Not a good visualizer? Try a storyline.

This helped me a lot since I don't visualize that great. Here goes:

When falling asleep after a WBTB or after 4-6 hours of sleep (the sleepier the better). You start doing a type of VILD but with a story twist. You can imagine a narrator plotting your next moves, like this:

then he turned the corner to find a gas station where he would meet a girl named Sandy who would tell him where he could find the missing part for his car.

So, now you have a target and a motivation to act. The next 5 seconds where you walk towards the girl are taken care of and visualization won’t be as hard. When you meet this girl, you just have to come up with what she will say and then act on that, and so on.

As you get caught up in the story, the visualization will become richer and easier to get into. You just have to be creative enough to figure out the first steps and then the story will take over.

At this point (as immersion grows), you might gauge if you want to start a FILD or MFG or do an RC in LA or NYC with B.B. King.

Thanks for this I will give it a try tonight.
:)

Wow, that sounds much easier than trying to visualize something, i find it quite hard so I'll try this.

I do this sometimes. It helps me fall asleep. Be sure to include narrations such as "I reality check by re-reading the gas station sign. It changes, so I know that I am not in reality." If you don't reaffirm reality checks, you will probably lapse into non-lucidity.

Great tip Abra!

Interesting tip, seems very helpful. I already do a form of this but I never did it in third person I don't believe. We'll see what effect it has.

Good idea. I have problems visualizing too. Although sometimes I have vivid visualizations when laying down (presumably extremely short dreams?) that last a few seconds and as soon as I notice them I snap out of it.

i'll try this out, although i'm okay at visualizing, this seems fun.

I tried this last night, my storyline Invovled me going to my local
Rafa club and meeting some people there.

The result was a brief Lucid of me being in the said club.
I was quite supprised at the success of this method esspecially
on my first attempt, I will have another try tonight.

Cheers for posting this.
:)

I tried editing my first post to include Abra's tip about including Reality Check's into the storyline, but it didn't work. I think it's pretty important.

I did the technique again last night but was too tired to actually give it a fair go.

I really like this story idea holo
And nice tip Abra.

Usually I have trouble getting rid of internal dialogue, at least now I can redirect quite nicely :)

Great idea. Believe it crossed my mind before to narrate myself into a dream, bu the problem is: I am very easilily distracted. Even at daytime.

Perhaps it helps if in the storyline you imagine a very urgent task for yourself with very negative consequences if you're distracted and neglect your task.

Sometimes it works wonderfully as the narrator gets detached automatically. I would make the whole storyline a big reality check imagining that you are trying to prove the people around you that you are all in fact dreaming.

You may also want to read up on image streaming and Steve Mensing's chant visualization.

Last night my thoughts were very jumbled and incoherent. Couldn't stick to the storyline without being distracted into random thoughts every other minute or so.

Perhaps I should meditate a while before attempting this again tonight.

So people let's all follow this Topic through and report back results. This is a good topic. Let's stick to it and coöperate in it instead of posting 20 new threads and abandonning this one.

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Good idea. I have problems visualizing too. Although sometimes I have vivid visualizations when laying down (presumably extremely short dreams?) that last a few seconds and as soon as I notice them I snap out of it.

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don't you love when that happens? They never make any sense either.
You are essentially jumping into a dream but you catch yourself right before you zonk out.

I will try!
thanks

I do something similar to this every night to beat my insomnia and fall asleep. Never really tried to use it as a lucid aid. I will now though :)

One question. When I do this I imagine myself in third person. Should I be trying in first person you think?

Third person is okay.