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      Dream hacking contra Quantium Jumping

      i've been advertized this teqhnique and course of 'quantum jumping' in inets along some past weeks. It's funny how advertising targets these days. (I've been also target of DMT-advertising, fantasymusical casting calls and alex greys original artwork ) So basicly I'm not interested on paying some course which i think i can more freely study myself,, but the phenomeon of these things more commonly distributed gives some hope to me.

      Basicly what the techique sounds like is something of the Alan Moores new novel project he's been writing. It handells about paraller realities where paraller quantum versions of us exist. So anything you've ever dreamed to be allready exist in one of these paraller continuums. That's something how Moore talked about his veee-eery long book project.. This adverts I've been heving tell 'bout people who have "quantum-jumped" to meet these parts of themselfs and by doing that gained traits and characteristics of them, so basicly the 'hook' is that it's yet another improve yourself course that promises unbelivable results for those who succeed in it. Only one that is sugar-coated with new science. Google it if you fell into it. Do and try it if you believe in yourself or want to bust the myth.. teachers are fine for someone, but based on some of my dreams and new traits i've achieved by only dreaming and meditating my different sides I would say: don't get fooled ~ create your own quantum jumping way.

      Tricky thing for me has been, that I've found myself in different narratives of lifesituations, people who I've met have shared some memories and secrets with people who by my very memories were different ones in first place. It's been like I've lived through craziest scifi novels and movies that handdle questions of identity and illusionary reality. Transpersonal psychology and some teachins of some group (which i don't if it exist in this channel) have been key helpers in this thing that was brought to my mind for quantum jump emails. Meaning the backflash effects, quiet bubbles and other side-effects I've encountered while changing the channel of reality. Thing is that by my most rational experience, I have memories of things that either haven't happened in said reality or have been washed a way. Sometimes even combination of both.

      Dreamhackers used the terminology of bubbles (as ones own reality construct and dreamtravel vehicle), borderzones (space between two bubbles, where you meet your guide, who should lead to bubble of another dreamer) and some scenarios that get playbacked to you if you should fail and get imprisoned in lone shell. There are always some winks that hint you that you're not alone in your bubble but they're hidden in the sublines of actors and static noise of dull radio stream. They're there to help you out from every quiet you've maybe stucked in.

      So in this hacking scene I've met it's mostly about learning the laws by which every 'channel' or 'reality' or 'convolution' acts upon. Interdreamed stories and narratives (like music that exist in many channels) are points of study for they can give many advices about more cosmic laws, systems and stories. Then it's about hacking and cracking the system and breaking isolated bubbles for the sake of shared dreaming:::






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      One of the perils in these QJ kind of scenrios - unlike lucid dreams - is that you're putting yourself in the role of characret instead of author or director. So you may end up to have more like DC amount of power in a world dominated by ruler (be it director, author, artist or dictator etc etc). It can teach some empahty towards your own DCs but might be a new experince all together. For me thing about being subdued under some artist work has been great if not sometimes nightmarish experince. It hasn't been so hard to accept sifting rulescape and lawscape (like the very things that are customed and held as allowed have shifted between days and maybe hours, whole ticking of time has been more of scenelike than minutely,ticking) but the greater changes what it's held true and possible. Works like 'quantum tief' ~ by Finnish author and 'books of magic' ~ DC comics serie started by Neil Gaiman creator of Sandman,,, have shown my some problems of meeting altenate shelf. In BOM lead character Timonty Hunter travels in multidimension and reflects and meets many versions of him. One of these (my favorite for the tortured bad guys have great deepness in their person) starts t hunt and kill all the posible versions of Tim and original Tim get's his best antagonist from this shadowy Hunter of future who travels dimension killing his reflections and absorbing their powers. This is very close to starting chapter of Quantum Tief where the main character finds himself in the Game where he must fight his alternative version who learn instantlly from reaction he uses to fight the system. Second chapter starts the real story.

      I myself being both author and artist (which i prefer over trollbating term of magician even though they don't really differ) and a type who enjoys being character in works not done by me have seen the crazy and psychedelic [and very dreamlike] logic of this experience. You can't really be able to do great art until you've experinced something out of ordinary. Then after you can find yourself in other seat as well.

      Like: I can't be sure if i shipwrecked in this alone in island experince for it was my fate or choosing.. or is it because people dreamed this reality around for what I've written.. still enjoing the wonderfull new world
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