Wild Confusion

So I was reading about WILDS and I read that you should try to WILD right after you eat, mid day because this is a natural sleeping time for humans. Ok, so you lie down get comfortable and one article I read said that you can successfully enter a lucid dream via WILDing just minutes after lying down. But I am confused because I thought Laberge discovered that Lucid dreams were in REM only. And doesn't it take at least 90 minutes before you enter your first REM cycle? I just cant make sense of how you can start dreaming just minutes of lying down.

Most people seem to have natural REM cycles during the day. As you said, they tend to be right after eating. Late morning after breakfast, mid afternoon after lunch, and even evening after dinner. If you nap at the right time, you can launch directly into a dream. Just more reason to take tons of naps :lol:

I think the answer to your question is this:

When using the WBTB method, it IS possible to wake, stay up for a few minutes, lie back down, fall asleep quickly, and instantly enter an REM state.

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"For most people, they are far easier to induce in the early morning after waking up or in
afternoon naps, as the sleep cycle will continue with a REM period. Once you are
experienced with inducing WILDs, you can try to induce them at other times."

....I'm guessing your source is either (a)very proficient at WILDing or (b) talking about WILDing in the sense of using it with WBTB.

...I'm not too adept at the WILD attempt, as I've only been able to achieve it with WBTB, so I have no advice towards option (a)

So for the mid day naps it is much easier to enter REM than when you are going to bed for the night? And for WILDing, what is it like? I can't even imagine how cool that has to be. I have had plenty of LDs, but moslty from WB2B. I haven't WILDed yet, but that must be so cool.

Yea, well I guess I have WILDed too if you are talking about WB2B. But thats after I have slept a few hours already. As a college student, I am very intrigued by the fact that I can get back to my dorm after Biology and minutes later be in a lucid dream.

I was just considering this too, nike.

I don't think I've ever been up for more than an hour and instantly went into REM.

I have, on quite a few occasions, went to work for my 2-3 hour shift, took a nap as soon as I went home and have an LD exactly 90 minutes into my sleep, WBTB/WBTB-WILD, and re-enter a dream lucidly.

I was contemplating that perhaps it is easier/quicker to enter REM with the less waking hours you have...interesting.

I do know for a fact though that going back to bed asap increases your chances of instant-REM'ing or whatever