Thread: inorganic beings that feed off our enegy

Hrmmm any good tips for third eye meditation. I don't know if you are right but I believe in energy within people. I have been attacked by a pyrokinetic before. He didnt set fire to me but was trying to burn me.

I think people look into the inorganic thing too much. Sure it could be a way of looking at things.... that some unseen entity is feeding off of your negative emotions. Others simply view it negative routines we have learned since childhood, by "society,". Well then no matter how you look at it, what are you going to do with this knowledge? Be a victim? Or take responsibility and work to change yourself? Try a simple meditation for a while, "I reject all foreign thoughts." or you could face some of your fears head on.

This seems incredibly unlikely. Sure, freeing your mind is important, but this is the wrong reason to do it. Doing anything motivated by fear is unhealthy in the long run. Even if this WERE true... why should I worry about it? It doesn't seem like the sort of thing we could have much control over. If I work on being a good person, I feel like that's the most important thing to do. A bit of self-confidence goes a long way.

From what I have heard of inorganic beings and stuff, I tend to eat them in dreams, not the other way around lol

I don't really agree with the OP, but if it were true, then practicing aura fortification would be the best thing to do...not learning to open yourself up more (thereby making yourself even more vulnerable).

Originally Posted by Zebrah

Hrmmm any good tips for third eye meditation. I don't know if you are right but I believe in energy within people. I have been attacked by a pyrokinetic before. He didnt set fire to me but was trying to burn me.

I just wrote a whole thing on the meditation and the browser screwed up and I lost it...
For the meditation sit with your legs crossed with a straight back and eyes closed. Tell yourself "There is nothing I have to have, there is nothing I have to do, and there is nothing I have to be, except exactly what I am being right now"
Listen to your breathing.... Relax.... Focus on feeling in the center of your brain....

Originally Posted by Singularity125

This seems incredibly unlikely. Sure, freeing your mind is important, but this is the wrong reason to do it. Doing anything motivated by fear is unhealthy in the long run. Even if this WERE true... why should I worry about it? It doesn't seem like the sort of thing we could have much control over. If I work on being a good person, I feel like that's the most important thing to do. A bit of self-confidence goes a long way.

You've got to face your fears to make them go away.
What you resist persists and what you look at disappears.

Originally Posted by saltyseedog

There are thoughts being put in your head by another entity. They are not your own. you did not create them, but you think they are your own.
Reading this thread there is a good chance there is a voice in your head telling you to disbelieve it, not be open to it or something along those lines.
Inorganic beings put these thoughts in your head to control you to steal your energy.

So my ability to reason is the result of an inorganic being stealing my energy?

Maybe I'm misunderstanding something here.

Originally Posted by Man of Shed

I think people look into the inorganic thing too much. Sure it could be a way of looking at things.... that some unseen entity is feeding off of your negative emotions. Others simply view it negative routines we have learned since childhood, by "society,". Well then no matter how you look at it, what are you going to do with this knowledge? Be a victim? Or take responsibility and work to change yourself? Try a simple meditation for a while, "I reject all foreign thoughts." or you could face some of your fears head on.

I like this.

Originally Posted by saltyseedog

You've got to face your fears to make them go away.
What you resist persists and what you look at disappears.

...but I'm not afraid. Because this doesn't make logical sense to me. I realize intuition and emotion have their place, and I try to listen to them more every day, but it seems silly for me to believe in these inorganic beings. You have a reason to, because you have some personal experience. And I don't want to take that away from you. But unless something appeals to my logic, I've had personal experience, or on rare occasions "seems right" to me, I won't be able to believe it. I remain open minded, because god knows my friends tell me the most ridiculous tales sometimes, and they honestly believe them. Being my closest friends, I want to believe them too, but despite wanting to believe the paranormal at times, I have absolutely no experience with it. Anyways, I don't want this to be a long rant... my point was not to emphasize the fear. I just wanted to say that I too want to focus on love, even though I have different reasons.

Originally Posted by saltyseedog

A friend of mine told me a while ago that all major civilisations were founded by templars. Templars worship Baphomet who is represented as a breasted goat god or an owl.

Is it so hard to do 5 minutes of research before pretending to know stuff.

Knights Templar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Originally Posted by Queen Zukin

So my ability to reason is the result of an inorganic being stealing my energy?

Maybe I'm misunderstanding something here.

More like the belief systems we are brainwashed into by tv and such

Am I the only one who's reminded of Assassin's Creed every time he hears the word "Templar"? In fact, the whole New World Order thing creeps into those games too. (Though I haven't finished 2 or seen Brotherhood, so...) I am trying to take your ideas seriously, saltyseedog, but I guess as a gamer I have some bias.

Originally Posted by Spartiate

Is it so hard to do 5 minutes of research before pretending to know stuff.

Knights Templar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Apparently.

It really astounds me actually...that when some people hear something from someone they just believe it rather than questioning it and doing research to find out whether it is true or accurate before adopting the information into their own belief system and regurgitating it as if it were factual.

Sure thing, mate.. Good luck with that..

Don't go strapping knives to your wrists, though.. That's just dangerous..

Originally Posted by saltyseadog

My mom has had dreams throughout her life where she is laying paralysed in bed and a dark shadow figure is standing above and she feels incredible fear.

Please read:

Originally Posted by wikipedia

Symptoms and characteristics

Physiologically, sleep paralysis is closely related to REM atonia, the paralysis that occurs as a natural part of REM (rapid eye movement) sleep. Sleep paralysis occurs either when falling asleep, or when awakening. When it occurs upon falling asleep, the person remains aware while the body shuts down for REM sleep, and it is called hypnagogic or predormital sleep paralysis. When it occurs upon awakening, the person becomes aware before the REM cycle is complete, and it is called hypnopompic or postdormital.[5] The paralysis can last from several seconds to several minutes "by which the individual may experience panic symptoms".[6] (described below) As the correlation with REM sleep suggests, the paralysis is not entirely complete; use of EOG traces shows that eye movement is still possible during such episodes.[7] When there is an absence of narcolepsy, sleep paralysis is referred to as isolated sleep paralysis (ISP).[8]

In addition, the paralysis may be accompanied by terrifying hallucinations (hypnopompic or hypnagogic) and an acute sense of danger.[9] Sleep paralysis is particularly frightening to the individual because of the vividness of such hallucinations.[8] The hallucinatory element to sleep paralysis makes it even more likely that someone will interpret the experience as a dream, since completely fanciful or dream-like objects may appear in the room alongside one's normal vision. Some scientists have proposed this condition as an explanation for alien abductions and ghostly encounters.[10] A study by Susan Blackmore and Marcus Cox (the Blackmore-Cox study) of the University of the West of England supports the suggestion that reports of alien abductions are related to sleep paralysis rather than to temporal lobe lability.[11] Some authors have warned of the possible misconnection between child sexual abuse (CSA) and hypnagogic/pompic phenomena and have noted that some clients after having described such an event to a fortune teller or psychic that the psychic may have suggested CSA (See Murphy and Egan, 2010 http://www.lenus.ie/hse/bitstream/10...PMarch2010.pdf).

Sleep paralysis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Sleep paralysis happens to all of us, every night. The body shuts down and paralyzes itself, so that we do not act out our dreams. It is a defense mechanism. The problem comes when, sometimes, our minds become conscious (awake) before the body has had a chance to turn off its sleep paralysis. Since we are still in a state of sleep, dream visions tend to blend with the open-eyed view of the environment. Many of these images, just like dreams, themselves, can be disturbing and - naturally - people tend to freak out.

I've heard of many people having dreams of shadow beings and feeling intense fear, or stealing energy from them though. Also maybe people who see different things like aliens, it could actually be inorganic beings but their own interpretation makes them see them differently. I know what sleep paralysis is though, I've had before.
Also like to add that half of the stuff I said are theories, you know like the things about Baphomet and the intentions behind the NWO. Maybe I'm going insane. Maybe I'm getting to caught up in my own ideas to much.
If you watch the video of bohemian grove where there are world leaders having "mock" sacrifices and worshipping this ancient god thats been being worshipped since ancient egypt you start to go, wtf why are they doing that? What I do know for sure is that many people have dim energy and there awareness is stuck up in their heads. I also believe that there are other entities that can visit us in dreams to take our energy.

Also if you want to see that Bohemian grove video its here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_PAqT2JZOw

Also also I just saw this guys video and he has a similar perspective but explains much better than I do http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTs9B...eature=related

lol that video, it was just so funny to read the comments.

More like the belief systems we are brainwashed into by tv and such

Belief system that is most portrayed on TV and such is the Judeo-Christian one, so I find it really funny that in the video, the people who are commenting are from that very system lol

Anyway, yeah, the shadow things that make you feel fear, I eat them often, but you know, many people are afraid of the dark and the unknown, so it makes sense that people would often dream about human-shaped dark and unknown things, just like a lot of people have nightmares with insects and the like.

Originally Posted by saltyseedog

Also if you want to see that Bohemian grove video its here: YouTube - Alex Jones - Secrets in Bohemian Grove

I'm very familiar with Bohemian Grove. The bottom line is, though, that we don't know what they are doing out there, and it could be something as harmless as Fraternity type (which is basically what the governmental system is built upon) rituals and traditions. My curiosity as to what they are doing out there isn't enough to make me assume that they are doing something supernatural. I am open to the idea of the paranormal and the metaphysical, but I haven't seen enough evidence to convince me that it is real. However, I have seen very concise evidence / explanations for why people have SP and "Old Hag" syndrome (and, yes, it's very common), so I'm more inclined to side with the one that has a firm base in other, proven, phenomena.

Originally Posted by Oneironaut

I'm very familiar with Bohemian Grove. The bottom line is, though, that we don't know what they are doing out there, and it could be something as harmless as Fraternity type (which is basically what the governmental system is built upon) rituals and traditions. My curiosity as to what they are doing out there isn't enough to make me assume that they are doing something supernatural. I am open to the idea of the paranormal and the metaphysical, but I haven't seen enough evidence to convince me that it is real. However, I have seen very concise evidence / explanations for why people have SP and "Old Hag" syndrome (and, yes, it's very common), so I'm more inclined to side with the one that has a firm base in other, proven, phenomena.

Out of curiosity, what is your concise evidence/explanation for the Old Hag? I read up on SP years ago when I suffered from it frequently. But reading what I could find on the internet (yes that includes Wiki) didn't give me any good explanation for the Old Hag.

I understand the concept that people visualize a dark presence weighing down on them as they physically experience their body in paralysis. But that concept relies on people experiencing FEAR first as they experience the pressure of the paralysis. How thin is that concept when fear is absent! How thin is that concept when fear is present and the hag isn't!

The first time I had SP I wasn't afraid. I was just really confused why I was struggling to move. Then I sense someone standing next to me. I'm curious and I want to know who it is, at first thinking it was one of my sisters coming to wake me up. Instead the figure pushes my head away so I can't see, and presses down on my chest to the point to the point where I was gasping for air. It was only at that point did I become afraid.

Another time I was terrified. I can't move. I can barely breathe. I try to scream so someone can wake me up. But I barely have a voice. No hag. No demons. Another time, I was having a FA. I lay down and think about WILDing (I thought I was awake). The desire to WILD while already asleep projected me towards a tunnel glowing up above which would teleport me to my new dreamscape. Suddenly two dark entities stop me. They force me back onto my bed. They pin me down. I can't move. They threaten me, daring me to try to enter the new dream. I can't see them directly, only from the corner of my eye.

In another FA, I was relaxing again, again believing I was awake when I was already asleep. Suddenly I'm lifted out of my bed. My body falls into complete paralysis in a crucifixion pose. I scream because it was so sudden it terrified me, but I can't recognize my own voice, its only a deep moan (which terrifies me even more). No hag. No dark entities. I'm suddenly dropped back down into my bed as if nothing happened. (then I wake up thinking WTF!)

I'm not trying to say that the hag is real. What I am trying to say is I'm dissatisfied with the current theories. Too many of them rely on the fear of the strange sensations of the paralysis to be the explanation for the hallucination of the hag. But even with fear, the hag wasn't always present. And even without fear, sometimes the hag was.

And what I don't understand, even if the mind is only projecting its experience of the paralysis, why isn't the SP just as diverse as dreams? Why doesn't someone wonder "why is there this weight on my chest?" and look down in the SP to see their dog sleeping on them? Or a cat? Or their lover? Or their child, ect? Why don't people look down to see, that they're covered in tape? Strapped down to an emergency bed?

Why the Old Hag?

But I guess when were dealing with something common, its a lot like coincidences. Some people believe in coincidences. Others don't believe anything is a coincidence. Science can't tell us either way. We can say on one hand "the old hag can't be evil or demonic, or real in anyway because of how common and normal the experience is" Or we can say "Demons in dreams are completely personal. But this Old Hag is so common and experienced so universally, maybe she's not just a dream"

I have never experienced an "Old Hag" so it bothers me when people talk about it as if it is the standard experience and explanation for sleep paralysis. It seems like a very plebeian explanation for something that is poorly understood by most people.

Originally Posted by saltyseedog

There are thoughts being put in your head by another entity. They are not your own. you did not create them, but you think they are your own.
Reading this thread there is a good chance there is a voice in your head telling you to disbelieve it, not be open to it or something along those lines.
Inorganic beings put these thoughts in your head to control you to steal your energy.

So if I don't believe you then the only explanation is that I've fallen victim to the very dangers you argue exist, rendering any counter-argument (in the view of your proposed beliefs) invalid. I'm sory, but you're going to have to do better than run-of-the-mill religious tactics.

Originally Posted by saltyseedog

There are thoughts being put in your head by another entity. They are not your own. you did not create them, but you think they are your own.

His name is Dom Cobb. He is a tool of the government putting thoughts in your mind to keep you under control. Right now you probably don't believe me, but if not, it's only because he is putting that doubt in your mind.

Catch my drift?

I agree with supernova.

Also, how does your friend know that all major civilisations were founded by templars? And how do you know that baphomet does all these things? I have personally never had any experiences with these templars and this baphomet you speak of.

Well god talked to me personally and he says you got to conform your beliefs to this book I wrote, and if you don't your going to hell.

god talked to you personally.... ok lets just asume that god exists. Why would he speak to you personally? what makes you so important?

According to Toltec sorcery you are correct regarding the inorganic beings. And you are correct that thoughts are not your own. Thoughts are floating through the air and are received by our hypothalamus antennae, and decoded by our frontal lobe. I am not sure of the biology of it. That is where I traced the thought process to and checked with anatomy charts of the brain.

I agree with the spirit of what you are saying. I disagree though with the whole worldview that you created around it. This world-view is borrowed from other humans or inorganic beings that you use to make sense of your world. It can help you grow spiritually as long as you realize that it is only a world-view and not the real-world. We all have limits to our understanding and we use doctrines and world-views as tools or maps to venture out more into the unknown. But we cannot hang on to them. All borrowed knowledge or thoughts, whether borrowed from the media, other people, inorganic beings, etc. is just borrowed-knowledge, not true self-knowledge.

It can be liberating to consider that we are influenced by others and that what we think we are is not true. Liberate yourself from the influence of thoughts. It takes impeccability. According to Toltec sorcery human sorcerers are meant to evolve into inorganic beings themselves. This is called Nagual (Nah-wal). But first we must liberate ourselves from the influence of inorganic beings, including the Flyer.