Bizarre experience that I've never read anywhere else!!!

I hope someone could shed some light on this. I hope to trigger these experiences again, because they were interesting and fun.:boogie:

Basically I have a normal dream history of the 'average person'. I've allways had very psychadelic dreams, but the odd stuff only started happening when I was 20 years old.

I used to go on a bus from college that was old and the engine used to hum quite loudly. I can never usually sleep whilst traveling, but I always could on this one for some reason. Anyway, one day I was sitting my chair, looking around looking out of the window, when I realised my phycial eyelids were closed!!! Yes this was real and NOT a normal dream where you think you are awake when you're not. At first I couldn't believe it, becuase everything seemed real and normal, and I could hear the conversations going on around me from the other people on the bus. I thought how odd it was, that I could 'see' everything, but my eyelids were closed. I suppose I was in a heavy trance or something?

This experience was repeated several times until I learnt I could move my head and neck to look around. I then started to do this with my hands. Whilst I 'saw' throught my closed eyelids, I would hold my physical hands up to my face, open my eyes quickly, and my hand would be there, in front my face. I was doing it for real whilst having a dream.

I know that people control their dreams, and I know that people sleep walk, but I've never heard or read about someone being able to dream and control their physical bodies like this at the same time.:eek:

I was able to do something slimilar with hypnagogic imagery. Whilst listening to music I would fall into a trance state, and I would start to dream whilst awake and see REALLY WEIRD psychadelic stuff. Like weird faces, creatures, landscapes. It's happened to me before (like it happens to many people before falling alseep), the only difference with this is that I could talk out loud at the same time. I started to describe what I was seeing to my boyfriend, so he could then verify that I really had been talking clearly and coherently whilst supposedly n a trace.

I'd really like to work more with lucid dreams, and I would like to work with my strengths. Do you think I have a good ability to fall in to the theta brain wave stage? I just wandered what a good starting point would be for me?

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Originally Posted by Underworld_Artist

I hope someone could shed some light on this. I hope to trigger these experiences again, because they were interesting and fun.:boogie:

Basically I have a normal dream history of the 'average person'. I've allways had very psychadelic dreams, but the odd stuff only started happening when I was 20 years old.

I used to go on a bus from college that was old and the engine used to hum quite loudly. I can never usually sleep whilst traveling, but I always could on this one for some reason. Anyway, one day I was sitting my chair, looking around looking out of the window, when I realised my phycial eyelids were closed!!! Yes this was real and NOT a normal dream where you think you are awake when you're not. At first I couldn't believe it, becuase everything seemed real and normal, and I could hear the conversations going on around me from the other people on the bus. I thought how odd it was, that I could 'see' everything, but my eyelids were closed. I suppose I was in a heavy trance or something?

This experience was repeated several times until I learnt I could move my head and neck to look around. I then started to do this with my hands. Whilst I 'saw' throught my closed eyelids, I would hold my physical hands up to my face, open my eyes quickly, and my hand would be there, in front my face. I was doing it for real whilst having a dream.

I know that people control their dreams, and I know that people sleep walk, but I've never heard or read about someone being able to dream and control their physical bodies like this at the same time.:eek:

I was able to do something slimilar with hypnagogic imagery. Whilst listening to music I would fall into a trance state, and I would start to dream whilst awake and see REALLY WEIRD psychadelic stuff. Like weird faces, creatures, landscapes. It's happened to me before (like it happens to many people before falling alseep), the only difference with this is that I could talk out loud at the same time. I started to describe what I was seeing to my boyfriend, so he could then verify that I really had been talking clearly and coherently whilst supposedly n a trace.

I'd really like to work more with lucid dreams, and I would like to work with my strengths. Do you think I have a good ability to fall in to the theta brain wave stage? I just wandered what a good starting point would be for me?

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I have thought i had "seen through my eyelids before. I was really young but it was such a weird experience i can still remember it. Im not sure if it was myhyperactive imagination. or what it was. About the hallucination thing..i have them often before i fall asleep...or when im having good sex. seriously, good sex and i see yellow a lot..like sand..yellow light....or oncei sawa dark blue street with buildings. LOL

That has happened to me b4. I was in a friends dorm room in college dozing in and out. My eyes were closed but I could see the room! I eventually had an OBE that was the most amazing thing that has ever happened to me. That experience led me to dreamviews :D

This has also happened to me before. I just woke up, but decided to sleep some more. I got pretty relaxed and eventually I saw my room with my eyes closed. I wasn't really thinking though, and once I consciously noticed I guess the scene disappeared. It was pretty weird.

actually my first accidental LD was sorta like that- that is I could feel my eyelids closed and stuff was still happening in front of me. At fist I assumed all LD's were supposed to be like that.

I've actually done that by accident. It's one of the few non LD dreams I've had. Strange though because I manage to drive a good distance while dreaming. I kept at the speed limit, didn't weave or anything and still manage to notice the cars around me. When I realized I was dreaming I opened my eyes and freaked out. Yeah...thankfully no harm done.
I even manage to sleep in class and still take notes once.

It happens to me when I try to fight sleep. When I keep falling asleep and keep forcing myself to wake up. Eventually I lose track and can't remember if I'm falling asleep, waking up or actually asleep.

i get this when i try to go to sleep in class, I'm trying to not fully go alseep, but try to relax, so i'm waking my self up, but allowing myself to sleep, so at times i see an image appear, and i see my class mates and my teachers. but if i forcus on the image, it quickly dissapers.

That happens to me sometimes but as soon as I realize my eyes arent physically open the image disappears.

ya when u see taht kind of stuff (hypnogagic imagery), it means you're just ready to start dreaming.

i have had these expreicenece and it is strange and amazing. from alot of the studies ive done i feel the theta brain state is the best for many thinkgs such as healing and astral projection as well as deep mediation. you obviously have a natural talent so i think all the extra sensory expriecnes that humans can have may come very easy to you with teh right training, i wish you luck on your path to self discovery, thats what its all about, keep it up and always think deeper...

OK Kind of like Edgar Casey, he was able to enter a hypnotic state and dictate what he was thinking to his assistant. Extreme sleep deprivation does these kind of weird things to your head. Also "seeing with your eyes closed" is a bit like the effect some of us are experiencing - Knowing what time it is while dreaming, some kind of weird connection between the sleep and waking worlds. Would like to hear more about this.

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I've actually done that by accident. It's one of the few non LD dreams I've had. Strange though because I manage to drive a good distance while dreaming. I kept at the speed limit, didn't weave or anything and still manage to notice the cars around me. When I realized I was dreaming I opened my eyes and freaked out. Yeah...thankfully no harm done.
I even manage to sleep in class and still take notes once.

It happens to me when I try to fight sleep. When I keep falling asleep and keep forcing myself to wake up. Eventually I lose track and can't remember if I'm falling asleep, waking up or actually asleep.

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Remember kids, don't dream and drive!

Actually lol'd pretty hard when I read this post. :lol:

Sorry I didn't reply back to my own post! I didn't think I would get so many responses! I've been away from the forums for a while, and since this is the only post I've posted, I checked back on it. Thanks for all your views - it's nice to see other people have had the same thing! I think I only had it happend once again since I was 17. It was that particular bus that triggered it. I think it was a combination of boredom (the bus journey was about na dhour long), general fatigue (I'd just finished college for the day), and especially the droning noise of the bus. It made a loud humming sound that was very hypnotic. My mother used to say she used to switch on the hoover to get me to sleep when I was a small child.

Which brings me back to another very strange memory - of me levitating across the livingroom floor when I was about 3-4 years old. Yes I know it sounds crazy but now I think back on it it could have been an OBE or lucid dream.

Shouldn't this be in Dream Experiences?

Perhaps it's some form of pseudo-astral projection, where your consciousness becomes detached from your body and might allow you to see THROUGH your eyelids, in this case. I've had it happen to me once before (about two to three months back) when waking up in the afternoon. Assuming it was a spontaneous projection, it might have generated the mind split effect and you were, for a short time, existing consciously on two separate levels.

I've seen the same effect linked to the development of psychic abilities, but it's a far shot. Not too sure on the psychic side of things. Still, it's interesting. I'm wondering if a person can forcibly split their personality while projecting/dreaming, maybe with a left-brain/right-brain mental split.

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Perhaps it's some form of pseudo-astral projection, where your consciousness becomes detached from your body and might allow you to see THROUGH your eyelids, in this case. I've had it happen to me once before (about two to three months back) when waking up in the afternoon. Assuming it was a spontaneous projection, it might have generated the mind split effect and you were, for a short time, existing consciously on two separate levels.

I've seen the same effect linked to the development of psychic abilities, but it's a far shot. Not too sure on the psychic side of things. Still, it's interesting. I'm wondering if a person can forcibly split their personality while projecting/dreaming, maybe with a left-brain/right-brain mental split.

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That would make for an interesting dream task, split yourself into your different personalities and have a conversation with them all being a single one of your choosing.

Just wanted to say this freaked me out a bit reading this. I remember in a long car journey as a kid once, feelin pretty sleepy, I thought I had my eyes closed but could still see all the cars and everything out the window. I dunno, it's just stuck with me as one of those weird experiences.

wow i dont know why i never heard of this before but it sounds very interesting. i wonder if its trainable?

I fall asleep easily in a bus, but whenever I become lucid, I instantly wake up.