WILD - How close?

I've got to this stage several times and i don't know whether its SP or just something else.
I get to the stage where my saliva really starts to shit me, if i swallow everything starts again, if i don't swallow i get a feeling like pins and needles through my whole body, i lose feeling in my toes and i sometimes feel the need to take a leak (Its just a sensation..i don't really:P). Doesn't seem to go anywhere after that. Is this SP or just some sort of bodily reaction from me resisting the urge to swallow?

If you hit SP.... you will know my friend, you will know. You were almost there when your body kind of gets fuzzy. Then boom it hits. Or at least it does to me. If I have to swallow, I call it off. Drink some water and try again.

What happens if you hit sp at the start of your sleep period.....like non REM. Like is it black with no dream or still get some kind of HI?

Sleep paralysis happens in REM. Prevents the body from acting out.

Ahhh so thats why people do it after a wbtb so they dont have to wait through the other stages of sleep and go straight to rem?

You wouldn't be able to enter SP anyways lol. Well I guess some people can but they are like monks :P

Hmm so thats like saying dont bother trying to WILD when you first go to bed? :P

Yeah pretty much. I may be wrong though. Just not for beginners at least

Ok thanks alot for the help :cheers: Ill try some new stuff tonight :D

No problem.