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the point is to increase your CHANCES for lucid dreaming. not necessarily to increase the NUMBER of them. most people that use this would be more appealed to the first one. if you can get two lucid dreams a night then by all means share what you do :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dying Dignity
thanks man. Thats what I waited for xD
Stole the words out of my head before I could post them. XDQuote:
Originally Posted by FluBB
Indeed, LDing shouldn't be a very daunting thing. The shear amount of discussion that goes on about it and the number of various techniques people get to work for themselves will make it look daunting, but the simple fact is that LDing isn't as daunting in reality as it might seem while you're wading through all the information there is about it, particularly on DV. It's all about finding what works for you: for me, excessive (10+ hours) sleep into the morning is how I do it. No tricks, no frills.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taromon777
Thanks for this! I think that's been my problem -overthinking the whole concept of LDing.
That's funny you should say that, the closest I've ever got to LDing is when I've gone back to sleep in the morning! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Clyde Machine
Yeah? I've been having trouble LDing even with my excessive sleep amounts, but I've had a busy week, which I've noticed attributes to a decline in clarity of dreams, and fewer overall recalled dreams.
I can really attest to relaxing before bed and sleeping a lot. Not only makes for more restful sleep, reduces nightmares and stress dreams, but also makes it much easier to get lucid. :)
Gah, I guess the simplicity thing is true.
I haven't LDed in about a month. Since then I've had very many vivid dreams, been aware as much as possible, made sure I used RCs and dream signs and my DJ, sleeping more, and yet still not a single lucid since freakin christmas break. I guess I just gotta go with the flow.
Have you tried (or do you have the opportunity anytime soon to) get an excessive amount of sleep one particular morning? Best advice I can give, I'm afraid.Quote:
Originally Posted by ReachingForTheDream
You make a very good point billybob. I think I'll try this simple way of getting lucids for a while.
thanks for this list. i don't have much rhyme or reason as to why some dreams are more vivid or crazy than others. but i can sleep in from time to time, and that really helps!
Yea, on weekends I often get more than enough sleep. I used to be decent at DEILDing (usually 6 at a time if it was a good morning :D) but I seem to have lost it. I think it's been about a month since my last LD. I must say I've been disappointed with my last few days too. A whole long weekend, and then I've been sick for a few too so I've gotten to stay home and sleep all I want. I have to say, I'm having a hard time figuring out exactly what I gotta do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Clyde Machine
Well, this is a refreshing look at it all! While I've been using this site sporadically for around a year, always finding it a respectful and useful source, I am often overwhelmed by the (what I find to be) overly in-depth techniques and technical details. More than anything, they'd stress me out, and cause my already elusive dreams to be more difficult to "work" with. Now I've tried "doing things my own way" and only using some of the typical Dreamviews advice, and combined with increased focus and willpower, it's working. I also follow some the points you made there.
oh yes.
Inducing LD shouldn't be hard or stressing.
It should be fun.
I simplified my practice, and it's so simple that's working!
before, when I tried the complicated method, I became totally frustrated. but now, even if I don't have inmediate success...I'm still motivated! I keep practicing! this is great!
Great post. I began having LDs after I started keeping a dream journal for fun. The journal and getting enough sleep seemed to work pretty well for me. That was many years ago. Of course now after reading LaBerge's book and info on the internet, I have been feeling overwhelmed with the various techniques. I do have a much clearer understanding of it all. But I'm all about going back to a simple approach.
Anyway, thanks for the post! Just what I needed.
Hey Mariano, could you please briefly explain in a nutshell your current successful methods. I'm interested in your progress.
Cheers.
bushi:
I'm currently on day 8 on this simple practice.
this is what I do:
-Training my prospective memory until it becomes perfect(I'm becoming slowly better and better)
-When first going to bed review all my day....
-"If I see one dreamsign I will become lucid, or if I have a bit of awareness then I will become lucid too"(even if I awakened from a dream)
-Visualize my LD
-Fall asleep while being aware of breathing(very easy for me)
-Every time I wake up, review my dreams, and then repeat my night practices (not the reviewing of the day)
and, that's all.
it's easy, I'm starting to sleep lighter, it's always motivating, even if it's a slow process.
that's the good thing, I never lose motivation, I'm always happy with this approach.
pd:I was thinking about adding awareness on breathing during the day, because it's something that's easy for me to do, now that I'm higly motivated.
Sweet cheers mate.
I just started meditating again yesterday. Hopefully this will help me with my concentration after a week.
Then I'll start doing the night practices.
Have you done the kind of mediation night practices before bed?
mmno, I don't exactly meditate...just fall asleep with awareness on breathing (ok, it's like meditating...)
when I say "night practices" I refer to the autosuggestion, visualization, and awareness of breathing. not the meditation practices of Dream Yoga. In fact, I don't do anything related to Dream Yoga. I just took the most simple things I could, to do the most simple approach, like when I first started on the LD path.
I have to completely agree with the OP.
Any natural occuring LD I've had in my life I did absolutely nothing to make happen, they just happened.
I've been able to increase my chances anytime by dream recall, dream journals and reality checks.
Although alot of the techniques here I would suggest using just to get an idea about how the mind and dreaming works. They give you some more control and some more answers as to why things are the way they are...
But, to quote Waking Life,
"They say dreaming is dead, no one does it anymore. It's not dead it's just that it's been forgotten, removed from our language. Nobody teaches it so nobody knows it exists. The dreamer is banished to obscurity. Well, I'm trying to change all that, and I hope you are too. By dreaming, every day. Dreaming with our hands and dreaming with our minds. Our planet is facing the greatest problems it's ever faced, ever. So whatever you do, don't be bored, this is absolutely the most exciting time we could have possibly hoped to be alive. And things are just starting"
Thank god for community forums like these eh? Forget forgotten!
hey bushi, what are you doing to get LD?
Hehe not much I was being lazy for a while there - nearly a year.
Now I've started my dream journal again, and I just need to get into the habit of doing WBTB a couple of times a week.
Also, I've started learning to meditate again to help me with WBTB and attempting to WILD at night.
I just lost my job recently so it's difficult to be aware when I'm at home most of the day on the computer.
Ok so are you using this method, and how well does it work compared to all the _ILD's?
this is proberly the best post iv seen regarding LD
THIS IS SO TRUE! One time I REALLY wanted to jack off (LMAO), but I couldn't because it was sleeping time and my mom kept on coming in the room. So when I was in the bed i was like fuck it. GUESS WHO GOT A LUCID THEN! :D lolQuote:
Originally Posted by BillyBob