• Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views




    Results 1 to 20 of 20
    Like Tree3Likes
    • 2 Post By Oneironaut Zero
    • 1 Post By <span class='glow_9400D3'>saltyseedog</span>

    Thread: Communicating with my passed relatives spirits through dreams?

    1. #1
      VAmar CACTUAR's Avatar
      Join Date
      Jul 2011
      LD Count
      1 (on DV)
      Gender
      Location
      Western USA, I move a lot..
      Posts
      11
      Likes
      4
      DJ Entries
      2

      Communicating with my passed relatives spirits through dreams?

      Okay, so I remember when I was like 7, My Grandmother died. I would always have dreams about her. Not Lucid ones though. I thought it was reality, I would wake up in my dream and see her there. We would always just talk, I would tell her how much I loved and missed her and sometimes it would feel REALLY eerie and creepy. Especially when I'd wake up and realize it was a dream. One day I just put my hands together and told her I loved her but to stay out of my dreams for a while because it was getting to a point where I'd have the same dream over and over again. Well, not the same dream, we'd talk about different things but, she would always be there. I thought simply asking her spirit to stay away for a while wouldn't work and it was so illogical. After I did though, I stopped having the dreams. I thought it was the weirdest thing ever. Now I've realized that I have Lucid dreams. I know I'm dreaming. I thought I'd try asking Grandma if she would reenter my dreams again, just to see if it would work and sure enough it did work. It's still the same thing except that I am aware that I'm dreaming. I tried it with other passed relatives and again sure enough, I can invite any of my passed relatives' spirits into my dreams. But, that's my big question.. Is it really their spirits?? Or just my head playing tricks on me? Is it actually Grandma's spirit communicating with me? Am I Psychic to some extent? I know this should be a good thing but, for some reason it feels really creepy. Almost like they aren't gone. Anyway, I'm asking your guys' thoughts on this. I am VERY curious.

    2. #2
       Solarflare's Avatar
      Join Date
      Jan 2011
      Gender
      Location
      Colony 9
      Posts
      4,452
      Likes
      1650
      DJ Entries
      67
      this should be moved to Beyond Dreaming, but no one can be 100% sure. Some people would say no because that would be impossible, while others would say she is. I personally say no, it isnt

    3. #3
      Member SystemsLock's Avatar
      Join Date
      Jan 2010
      Gender
      Posts
      276
      Likes
      45
      Quote Originally Posted by CACTUAR View Post
      Okay, so I remember when I was like 7, My Grandmother died. I would always have dreams about her. Not Lucid ones though. I thought it was reality, I would wake up in my dream and see her there. We would always just talk, I would tell her how much I loved and missed her and sometimes it would feel REALLY eerie and creepy. Especially when I'd wake up and realize it was a dream. One day I just put my hands together and told her I loved her but to stay out of my dreams for a while because it was getting to a point where I'd have the same dream over and over again. Well, not the same dream, we'd talk about different things but, she would always be there. I thought simply asking her spirit to stay away for a while wouldn't work and it was so illogical. After I did though, I stopped having the dreams. I thought it was the weirdest thing ever. Now I've realized that I have Lucid dreams. I know I'm dreaming. I thought I'd try asking Grandma if she would reenter my dreams again, just to see if it would work and sure enough it did work. It's still the same thing except that I am aware that I'm dreaming. I tried it with other passed relatives and again sure enough, I can invite any of my passed relatives' spirits into my dreams. But, that's my big question.. Is it really their spirits?? Or just my head playing tricks on me? Is it actually Grandma's spirit communicating with me? Am I Psychic to some extent? I know this should be a good thing but, for some reason it feels really creepy. Almost like they aren't gone. Anyway, I'm asking your guys' thoughts on this. I am VERY curious.
      You're new here, so welcome. I'm sorry your loss. If you are feeling persistently depressed you should seek help from professionals. Or at the very least talk to someone about it.

      Unfortunately this forum is for the discussion of lucid dreaming (which is scientifically recognized and generally accepted as fact). Paranormal phenomenon belong in a forum for paranormal phenomenon. I'm really not sure where you made the connection.

      Quote Originally Posted by gameoverlord345 View Post
      this should be moved to Beyond Dreaming, but no one can be 100% sure. Some people would say no because that would be impossible, while others would say she is. I personally say no, it isnt
      The whole world thinks China exists but my friend says it doesn't. So I suppose no one can be 100% sure.
      "I know that I am mortal by nature, and ephemeral; but when I trace at my pleasure the windings to and fro of the heavenly bodies I no longer touch the earth with my feet: I stand in the presence of Zeus himself and take my fill of ambrosia, food of the gods." - Claudius Ptolemy

    4. #4
      VAmar CACTUAR's Avatar
      Join Date
      Jul 2011
      LD Count
      1 (on DV)
      Gender
      Location
      Western USA, I move a lot..
      Posts
      11
      Likes
      4
      DJ Entries
      2
      Quote Originally Posted by SystemsLock View Post
      You're new here, so welcome. I'm sorry your loss. If you are feeling persistently depressed you should seek help from professionals. Or at the very least talk to someone about it.

      Unfortunately this forum is for the discussion of lucid dreaming (which is scientifically recognized and generally accepted as fact). Paranormal phenomenon belong in a forum for paranormal phenomenon. I'm really not sure where you made the connection.



      The whole world thinks China exists but my friend says it doesn't. So I suppose no one can be 100% sure.
      Who are you to say I'm depressed? I love my life right now, I just dream about my past relatives in a very odd manner. No need to be rude! Haha

    5. #5
      Diamonds And Rust Achievements:
      Veteran First Class Vivid Dream Journal Referrer Bronze Populated Wall Made lots of Friends on DV Tagger First Class 10000 Hall Points
      Darkmatters's Avatar
      Join Date
      Dec 2009
      Gender
      Location
      Center of the universe
      Posts
      6,949
      Likes
      5848
      DJ Entries
      172
      I've had similar dreams about passed relatives, and they were very profound and powerful, felt like absolutely real experiences. Personally though, I don't believe in souls or spirits, I just think it's a really intense dreaming experience.

    6. #6
      Member SystemsLock's Avatar
      Join Date
      Jan 2010
      Gender
      Posts
      276
      Likes
      45
      Quote Originally Posted by CACTUAR View Post
      Who are you to say I'm depressed? I love my life right now, I just dream about my past relatives in a very odd manner. No need to be rude! Haha
      Rude? I was trying to be compassionate.
      "I know that I am mortal by nature, and ephemeral; but when I trace at my pleasure the windings to and fro of the heavenly bodies I no longer touch the earth with my feet: I stand in the presence of Zeus himself and take my fill of ambrosia, food of the gods." - Claudius Ptolemy

    7. #7
      Member divinemission's Avatar
      Join Date
      Aug 2010
      LD Count
      8
      Gender
      Location
      LIMBO
      Posts
      130
      Likes
      26
      DJ Entries
      1
      There are many cultures here in our world where people do sincerely believe that you can authentically communicate with spirits through dreams. In fact, in many African indigenous cultures this is socially accepted throughout the entire community and dream communication is commonly practiced. It just boils down to personal belief whether you think you are actually talking to your dead relatives spirits or not. Personally I'm a little skeptic about it, but do I think it's entirely impossible... no.
      "Dreams are real while they last. Can we say more of life?" - Havelock Ellis

    8. #8
      Member
      Join Date
      Jul 2008
      Posts
      9
      Likes
      0
      I think it's real and you probably already know this in your heart.

      Quote Originally Posted by SystemsLock View Post
      Unfortunately this forum is for the discussion of lucid dreaming (which is scientifically recognized and generally accepted as fact). Paranormal phenomenon belong in a forum for paranormal phenomenon. I'm really not sure where you made the connection.
      How has science proved dreams let alone lucid dreams exists? Science can detect and analyze different frequencies of brainwaves and rapid eye movement, but can't prove dreams because there is no method of observation. Just because someone wakes up and says they are dreaming is not scientific proof. He's dreaming? So he claims. Where is the scientific proof. There is none.

    9. #9
      Member SystemsLock's Avatar
      Join Date
      Jan 2010
      Gender
      Posts
      276
      Likes
      45
      Quote Originally Posted by Meepo View Post
      How has science proved dreams let alone lucid dreams exists? Science can detect and analyze different frequencies of brainwaves and rapid eye movement, but can't prove dreams because there is no method of observation. Just because someone wakes up and says they are dreaming is not scientific proof. He's dreaming? So he claims. Where is the scientific proof. There is none.
      I think that's a stupid argument and you probably already know that it's stupid argument in your heart. Maybe nothing exists? Maybe we're all just brains floating in jars? Honestly it's impossible to know. But I trust most those who dedicate themselves to finding that truth by using the best tools and the best peer review processes we have available to us. Nobody can be certain of anything, but at least in this, we can be pretty damn sure.

      BESIDES, this is a non-issue. The official position of the DV staff is that Astral Projections and Dream Sharing aren't real. Mods have backed up the conclusion that topics such as these belong in the Beyond Dreaming section.
      Last edited by SystemsLock; 07-20-2011 at 02:51 AM.
      "I know that I am mortal by nature, and ephemeral; but when I trace at my pleasure the windings to and fro of the heavenly bodies I no longer touch the earth with my feet: I stand in the presence of Zeus himself and take my fill of ambrosia, food of the gods." - Claudius Ptolemy

    10. #10
      Drivel's Advocate Xaqaria's Avatar
      Join Date
      May 2007
      LD Count
      WhoIsJohnGalt?
      Gender
      Location
      Denver, CO Catchphrase: BullCockie!
      Posts
      5,589
      Likes
      930
      DJ Entries
      9
      Moved to Beyond Dreaming;

      It is my opinion that spirits are thoughtforms. Basically what this means is that your 'spirit' consists of all of the thoughts and ideas that exist about you. While you are alive, these ideas are generally centered around your physical body, and most of the ideas about you exist in your mind (we are rather egocentric creatures). Once you die, what remains of your spirit is the patterns of thought regarding who you are that exist in the minds of the people who knew you or know about you. In this sense, all of the ideas that you have about your deceased relatives that create the image of them within your dreams are a part of the overall 'idea' of them that is there spirit so in essence it is the spirit of your relative that you contain in your mind.

      The ability to happily respond to any adversity is the divine.
      Art
      Dream Journal Shaman Apprentice Chronicles

    11. #11
      Member
      Join Date
      Jul 2008
      Posts
      9
      Likes
      0
      It's a stupid argument because we know that dreams exist yet science can't prove them. I just wanted to point out your hypocrisy of using science only when it suits you to claim something as real.

    12. #12
      "O" will suffice. Achievements:
      1 year registered Made lots of Friends on DV Referrer Gold Veteran First Class Populated Wall Tagger First Class 25000 Hall Points Vivid Dream Journal
      Oneironaut Zero's Avatar
      Join Date
      Apr 2005
      LD Count
      20+ Years Worth
      Gender
      Location
      Central Florida
      Posts
      16,083
      Likes
      4031
      DJ Entries
      149
      Quote Originally Posted by Meepo View Post
      It's a stupid argument because we know that dreams exist yet science can't prove them. I just wanted to point out your hypocrisy of using science only when it suits you to claim something as real.
      Saw the above post and just had to comment, while passing through...

      Science has already proven that both dreams and lucid dreams exist. Just because we can't see what other people are dreaming, doesn't mean that we don't have proof that people dream. Both dreams and lucid dreams are accepted facts, even in the mainstream scientific community.
      http://i.imgur.com/Ke7qCcF.jpg
      (Or see the very best of my journal entries @ dreamwalkerchronicles.blogspot)

    13. #13
      Member
      Join Date
      Jul 2008
      Posts
      9
      Likes
      0
      Quote Originally Posted by Oneironaut View Post
      Saw the above post and just had to comment, while passing through...

      Science has already proven that both dreams and lucid dreams exist. Just because we can't see what other people are dreaming, doesn't mean that we don't have proof that people dream. Both dreams and lucid dreams are accepted facts, even in the mainstream scientific community.
      It's just assumed that a person is dreaming during particular brainwave and REM states but it's not actually scientifically proven.

    14. #14
      "O" will suffice. Achievements:
      1 year registered Made lots of Friends on DV Referrer Gold Veteran First Class Populated Wall Tagger First Class 25000 Hall Points Vivid Dream Journal
      Oneironaut Zero's Avatar
      Join Date
      Apr 2005
      LD Count
      20+ Years Worth
      Gender
      Location
      Central Florida
      Posts
      16,083
      Likes
      4031
      DJ Entries
      149
      Quote Originally Posted by Meepo View Post
      but it's not actually scientifically proven.
      How do you figure this?
      http://i.imgur.com/Ke7qCcF.jpg
      (Or see the very best of my journal entries @ dreamwalkerchronicles.blogspot)

    15. #15
      Member Achievements:
      Created Dream Journal Tagger Second Class Made lots of Friends on DV 1000 Hall Points Veteran First Class
      Dthoughts's Avatar
      Join Date
      Dec 2010
      LD Count
      A few
      Gender
      Posts
      1,468
      Likes
      771
      DJ Entries
      72
      Quote Originally Posted by Oneironaut View Post
      Saw the above post and just had to comment, while passing through...

      Science has already proven that both dreams and lucid dreams exist. Just because we can't see what other people are dreaming, doesn't mean that we don't have proof that people dream. Both dreams and lucid dreams are accepted facts, even in the mainstream scientific community.
      Science hasn't proven anything. It just showed you that our eyes move while we sleep and our brain circuits. The only reason we are so sure it happens is because we experience it so much. But someone else can not possibly proof to you that dreaming is possible if you never experienced it urself.

    16. #16
      "O" will suffice. Achievements:
      1 year registered Made lots of Friends on DV Referrer Gold Veteran First Class Populated Wall Tagger First Class 25000 Hall Points Vivid Dream Journal
      Oneironaut Zero's Avatar
      Join Date
      Apr 2005
      LD Count
      20+ Years Worth
      Gender
      Location
      Central Florida
      Posts
      16,083
      Likes
      4031
      DJ Entries
      149
      Quote Originally Posted by Dthoughts View Post
      Science hasn't proven anything. It just showed you that our eyes move while we sleep and our brain circuits. The only reason we are so sure it happens is because we experience it so much. But someone else can not possibly proof to you that dreaming is possible if you never experienced it urself.
      The fact that someone can't prove to you something you never have experienced yourself does not mean that proof of said phenomenon doesn't exist.

      There have been more than sufficient studies on people and their dreams to determine (prove) that dreams do exist. I understand the point that you're trying to make, but the idea that dreams are something internal (and not 'provable' experiences to anyone outside ourselves) does nothing to deter the fact that the scientific study of dreams, REM cycles, brain activity, subject testimony and countless other methods have proven - beyond scientific scrutiny - that dreams exist.
      SystemsLock and fOrceez like this.
      http://i.imgur.com/Ke7qCcF.jpg
      (Or see the very best of my journal entries @ dreamwalkerchronicles.blogspot)

    17. #17
       Solarflare's Avatar
      Join Date
      Jan 2011
      Gender
      Location
      Colony 9
      Posts
      4,452
      Likes
      1650
      DJ Entries
      67
      It doesnt matter if they 'happen' or not, the mere fact you experience them is proof enough.

    18. #18
      Member Achievements:
      Created Dream Journal Tagger Second Class Made lots of Friends on DV 1000 Hall Points Veteran First Class
      Dthoughts's Avatar
      Join Date
      Dec 2010
      LD Count
      A few
      Gender
      Posts
      1,468
      Likes
      771
      DJ Entries
      72
      Quote Originally Posted by CACTUAR View Post
      Okay, so I remember when I was like 7, My Grandmother died. I would always have dreams about her. Not Lucid ones though. I thought it was reality, I would wake up in my dream and see her there. We would always just talk, I would tell her how much I loved and missed her and sometimes it would feel REALLY eerie and creepy. Especially when I'd wake up and realize it was a dream. One day I just put my hands together and told her I loved her but to stay out of my dreams for a while because it was getting to a point where I'd have the same dream over and over again. Well, not the same dream, we'd talk about different things but, she would always be there. I thought simply asking her spirit to stay away for a while wouldn't work and it was so illogical. After I did though, I stopped having the dreams. I thought it was the weirdest thing ever. Now I've realized that I have Lucid dreams. I know I'm dreaming. I thought I'd try asking Grandma if she would reenter my dreams again, just to see if it would work and sure enough it did work. It's still the same thing except that I am aware that I'm dreaming. I tried it with other passed relatives and again sure enough, I can invite any of my passed relatives' spirits into my dreams. But, that's my big question.. Is it really their spirits?? Or just my head playing tricks on me? Is it actually Grandma's spirit communicating with me? Am I Psychic to some extent? I know this should be a good thing but, for some reason it feels really creepy. Almost like they aren't gone. Anyway, I'm asking your guys' thoughts on this. I am VERY curious.
      There's definetly no way of ever telling what is really going on. But i know that dreams can be so vivid and real it becomes hard to really defining reality. Reading this looks like it was helpful and fun. And in a way a piece of ur grandma and relatives is still living vividly inside ur dreams. And they will be for as long as you remember them.

      My opinion is that it's all very real. It's just on a completely different dimension than normal reality.

    19. #19
      <span class='glow_9400D3'>saltyseedog</span>'s Avatar
      Join Date
      Jul 2010
      LD Count
      eternally
      Gender
      Location
      land of the lost pets
      Posts
      2,380
      Likes
      1522
      DJ Entries
      15
      So... if your relatives really want to contact you after they die they will. I've seen it more than once in my own family. In one my aunt was told by her son that died to look in a drawer and she went in his room and opened that drawer and found a journal.
      So just trust in them that they will do that and they will. Just be open to receiving what they send.

      Now if you want to contact her in a dream. Perhaps you could try and send out a message to her. try to send a message to her through a dream. Whatever way you can. I trust that she will receive the message.

      You know that feeling you got in the dream? that was her presence. To know its really her. You will feel her presence. rather than the emptiness that most dream characters feel like.
      fOrceez likes this.
      Our truest life is when we are in dreams awake

    20. #20
      Enlightened. Achievements:
      Tagger First Class Made lots of Friends on DV Referrer Bronze 1000 Hall Points Veteran First Class
      nqwDE's Avatar
      Join Date
      Dec 2010
      LD Count
      I lost count..
      Gender
      Location
      Tulare California.
      Posts
      189
      Likes
      34
      It would be nice to talk to them, but talking with them might make you hurt because there dead and can only talk to them through your dreams.
      REALITY CHECK

    Similar Threads

    1. Replies: 1
      Last Post: 05-18-2010, 06:04 AM
    2. Seeing deceased relatives in dreams
      By hypnocella in forum Lucid Experiences
      Replies: 2
      Last Post: 01-21-2010, 04:36 AM
    3. Connecting with passed away friends/relatives in dreams
      By Alexander12 in forum Beyond Dreaming
      Replies: 0
      Last Post: 08-05-2008, 12:26 AM
    4. Communicating In Dreams
      By lespaulsRcoo in forum General Lucid Discussion
      Replies: 8
      Last Post: 02-20-2007, 10:41 PM
    5. passed away father in dreams
      By brooke_109 in forum Dream Interpretation
      Replies: 3
      Last Post: 04-29-2006, 03:10 AM

    Bookmarks

    Posting Permissions

    • You may not post new threads
    • You may not post replies
    • You may not post attachments
    • You may not edit your posts
    •