Dreamer Types?

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09-13-2008, 06:32 AM
Oneirity Rising

Dreamer Types?

Sorry about the ambiguous title; I couldn't think of a better term.

A thought occurred to me yesterday: is it possible that there are several, or even many, different types of people/dreamers, so that everyone falls into one type or the other?

Here's my thinking: Let's say Person 1 (a fairly, or even completely, inexperienced lucid dreamer) were to describe what works and doesn't work for them in regards to having lucid dreams (as far as they have discovered, at least), as well as more general things like how they dream, as well as perhaps a few other personal details related to dreaming.

Theoretically, Person 2 could come along and say, "Hey, I might as well have written that, it describes me so well." If this is the case, Person 2 could share with Person 1 what works and what doesn't for them, and Person 1 would then be on a faster track to discovering methods of attaining lucidity that would work well for him/her.

In addition, Person 2 might be able to explain various methods or details in a way that Person 1 will understand more easily, as they will probably think about them in similar fashions.

Thoughts? Did I make any sense? Has anyone found this to be true or work? Or not work? Or has it not really been investigated?
09-13-2008, 06:46 AM
imj

It is true...something I have been wanting to say but can't say it properly without not making sense. There are different dreaming schemes too from what I see on the forum in contrast to mine. Just conciousness dreams, no body involved just awareness and the more common as in reality dreams. Getting to know what dream scheme the person has helps in what method to use. To me the best tech is one that does not require the user to adapt his lifestyle to suit it. It should utilize the existing thought pattern of waking life and dream habits of the person.

IMJ
09-13-2008, 01:16 PM
PuppyCat

Lol at imj- is your post a joke?
09-13-2008, 02:58 PM
imj

I don't joke when I post this long...:P. It's hard not to sound like a joke..:roll:.

IMJ
09-13-2008, 05:03 PM
Shift

I am very open to such a possibility but... you are just talking about inexperienced lucid dreamers. Once they have more experience, those things won't be the case anymore... To me LDing seems to be more about personal mental blocks, disposition, self-esteem, motivation, and dedication, bravery and/or foolishness, plus a little bit of generic cultural or physical or physiological inhibition. So I'm not sure about how these are types of dreamers. It seems like you are just talking about the common problems that people experience. Sure, people have different influences and mindframes and experiences. Someone who has spent their whole life longing to fly is probably going to do well in a lucid, while someone a little less enthusiastic might be hampered by gravity spilling into their dreams. But down to the core, probably the problem with dream control is all about HOW lucid you are, and how good your dream confidence is. Besides that, I don't think there are necessarily common problems that are clean-cut and can be used to divide the problems people have with LDing.

And... sharing the knowledge to circumvent these common problems? http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...isplay.php?f=4 < Dreamviews' lucid dreaming forums. Because just because someone had the same problem as you, doesn't mean that their method is going to work for you. That is the #1 thing I've learned from the forums.

Of course people have different learning styles, like visual, social, auditory, physical, whatever. But I'd still be hesitant to lump people into categories.

If I were going to say something about the "Types" of lucid dreamers I would probably classify them as what they primarily view their dreams for.
There are the people who want to get in touch with their subconscious for personal or spiritual enlightenment, there are the people who want to use them to have super powers and just have fun, there are the people who want to get in touch with their creative side and use dreams as inspiration for art, there are the people who want it to visit people they no longer can, there are the people who just want to have sex, there are the people who just want to use it for science, etc. etc. etc. etc., and of course it's impossible to say that there are types of lucid dreamers in this context because these all overlap.

Still if you could provide more substance of your theory, I would love to read it!!!
09-13-2008, 05:46 PM
Oneirity Rising

Brace yourself; this post just kept going...

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Originally Posted by Shift

I am very open to such a possibility but... you are just talking about inexperienced lucid dreamers. Once they have more experience, those things won't be the case anymore... To me LDing seems to be more about personal mental blocks, disposition, self-esteem, motivation, and dedication, bravery and/or foolishness, plus a little bit of generic cultural or physical or physiological inhibition. So I'm not sure about how these are types of dreamers.

I notice now, in the morning, that I didn't really explain part of it very well - theoretically, the whole point of identifying who has what dreaming characteristics (such as, for example, I sleep around 9 hours per night, I can't concentrate at all just after waking up, attempting to WILD gives me unpleasant dreams, etc.) is so that others with similar characteristics can come along and suggest which single one, or possibly two, methods of attaining lucidity might work best.

Because personally, if I could find one single method that worked at least a fair amount of the time, it would be quite a while before I felt the need to try any others. I don't want to call it a shortcut, but it could be a way to more reliably have lucid dreams faster.

So while I could work very hard at many different methods, it seems to me that it would be better to work hard at one or two before eventually achieving success.

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Originally Posted by Shift

Because just because someone had the same problem as you, doesn't mean that their method is going to work for you. That is the #1 thing I've learned from the forums.

Ah, this is what I'm getting at. But I'm not trying to focus on problems - with inexperienced dreamers, the biggest common problem is that they can't attain lucidity very often, if at all.

Would your statement also hold true, do you think, if we didn't just lump people with the same problem together, but we looked at people whose dreaming experiences are similar together?

For example: let's say you take a whole bunch of kids who want to learn to play (American) football. They all have the same problem - they're new and they're not very good at it, even though some of them have natural talent just waiting to come out. They also all have the same goal - to become good football players.

Now, the first thing you have to do is assess the physical characteristics of each kid. This one is tall, and fast, and has good hands. This one is very well built, a little slower, but is very strong.

Instead of having each kid try each position to see which they're best at, you would send the first one to the wide receivers and the second to either the offensive or defensive line. That way, others with similar physical characteristics will be able to help that kid achieve their goal - becoming a good football player - more quickly and without needless mucking around in areas that aren't going to help much.

So to bring this back to the topic (and make this post even longer), if we could somehow identify, based on dreaming characteristics (for lack of a better term at this point), which methods of attaining lucidity would work best, then many individuals would achieve success (having lucid dreams at at least a semi-reliable rate) faster.

Theoretically.