the teory...

Lucid dream count 14
WILD (or any derivative) count 7
DILD (or any derivative) count 7
Current lucid dream rate (# / month) 3
Current WILD rate (# / month) 1
Current DILD rate (# / month) 1
Any lucid aids being take (B6 / melatonin...) none
Gender male

Ps: I´ll do it at week days but i only be able to report my results at the weekend no problem?

I wasn't able to download the mp3 due to internet issues, so I set my phone's alarms to approximately the times posted. I was unable to fall asleep after the first alarm, which threw off the timing for subsequent ones. I did not have a lucid dream, but it is probably best to throw out these results if you only want data if the person falls asleep on time.

This experiment is cancelled, sorry :(

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Originally Posted by ninja9578

This experiment is cancelled, sorry :(

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Does the method not work or the computer program?

I try this now and then with my cell phone attached to my hand.. I need to work to focus each time I wake up though.

The method and the program work (I had plenty of lucid dreams with it,) but I've determined that it wasn't working the way that I thought it was. I don't think it's the moving in and out of consciousness that causes ease of DEILDing, it's the affirmation that you want to so close to the attempt. I currently can't find a way to determine if it's the closing in on the conscious barrier or the time frame of the affirmation.

The only way that I could think of doing that would be measuring brain activity with an EEG machine and DV doesn't have access to those :tongue:

This method breaked my nearly one month dry spell, i had one FA converted to LD and another DILD.

When i waked first i tried to DEILD, then to FILD and finally WILD. Finally when i waked at middle of night again, i did a random RC(noise RC) and i was dreaming!


Another fulcral thing to report, I had plenty of FAs, i recorded 3(include my LD).

This method does work. But in order for it to be science I have to know why it works. I'll send the initial results and the theory to dr laberge. He has access to an eeg.

I bet he has access to many EEGs. :boogie: This method works by dissociating REM sleep. Again I'm playing with this since 1997.

I cant' remember which paper was but I've read that sudden audio clues trigger PGO activity. May be one from Tore Nielsen. He has some good articles on sleep mentation and sleep onset that you should check out.

The PGO theory seems plausible for me since I often feel movement in my ear (middle ear muscles) and a blow in my solar plexus (don't ask) when disturbed in clear sleep.

There is no need to make this a science, just use it.