My personal way of achieving lucidity

This won't work for everyone, only those who are capable to getting into this state.

I have a common disorder know as "sleep paralysis", a disorder that stops you from being able to move upon waking from sleep, or as you go to sleep. Most people with this disorder do everything they can to avoid this state, as it can be the most horrifying experience of your life. And I'm not even exaggerating. The first time this happened to me, I was convinced that my soul was about to be eaten alive by demons, while all I could do was lay there helpless. Anyway, if you are able to induce this disorder, then inducing a lucid dream is a peice of cake. Here's what you need to do:

1) You need to be fatigued/sleep deprived. Sleep paralysis is a DISORDER. The reason I can get SP everytime I try is because I can feel if I'm mentally fatigued enough beforehand. There is a certain "brand" of fatigue that is perfect for inducing SP. You would think that staying up for a long period of time would be the key, but it hasn't ever worked like that for me, as I fall asleep the second I close my eyes. What I do is wait until I'm really tired, fall asleep for two hours, force myself to wake up and stay up for another 8 hours, and repeat until I've finally reached the ideal point of fatigue. The trick is to fuck up your sleeping patterns.

2) The best position is to be on your back. It can be done with any position, but this is the best position to be in because it's easiest to feel separate from your body. I will often twist my neck into an uncomforrtable position to feel even more separated from my body.

3) When you feel SP coming, close your eyes and focus on any auditory or visual halucinations. Don't be afraid, just absorb yourself in whatever you see/hear. Think of the halucinations as like a portal to the dream world. If you focus on them, they will take you to dreamland. And believe me, I've had lucid dreams outside of SP, and they don't even compare. Once you open yourself up to the world of SP induced LDs, you're going to have to fight the urge to sacrfice your real life for the most realistic fantasies you could imagine.

I apologize of this post is incoherent, but I'm extremely fatigued, and on my way to another SP experience

I'm so glad that someone has posted about this! THanks Jesterfoot! I've done this before when I was attempting a FILD actually. I went through the SP and did indeed had an LD. And yes just as you said the most realistic fantasy ever.
I thought that that one LD I had was just some crazy anomaly that I would never be able to achieve again. But its so nice to hear that someone else has experienced that.
Or perhaps its just that I never was able to really describe what it like.

Could you include some more about the transition into the dream from SP. How do you not just fall asleep? When ever I try to focus so much on auditory/visual halucinations I just pass out.

Is it a state of having your mind awake but your body very tired?

Well it's alot easier to get into the dream from the sleep paralysis state, because you're already half asleep. For me, I get extreme auditory hallucinations. It sounds like my ears are being electrocuted and it's LOUD and I couldn't stop it if I wanted to. I just focus on the sounds until visuals start to appear. Then I focus on the visuals as hard as I can while trying to forget about my physical body. Before you know it you'll be in a completely different world.

Woah I am going to try this as soon as possible. As for that mental fatigue I have so many ways to induce this, go online and find some random SAT prep test or something of that sort, and TRY try your hardest. I find when concentrating really hard I forget about my body and go to another plain of awareness, like in my calculus class, if I really get focused, it feels as if it were a dream.

All it takes is an hour or so, (the harder you think about the problems at hand, the sooner your mental stamina will run dry), this is why after finals I usually come home and crash on the couch.

Remember that there are two types of tiredness, mental and physical. Use whichever you can to your lucid dreaming advantage.

It comes back to what you think SP is again.
Whether you think its the light tingles and numbness of the body,
or if its the full electric shock treatment tightening your torso completely.
Now I call it the latter, and we can't all just wait for SP every night, it aint that regular.
IMO.

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Originally Posted by Jesterfoot

The first time this happened to me, I was convinced that my soul was about to be eaten alive by demons

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I find this so fascinating because this is EXACTLY what I thought was happening the first time. Well, not literally eaten, but definitely being sucked out of my body. Are you born-again by chance?

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Originally Posted by Echoes

I went through the SP and did indeed had an LD. And yes just as you said the most realistic fantasy ever.

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According to this article, Dreaming and REM sleep: Not the Same Thing, non-REM dreams reflect ordinary, waking thought - so much so that some will disbelieve they are even asleep. If this textbook can be trusted, it would explain the realness of an LD following SP.

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Originally Posted by Ryann

I find this so fascinating because this is EXACTLY what I thought was happening the first time. Well, not literally eaten, but definitely being sucked out of my body. Are you born-again by chance?

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Same thing with me. It was years before I knew what it was, it wasn't very nice! I read somewhere that people tend to interpret it as being whatever is most frightening to them.

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Originally Posted by paragon

Same thing with me. It was years before I knew what it was, it wasn't very nice! I read somewhere that people tend to interpret it as being whatever is most frightening to them.

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Makes total sense. I was long obsessed with demons and not going to hell, so yeah, cool, I'm not the only one :D

Often or some ways of finding yourself in SP occur after having a lucid dream. In my case, lately if I failed to get an LD, I would usually end up in SP from time or again lol. Yes, there are hallucinations, like yesterday morning, the shadow of a tree from outside my window (I have no tree outside my window) on my wall was moving its branches like some fingers knitting or something. Yep...always a new experience..

I never hallucinated demons or anything scary before and if I did, I would just laugh, though I won't ever want something like that to happen. The whole thing is just funny, though annoying, and what makes it funny is the random stuff that is happening thats all in your mind. Did I say it's annoying?

Sorry for the guys that get scared from it, but just remember, its all in your mind and you control it (the hallucinations and stuff anyways).

Thats true malac, always a new experinece. My first bought with SP I had a camel standing at the foot of my bed wearing a blue and gold Burka talking me through the SP step by step. No demons though:? yikes!

It's strange that I seem to be the only person that didn't get freaked out the first time I had SP. I found myself awake in my bed, but unable to move (luckily no hallucinations I guess). It was a bit unnerving sure, but I just assumed it had something to do with me just waking up from dreaming (I'd never heard of SP or REM atonia before). After a few minutes of trying to move, it just decided to go back to sleep.

I almost always wake up in SP if I take a 3 hour nap 3 hours before my normal bed time, then fall asleep a second time after being awake for 3 hours or so. For best results, I need to wake up naturally after the first block and need to be sleepy at both times of falling asleep. It may work or not If I just force myself to sleep. ASP occurs during sleep onset, usually within 15 minutes.

There is nothing magical in it. No visual hallucinations anymore, just textured noises (most likely due to high theta activity in the temporal lobes). Sensed presence is still around somewhat and apparently inherent to this state. Persinger's hemispheric intrusion? Your own energy body? Visitor from other dimensions? It's all at the same time.