Printable View
I read up on these methods a couple of nights ago but just cant seem to get them to work. I set 3 different alarms using the same sound, to wake me up after I go to sleep; one after 5 hours, one after 6 hours and one after 7 hours. They are all loud however I only ever find myself waking up to the third alarm at which i instantly jolt awake and ruin my chances at DEILD. Has anyone got any tips to overcome this problem?
Hmm...I used to always jump when my alarm went off, however, in awhile i got used to it and didn't jump. So one way is to just keep going till you get used to it, but that could take awhile..
Maybe you can try some different alarms, or let someone else wake you up. Tell them like..."Wake me up at 6:00am" (But make sure they're capable of remembering...) Have them wake you up as soft as you can take it so when you wake up, you should still be tired and it won't take long to fall asleep. Whenever I wake up from an alarm, or wake up by myself, I'm always wide awake. But when someone else wakes me up I feel like I never wanna leave my bed.
I also know some people that can make their bodies wake up at a certain time...But I don't know if you can do that. I personally can't :P
Also these methods might not be the best for you. Try some other ones, too.
Sorry I probably didn't have the best info, I'm not at all an expert, but I saw your thread had no replies so I decided to try my best to help. Good luck!
Yeah, thats what i was thinking of doing. The problem is i always go to bed so sure that im going to wake up and not move or open my eyes but by the time the alarm rings all memory of that is gone :P Ironically last night i decided to try the FILD method using a regular alarm clock. Problem was I was already in an amazing DILD when it went off and I couldn't chain because I had to move to turn it off -.- . Guess the key to it is just dedication and practice.
Well, I can offer a tip on how to do just the DEILD method, though it doesn't go along with CAN-WILD's use of alarms and is therefore outside of your planned procedures: I've always perceived the DEILD method to be an incredibly simple method, almost a stepping-stone kind of method to get you from being awake to being lucid very quickly and effectively. I find it this way because I do it when I naturally wake up in the morning, after getting "enough sleep", and going right back to sleep while (groggily) visualizing a dream scene I want to be in. It's very simple to do it this way, requires little effort to pull off, and of course is the golden link for chain-lucids! :D
That sounds like a pretty good method now you mention it :) The problem is it can only be done on days where you sleep in or sleep early right? I think I have the problem of being too aware when I wake up. I managed to stay still with my eyes closed this morning when attempting the DEILD but nothing happened , I just lay there :/ Do you think this is because I'm too aware?
No, it's not 'cause you're too aware, it's cause you need to lay there longer and let yourself fall asleep. Being too awake might be your problem there, but I'd sooner attribute it to not waiting long enough to go back to sleep. :D
Indeed, this method of doing DEILD requires you to make sure you get enough sleep that you'll wake up naturally without need of alarms. Sleeping in isn't required, though it helps with LDing in general. Getting to sleep earlier in the night can certainly help you get enough sleep to naturally wake up, therefore putting yourself in position to DEILD this way. The only requirement is that you wake up and don't move, and go right back to sleep, mostly the same as the CAN-WILD method's description, but you don't need to rely on an alarm or even a set time to DEILD - remember to DEILD right upon waking and boom, whenever you wake up and have the time you can go right back to sleep and into an insta-lucid!
Sounds awesome! :) I'l definately try it this weekend or even tonight if I can get myself to fall asleep early enough. One question though, It generally takes me ages to get to sleep or back asleep once I wake up. Do you think that this could hinder the whole process?
That depends on the circumstances that surround your waking up:
If you've just woken up from a dream and are really groggy but aware that you've just woken up and can do a DEILD, then you'll be able to easily pull it off.
If you've woken up and haven't moved but aren't getting right back to sleep, don't give up - you'll miss 100% of the lucid attempts you don't make, so make the attempts, and don't lose heart if you start to get back to sleep and wake back up, keep attempting! I completed this month's advanced TotM after a few failed DEILD attempts one morning.
If you've woken up and already moved around some, your chances are very much decreased, but it's still possible to DEILD.
Whichever the above circumstances you find yourself in, give it an attempt, even if you think you're too far gone - you won't know til you're lucid again.
Thanks for the advice man. I'l let you know if I had any success when I try it =) Yeah I guess it's just keeping at it even if you think you are failing. With the alarm method I could never seem to find the right balance, the first two alarms wouldn't even wake me up wheras the third one made me too awake. Bad luck I guess. I'l try a combination of the two though; keep trying to DEILD with the alarms and then when those (probably) fail I'l remember to stay still with my eyes closed when I actually wake up.