Right way to achieve a WILD

Hi, I hope I posted this in the right area. Oh, and sorry in case I make a lot of mistakes, I'm Dutch so I do have a pretty good excuse. :P

I'm 15 years old and I became really interested in lucid dreams about a few months ago. I started writing in a dream journal and doing reality checks. It didn't really work for me though. I'm kind of a messy person so I used to forget about the reality checks and journal half of the time, which is kind of frustrating when you realise it because I did really want to have LD. Besides, and this is kind of hard to explain... I often feel like I do not [I]experience[I] my dreams. More like waking up with memories of what it felt like. As though it never is in the present. So I found it hard to imagine myself realising I'm in a dream when not ever realising anything at all before waking up with these new memories.
Plus I have never had any difficulties remembering my dreams, they've always been pretty clear to me...
So I read more about it and decided to try for WILD. I think this method will work better for me because I know immediately whether it worked or not and because I won't forget it.

I have tried to achieve a WILD for... I think almost ten times now, the results are quite different. (I did always try to get a WILD directly instead of waking myself up because I usually get up quite early and I don't want to be exhausted for school.) Like last night; I was lying in my bed counting 'A - apple, B - balloon, C - cat' etcetera. My body started to feel like I would sink into my bed and two or three times it felt like a bright light shone right into my eyes which disappeared very quickly. I tried it for over an hour. Then I got up and drank some water, tried it over from the beginning. Again for over an hour and finally I decided to go back to sleep because it wasn't going to work.

My question; is it really necessary to get up while trying a WILD? I don't really mind about that, but if possible I don't want to stay up for 30 to 60 minutes. I read somewhere that three minutes is sufficient already, is this true? And somewhere else they claimed that WILDs are all about directly entering the REM - does this mean there is a certain amount of hours you've got to sleep before waking up? I've read three hours, four, six...
All together; are there rules or can you just work out what works best for you, and does it pay off to "practice" WILDs even when you start at it the time you normally go to bed without sleeping first?

Thanks a lot! Iris

Hello :D

I have never WILDed succesfully. But I´ve had a half-WILD exp and an accidental WILD a long time ago, and now I´m trying to really WILD. I have a WILD Diary too, it´s in my sig.


So, then your question about staying up. I´m trying to figure out the balance myself too. But sorry, my teacher came to complain about my posting, gonna post later, bye :D:D

OKAY, TEACHER :D:D


EDIT: Okay, I got sick and I came back to my home. Time to WILD. But back to your question about staying up. If you think that you cant get back to sleep in about 20 minutes, you can shorten the time you are awake. I personally just wake up for 3 minutes, and at the time stare at the ceiling with lights off. That is all you need.

The chances of doing WILD directly when you go to bed is like %10. I just made it up to indicate its difficulty. Believe me, trying it after 4-5 hours of sleep is much more easier. You were staying up 30-60 min (like torture) because you just went to bed. All of my WILDs happened with the same method which is waking up 4-5 hours later, staying up 5 min., getting back to bed and simply doing nothing although you need to be aware not to lose consciousness. They happened 5-10 min after I went back to bed. If they won't happen after 20 min., just sleep. You don't lose any sleep. It is a win-win situation.

Thanks for your reactions! :D
I'm going to try it again tonight... problem is that my father sleeps a lot lighter than I and I definitely don't want him to wake up from my alarm clock while I'm still having sweet dreams, haha.

Set the alarm on your cell, vibration. That might help :)

I hope this doesn't sound too silly but yes I'm 15 years old and I don't own a cellphone. :P

I do have this strange type of alarm clock, it's called wake-up lamp or something like that. So you wake up with a light growing brighter and brighter and bird's singing growing louder and louder. But I don't sleep very light so the birds have to be on the typ of their voice to bring me back to life, haha. I don't wake up from the light either I just don't sleep very light.

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Originally Posted by Magicgirlmoon

I hope this doesn't sound too silly but yes I'm 15 years old and I don't own a cellphone. :P

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Not at all. There are vibrating alarm clocks. You might get one.

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Originally Posted by roland3tr

The chances of doing WILD directly when you go to bed is like %10. I just made it up to indicate its difficulty. Believe me, trying it after 4-5 hours of sleep is much more easier. You were staying up 30-60 min (like torture) because you just went to bed. All of my WILDs happened with the same method which is waking up 4-5 hours later, staying up 5 min., getting back to bed and simply doing nothing although you need to be aware not to lose consciousness. They happened 5-10 min after I went back to bed. If they won't happen after 20 min., just sleep. You don't lose any sleep. It is a win-win situation.

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Fully seconded. Get sleep first. That relaxes your body (instead of using another relaxation method you'd have to learn first) and allows you to slip directly into REM.

I WBTB on accident from time to time. I've actually never done it on purpose. I can lump my lucids into 5 categories.

1. Getting woken up at an unusual hour during the night, then immedately going back to "sleep" (WBTB)
2. Taking a nap during a time of day that I don't usually rest and in an unusual location - like a couch I never sleep in or something (?)
3. Sleeping at a usual time, but in an unusual location
4. Realize I am dreaming through a Reality Check ...the light switch in the dream didn't work, or something similar seemed funny and made me question reality - wow I'm dreaming! (I think they call this DILD or MILD)
5. I slip directly into lucidity with no loss of awareness. I intend to lucid dream, then I relax, become an observer of my thoughts and then when the time is right I begin to create a dream. My "third eye" (if you will) I can feel holding the observing awareness...which gets tiring if I try too hard. (WILD)

I think you were talking about the WBTB technique,...however, I could say many things about how to WILD.
With the WBTB (Wake-back-to-bed) technique....I wouldn't worry about it too much. Go to sleep, then set an alarm for...3am or 4am then immediately GENTLY go back to sleep. Do not get excited, do move your body as little as possible - as it is very relaxed...and, in my belief, a good deal of your awareness is not in your body at that moment - it is in another body (energy body)...if you let too much of your energy come back into your physical body, it may be difficult to go Lucid....infact, it sort of defeats the purpose of the technique.