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      Precognitive Lucid Dreams

      What's up, everyone!
      I'm happy to be here among you guys. It's just a great place to be!
      To be honest, I was a little puzzled when I first came here. There's so much to learn, really

      Well, let me say first that I'm not really new to lucid dreaming experiences. I've been studying this concept on and off since I was a teen in high school. Now I graduated, but the thing still thrills me!!! I guess the reason why lucid dreaming experience is so magnetic is that we can't fully contemplate the outcome - it's infinite! Yeah, exactly so, because our imagination is involved. It's like the whole infinitude of ideas is ingrained in our brains - we have to literally hack our subconscious while in a dream!

      I started this thread in hope of finding people like me, who believe that precognitive dreams ARE real.

      I had my first precognitive dream when I was around 17 years old. I used to jog at the time. One day before falling asleep, I was lying in bed feeling a little drowsy. I was almost there and drifting off when I saw some people having a row over something. Their voices were pretty loud. As I said, I used to jog back then when I was seventeen. I would usually jog in the morning.
      However, that instant I decided against going for a jog the following morning, cause frankly, I got a lil' scared that I could bump into those people i saw while I was drifting off.

      Next morning, right when I would usually go for a jog, some noises waked me up. They turned out be some real people quarreling over something, exactly like I heard them in a dream (well, not really a dream, I was drowsy at the time).
      Anyway, I didn't really pay much attention to the whole thing and went to sleep again. I guess I thought I was just imagining things.

      However, later in the day I asked my brother about those early morning noises. He happened to hear exactly the same thing! I was shocked, to speak the least!

      So, I guess back then I unlocked some hidden subconscious potential.
      I'm just wondering if I could make it controllable so that every time I go to sleep and set my mind to see the future outcome, I'll do just that. I know it's a tough thing to do, but I'm set on it!
      Anyone had similar experiences?

      I hope to meet great people over here.

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      i once heard a song in my dreams, and when my alarm clock woke me up again it was playing the exact same song!

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      Welcome to Dreamviews! I've already talked to you on IRC about it but if you want talk some more feel free to message me!

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      This would probably be better suited in Beyond Dreaming (there are already a few threads in there about precognitive dreaming) so if a mod. catches this... movey perhaps?

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      Yea I cant say I've had one myself but I have heard TONS of stories that are described like a precognitive dream and I support the concept
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      A method I learned works very well for me, but I don't do it for long periods of time because it kind of freaks me out:

      Whatever I dream of, the next day I am vigilant for anything that can remind me of the dream. Also, if I dream of doing something or going somewhere nearby (as long as nothing bad happens in the dream) I try to re-enact the dream the next day. I will go to the same place, I will hang out with the same people. This is the process of looking for connections, or making connections, between the dreams and the waking life. Each time a connection is made, I sense the feeling of the dream from the night before be present at that moment. I cultivate deja-vu.

      By doing this as a discipline, the dreams change, the connections get clearer. The connections become less symbolic and more literal. Yes, at first the connections might be trivial and personally contrived. You may have little faith in a connection you are trying to make. You may only be able to cultivate a cheap dose of deja-vu. At first the connections might be symbolic. They might be puns. You may dream of a bear and the next day somebody says "I can't bear it" or "How about them bears?" or a tv show at the bar is a nature program about polar bears. But that is how it starts. And then it snowballs, until you are making less effort in suspending disbelief, and as you live more by your dreams, trusting their guidance, the more reliable they become. After a while, it may get too crazy at which point you can take a break.
      The first time I got a confirmational result freaked me out. I had a dream where I was in love with this beautiful blond girl from Slovenia with a beautiful smile. I dreamt that I met her on a bench for smokers at the coffee shop downtown. When I awoke, I still had that lovey feeling with me all day. So I went down to that coffee shop and sat on that bench. The bench was all alone on the other side of the parking lot and I was all alone sitting at it. I turned on the feeling of the dream and the connection and got all deja-vu feeling. I sat there for a while, then I was about to give up and get up and leave when a car pulls up and the woman from my dream came out and walked up and introduced herself! I was stunned! She was exactly like in the dream and it felt soo familiar it was like my dream was happening again! I stuttered the whole time because I wanted to tell her about it but then I thought like it would sound creepy to her.
      It seems like the goal would be, if you could handle it, is to constantly live in the deja-vu flow and having your waking life and dreaming life exist side-by-side each guiding each other. This is how the ancient hunter-gatherer societies lived. They would know where the herd of buffalo were by group dreaming, where they would rehearse their desired outcome of killing enough buffalo to feed them and their families. In this way, perhaps, the buffalo dream of it also and some buffalo subconsciously sacrifice themselves to the flow of life.
      Following the guidance of your dreams and they become precognitive.
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      Dannon Oneironaut, thank you so much for your detailed response!
      I can see what you're driving at, and now, when I think of it myself, it all makes perfect sense!

      The thing is, I'm still to enter Lucid Dreams and, hopefully, have a precognition. As I pointed out earlier, I've had a couple of lucid dreams. However, I didn't have them for a while, which is sad.
      Right now, I've yet to attain Lucidity. You can't be fully lucid in your waking life until are lucid in your dreams.

      I've been thinking about the concept or Reality Checks lately. I think this concept can be applied to precognitive dreams as well. What I mean by that is, you might wanna verify if your lucid dream precognition turns out to be true by performing some sort of a test in waking life. For instance, you have asked someone to think of a six-digit number in waking life and remember it. Then, in your dream you might try searching for a duplicate dream character (or projection, in terms Inception) and ask him what the number was! Still, this is just my hypothesis and I have to verify it.

      Speaking about connections, Dannon Oneironaut, you just said something I've been thinking off for quite a while but couldn't make a clearer picture of it. Your idea holds ground for the following reasons:
      - It's easier to get access to things you've established an emotional connection with.
      - Things you are emotionally connected with are most probably recurrent in your dreams and therefore increase the odds for precognition.

      Dannon, do you have some sort of a diary where you keep track of precognitive lucid dreams? That'd be most helpful!

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      this happened to me once, i had a dream about helping my stepdad look for his car keys, then i woke up, and the dream happened. he was very skeptical of it though
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      Quote Originally Posted by Dannon Oneironaut View Post
      A method I learned works very well for me, but I don't do it for long periods of time because it kind of freaks me out:

      Whatever I dream of, the next day I am vigilant for anything that can remind me of the dream. Also, if I dream of doing something or going somewhere nearby (as long as nothing bad happens in the dream) I try to re-enact the dream the next day. I will go to the same place, I will hang out with the same people. This is the process of looking for connections, or making connections, between the dreams and the waking life. Each time a connection is made, I sense the feeling of the dream from the night before be present at that moment. I cultivate deja-vu.

      By doing this as a discipline, the dreams change, the connections get clearer. The connections become less symbolic and more literal. Yes, at first the connections might be trivial and personally contrived. You may have little faith in a connection you are trying to make. You may only be able to cultivate a cheap dose of deja-vu. At first the connections might be symbolic. They might be puns. You may dream of a bear and the next day somebody says "I can't bear it" or "How about them bears?" or a tv show at the bar is a nature program about polar bears. But that is how it starts. And then it snowballs, until you are making less effort in suspending disbelief, and as you live more by your dreams, trusting their guidance, the more reliable they become. After a while, it may get too crazy at which point you can take a break.
      The first time I got a confirmational result freaked me out. I had a dream where I was in love with this beautiful blond girl from Slovenia with a beautiful smile. I dreamt that I met her on a bench for smokers at the coffee shop downtown. When I awoke, I still had that lovey feeling with me all day. So I went down to that coffee shop and sat on that bench. The bench was all alone on the other side of the parking lot and I was all alone sitting at it. I turned on the feeling of the dream and the connection and got all deja-vu feeling. I sat there for a while, then I was about to give up and get up and leave when a car pulls up and the woman from my dream came out and walked up and introduced herself! I was stunned! She was exactly like in the dream and it felt soo familiar it was like my dream was happening again! I stuttered the whole time because I wanted to tell her about it but then I thought like it would sound creepy to her.
      It seems like the goal would be, if you could handle it, is to constantly live in the deja-vu flow and having your waking life and dreaming life exist side-by-side each guiding each other. This is how the ancient hunter-gatherer societies lived. They would know where the herd of buffalo were by group dreaming, where they would rehearse their desired outcome of killing enough buffalo to feed them and their families. In this way, perhaps, the buffalo dream of it also and some buffalo subconsciously sacrifice themselves to the flow of life.
      Following the guidance of your dreams and they become precognitive.
      Fuck yes. I have been doing the same thing. I actually had a precognitive dream yesterday.

      Lucid precognitive dreaming. What do you mean by this?

      You are aware that you are having a precognitive dream?

      I would love to do that, and then I would change events. Such a things is an extremely advanced skill.
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      Quote Originally Posted by WakingNomad View Post

      Lucid precognitive dreaming. What do you mean by this?

      You are aware that you are having a precognitive dream?

      I would love to do that, and then I would change events. Such a things is an extremely advanced skill.
      Not exactly. It's a more of a step towards attaining lucidity and purposefully extracting some sort of information (future outcome or yet unknown data). I wonder why many of you guys with soooo much experience haven't already done that. Still a thought, though.

      Flying while lucid dreaming would be great, though my prime goal at present is just that - precognition. I wanna turn it into a manageable skill.
      Right now I'm trying this WBTB technique. I just woke up from a six hours' sleep and set my alarm clock to beep in 90 minutes. I've been walking around the house for nearly an hour now, I think, not really doing anything.
      Wish me luck!

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      Quote Originally Posted by Dravd View Post
      Dannon Oneironaut, thank you so much for your detailed response!
      I can see what you're driving at, and now, when I think of it myself, it all makes perfect sense!

      The thing is, I'm still to enter Lucid Dreams and, hopefully, have a precognition. As I pointed out earlier, I've had a couple of lucid dreams. However, I didn't have them for a while, which is sad.
      Right now, I've yet to attain Lucidity. You can't be fully lucid in your waking life until are lucid in your dreams.
      You don't have to be lucid for this technique. Lucidity is fun, but not necessary to work with dreams. Lucidity is necessary for using the mind to observe the mind. But saying that you can't be lucid in your waking life until you are lucid in your dreams is a false assumption. In fact, most often it works the other way. Doing reality checks during the day helps to do them in dreams. Meditating increases lucid dreams. Both go hand in hand. If YOU are lucid, you will be lucid, whether or not you are sleeping or awake.

      In my opinion, people on this forum are too obsessed with getting lucid that it works against them. They are hankering for it and it takes the fun and motivation out of it for the subconscious mind. Dreams are greawt if you can just remember them! Lucidity is great also, but there is still so much to be done working with dreams even if they are not lucid dreams.

      No I don't have any online diaries because I don't really like being on computers other than to talk with people or watch cool videos.

      The most surprising precognitive dream is the one that isn't remembered until the even that it fortells happens and then the memory of the dream explodes into consciousness! One time I went on an artwalk to all the local art galleries and looked inside a pottery kiln and saw the jet of blue propane flame inside that immediately made me remember the dream from the night before in which I saw pyramid jet of blue flame. Some people call these 'coincidences' in an attempt to explain them in a way that makes sense to their rational worldview in which precognition doesn't exist. But that is just a conceptual word to explain an event that doesn't need any explanation. Sure, the human mind might be the one creating the connection where no connection exists inherently, but regardless of where the connection comes from it still exists if you see it. That argument is also a just-so story used to explain a phenomena in a way that conforms to one's worldview, that humans see patterns where no patterns exist. It is an assumption to say that no pattern exists where we might see one. Just because a human thinks that a cloud looks like a human face doesn't mean that the cloud does NOT look like a human face.

      That is a tangent. Anyway my point is not to worry if you think that you are the one making these connections rather than your dream being authentically precognitive. It is a technique, not a philosophical statement about reality. In this technique we use that human tendency to see patterns and connections to our advantage. Now, there is something else you can do with this same technique, but it does require lucidity and success in precognitive dreaming. That is the art of magic, or making things happen. Once your dreamtime and your waking life are in harmony, as evidenced by success in precognition, you can lucid dream something you WANT to happen and then the next day expect it to happen. This is magic.

      But of course, it is the same as a successful precognitive dream of a desired outcome. I guess the differentiation is between if the dream event is willed lucidly in which case the outcome in waking life can be considered to be created using the magical technique, or if the dream is not lucid and the event just shows up in the dream without the dreamer's will, then one would say the dream foretold the future if the event happens in the future.
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      Dannon, thanks for your response, man.
      Fortunately I'm having lucid dreams. My point was, I'm actually having lucid dreams now. It's just that once lucid in a dream I forget everything I initially tasked myself to accomplish.


      I wanna be the architect for my dreams. I wanna keep cool, stay alert and explore things. Instead, I just go with the flow, engage in lots of action. That's the biggest problem right now. Also I need to be able to prolong my lucid dreams, cause I always go overboard and get excited.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Dannon Oneironaut View Post
      A method I learned works very well for me, but I don't do it for long periods of time because it kind of freaks me out:

      Whatever I dream of, the next day I am vigilant for anything that can remind me of the dream. Also, if I dream of doing something or going somewhere nearby (as long as nothing bad happens in the dream) I try to re-enact the dream the next day. I will go to the same place, I will hang out with the same people. This is the process of looking for connections, or making connections, between the dreams and the waking life. Each time a connection is made, I sense the feeling of the dream from the night before be present at that moment. I cultivate deja-vu.

      By doing this as a discipline, the dreams change, the connections get clearer. The connections become less symbolic and more literal. Yes, at first the connections might be trivial and personally contrived. You may have little faith in a connection you are trying to make. You may only be able to cultivate a cheap dose of deja-vu. At first the connections might be symbolic. They might be puns. You may dream of a bear and the next day somebody says "I can't bear it" or "How about them bears?" or a tv show at the bar is a nature program about polar bears. But that is how it starts. And then it snowballs, until you are making less effort in suspending disbelief, and as you live more by your dreams, trusting their guidance, the more reliable they become. After a while, it may get too crazy at which point you can take a break.
      The first time I got a confirmational result freaked me out. I had a dream where I was in love with this beautiful blond girl from Slovenia with a beautiful smile. I dreamt that I met her on a bench for smokers at the coffee shop downtown. When I awoke, I still had that lovey feeling with me all day. So I went down to that coffee shop and sat on that bench. The bench was all alone on the other side of the parking lot and I was all alone sitting at it. I turned on the feeling of the dream and the connection and got all deja-vu feeling. I sat there for a while, then I was about to give up and get up and leave when a car pulls up and the woman from my dream came out and walked up and introduced herself! I was stunned! She was exactly like in the dream and it felt soo familiar it was like my dream was happening again! I stuttered the whole time because I wanted to tell her about it but then I thought like it would sound creepy to her.
      It seems like the goal would be, if you could handle it, is to constantly live in the deja-vu flow and having your waking life and dreaming life exist side-by-side each guiding each other. This is how the ancient hunter-gatherer societies lived. They would know where the herd of buffalo were by group dreaming, where they would rehearse their desired outcome of killing enough buffalo to feed them and their families. In this way, perhaps, the buffalo dream of it also and some buffalo subconsciously sacrifice themselves to the flow of life.
      Following the guidance of your dreams and they become precognitive.
      This was awesome to read! Thank you!

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