Thread: How to Heal Disease and Illness in a Lucid Dream

Though this sounds a little far-fetched, though we have yet to fully understand the true powers of the mind. This does sound like it could work, but only for certain illnesses/diseases which can be cured by some means (i.e. not chronic diseases or (maybe) cancers). What I mean is, like you said, if you use this to combat an infection, your mind could likely tell your body to produce more cells to fight this infection, which results in faster healing. However, if used against chronic illnesses, I have some doubt.

I'll use eczema as an example (I, personally, have it) which is a chronic skin disease which is basically sensitive skin. It causes you to often break out into rashes or sores. As far as I'm aware of there is no cure for this, only treatments which reduce theese symptoms. I doubt that there is anyway your mind can cure yourself of this disease, simply because there has (to my knowledge) never been somebody who has been completely cured of it. I wouldn't be surprised if this technique could diminish the effects of having it, but I'm having a hard time believing it could completely cure it.

Now, don't take this the wrong way; I'm not dismissing your theory but I am not completely agreeing with it either. I could be proved completely wrong by somebody who tries this, and if I am, then we've found a cure for a previously un-curable disease! I would be very interested to see some results from experiments preformed by some people with both small health problems (like a cold or sore knees etc.) and chronic diseases (cancer, aids, etc). I may even experiment with this myself. It can't hurt

fantastic post

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i am very convinced that healing everything is more than possible and within a dream it would be easier since this state is another form of trance. i´ve found some interesting treatments in dreams in the literature....

keep on

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Originally Posted by Burke

I'll use eczema as an example (I, personally, have it) which is a chronic skin disease which is basically sensitive skin. It causes you to often break out into rashes or sores. As far as I'm aware of there is no cure for this, only treatments which reduce theese symptoms. I doubt that there is anyway your mind can cure yourself of this disease, simply because there has (to my knowledge) never been somebody who has been completely cured of it. I wouldn't be surprised if this technique could diminish the effects of having it, but I'm having a hard time believing it could completely cure it.

I have a friend who had the most chronic case of eczema I have ever seen. He had two sessions of reflexology and it was cured. That was 18 years ago and it hasn't returned.

Originally Posted by Burke

Now, don't take this the wrong way; I'm not dismissing your theory but I am not completely agreeing with it either.

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Originally Posted by mcwillis

I have a friend who had the most chronic case of eczema I have ever seen. He had two sessions of reflexology and it was cured. That was 18 years ago and it hasn't returned.

That's good to hear, I had no idea there were cures for it. However I did read that some people may grow out of it, but I never really considered it as a cure since it only works for some people. It may be due to the therapy or just him growing out of it (you'll find that I'm very critical and skeptical yet try to keep an open mind )

Originally Posted by mcwillis

I have a friend who had the most chronic case of eczema I have ever seen. He had two sessions of reflexology and it was cured. That was 18 years ago and it hasn't returned.


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You mean he cured himself while in a dream and it manifested in reality? is that what you mean?

No he didn't heal himslef with this lucid dreaming technique. Burke said that he has eczema and that there isn't a cure for it. I replied to Burke that my friend had his eczema cured by having two sessions with a reflexologist just to point out that it is curable. I have absolutely no doubt that the lucid dream healing technique would would cure Burke's eczema.

Nice post, ive yet to get to this level of control, though I definetly think lucid dreaming has potential to heal. What it can or cant heal is obviously debatable, but only if you give it a shot will you find out, plus there isnt anything to lose!

Please friends, how do i create a new thread?

Originally Posted by espsika

Please friends, how do i create a new thread?

Navigate to the correct sub-forum, then find the 'Post new thread' button, near the top.

thanks

That a very weird subject if someone believe it OK but personal its sound that when I tear my black lungs and wash it I don't have to afraid cancer and I won't cough

@mcwillis
Great post! I have never thought of summoning aura and doing healing on it. I have read similar technique, when you direct healing energy from your hand at your sleeping body. But your suggestion is a great alternative, when you end up in LD instead of OBE and you don't see your body or don't want to risk waking yourself up by looking at your acctual sleeping body.

Main thing in any of healing techniques is in my opinion, your absolute trust and expectation that it will work and acctually thinking of your healthy body as a done deal, in present tense.

Actually from my experince of practicing spiritual healing on myself and others belief is irrelevant. It works regardless of belief I have found.

I didn't mean religious belief. I meant belief in power of your mind, that it's possible to heal yourself. Or are you saying, that I don't need to believe that it will work and it still will work? If that's true, that's even better and i'll take it any day

Do you have any more techniques? Have you tried them on yourself or on someone else?

Originally Posted by WuChi

That a very weird subject if someone believe it OK but personal its sound that when I tear my black lungs and wash it I don't have to afraid cancer and I won't cough

Sorry friend but I cant understand your post.

With all due respect, science would conclude that such a thing is unlikely -- same can be said for reflexology. If you use it and say it works, more power to you, but I wouldn't put much faith in it myself. The warning at the top of the OP is good advice. Mind over matter may work for dreams, but reality is another... matter. Sure, there is the placebo effect, like Burke said; if you believe something strongly and positively you may get a sense of relaxation, and that could even lead to a general 'strengthening' of your immune system or psychology, etc... but a doctor, for example, would not prescribe a placebo for a problem that can be treated physically. Besides, you get the placebo effect with real treatment anyway. I simply wouldn't recommend ever putting off going to the doctor in favor of an untested alternative healing method.

That being said, this is far safer than taking all kinds of herbs and supplements or homeopathic remedies with who-knows-what as ingredients. Dreaming never hurt anybody... that I know of.

Originally Posted by empbac

That being said, this is far safer than taking all kinds of herbs and supplements or homeopathic remedies with who-knows-what as ingredients. Dreaming never hurt anybody... that I know of.

Actually homeopathic tablets for example have no trace of the original element in them and therefore from a purely current scientific view are completely safe. I would recommend reading, 'The Encyclopaedia of Medical Breakthroughs & Forbidden Treatments'. It will really open up your eyes to the propaganda machine of the pharmaceutical industry & just how poisonous and dangerous many man-made medicines really are compared to natural remedies used for the same diseases and illnesses.

Originally Posted by gab

I didn't mean religious belief. I meant belief in power of your mind, that it's possible to heal yourself. Or are you saying, that I don't need to believe that it will work and it still will work? If that's true, that's even better and i'll take it any day

Do you have any more techniques? Have you tried them on yourself or on someone else?

I understood you meant the power of the mind. Yes with spiritual healing it will still work if you don't believe in it. If I get something mild like a headache I will use EFT. When I started to get the first stages of arthritis I used spiritual healing to get rid of it. If I was to develop cancer I would use this thread's technique combined with spiritual healing. And if I was in a car accident and got impaled with a length of steel I would want a paramedic and then a bloody good doctor!

Originally Posted by mcwillis

Actually homeopathic tablets for example have no trace of the original element in them and therefore from a purely current scientific view are completely safe. I would recommend reading, 'The Encyclopaedia of Medical Breakthroughs & Forbidden Treatments'. It will really open up your eyes to the propaganda machine of the pharmaceutical industry & just how poisonous and dangerous many man-made medicines really are compared to natural remedies used for the same diseases and illnesses.

This is true regarding classic homeopathy, though sometimes products are labeled nowadays as homeopathic that actually aren't. It seems to be becoming an umbrella-term for alternative/natural remedies in general, at least in the States. And believe me, I know the pharmaceutical industry is fairly messed up. I don't, however, think it's a cut-and-dried issue. Research is what's important, that means on the part of the industry, the government, your doctor, and you, as a patient. You really can't trust any old thing that goes on the market, you have to study it, and even then there is always a risk. But herbs, supplements, etc, are even worse off because they aren't regulated by anyone at all. There's no knowing what you're really getting and no medical research to verify that it's safe or valid for what it claims to do. Though, sometimes there is research, and it often indicates that the product FAILS to do what it claims it does (Echinacea, St John's Wort, etc). When that's the case you won't see such reports hanging next to the product in question as it's sold in stores. And sales clerks at naturopthy stores are NOT certified to give any medical advice whatsoever.

All I'm saying is that science-based medicine is usually one's best bet if there is a real problem. The rest is okay for everyday stuff, but serious problems should be taken seriously. And dream healing sounds much safer and more fun than anything you can buy in a store.

This is generally why I favour medicinal methods that don't require putting anything alien into my body. Whether it be a leaf, complex chemical compound or particles of radiation. By the way, that Encyclopaedia has been written by a team of people that have worked for many years in the reseach arms of the chemical and herbal pahrmaceutical industries and it would utterly shock you.

Well, I can't argue there. Thanks for the recommendation, but I really don't have time to read an Encyclopedia right now. I need to stick to Google until I pass my computer exams.

@mcwillis

Couple of weeks ago I have tried your technique while lucid.

I was in a bombed out building in the middle of a war zone. I started to summon my aura and I remember my eyes got covered by my hand, so all I could see the floor underneath my palm and some slivers of light through gaps between my fingers. Unfortunatelly, I had to keep running up the stairs from the enemy. When I arrived in a brightly lit room, I uncovered my eyes and was very surprised to not see my aura there. But I know that had I stayed in one place, It would have worked. I will try again.
Peace.

Originally Posted by empbac

Sure, there is the placebo effect, like Burke said; if you believe something strongly and positively you may get a sense of relaxation, and that could even lead to a general 'strengthening' of your immune system or psychology, etc... but a doctor, for example, would not prescribe a placebo for a problem that can be treated physically.

Actually there were studies made recently that seems to conclude that the placebo effect is working even when people know that what they are given is placebo medicine made from only chalk and sugar. The simple act of eating something that looks like medicine helps cure you (and placebo injections should be even better!). So I can't see why spiritual healing wouldn't work even if you don't believe it.

I'm thinking that if you can be cured by eating something that doesn't contain anything that should be able to cure you, then the actual healing must come from within you. And in that case Lucid Dreaming might be a good way to unlock that potential.

And for eczema: It's curable for sure. My doctors told me as well that it isn't, but it is. I was covered in it from head to toe and it took a hell of a fight to get rid of it, but in the end I succeeded.

Personally (in ten years time when my lucidity is good enough) I'm going to try to heal my Tourettes through dreaming. Another incurable disease that I refuse to believe I can't conquer.

-Strit


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