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Exogenous dream continuity: Exploring the matrix of entangled dreams | Van de Castle | International Journal of Dream Research
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Commentary IJODR
Exogenous dream continuity: Exploring the matrix of entangled dreams
Commentary on “The continuity and discontinuity between waking and dreaming: A Dialogue between Michael Schredl and Allan Hobson concerning the adequacy and completeness of these notions”
Robert L. Van de Castle
University of Virginia Medical Center, Charlottesville, VA, USA
*The topic under discussion in this issue of IJoDR (International Journal of Dream Research) involves the adequacy and completeness of the notions concerning what the primary authors (Schredl and Hobson) have offered concerning this topic, and then comment about the much more extensive critical evaluations proffered by Kelly Bulkeley and William Domhoff.
I will subsequently make available material from a previously unpublished chapter by Calvin Hall describing some of his laboratory studies that I think raise profound questions about how far ranging the parameters of dream continuity may extend. To amplify those questions, I describe some related [B]research by myself and others that support Hall’s empirical findings.
*I found the overall collection of papers in this dialogue interesting, although I was disappointed in the shallowness of the way that Schredl and Hobson presented their arguments regarding the continuity hypothesis. I completely agree with Kelly Bulkeley’s statement: “To neglect Domhoff’s word in a discussion of the scientific merits of the continuity hypothesis call into question the adequacy of any conclusions drawn from that discussion” (p. 48).
Similarly, I strongly concur with the opening paragraph by Domhoff: “The Schredl/Hobson discussion of continuity and discontinuity between dreaming and waking goes astray from the outset because Schredl provides an inadequate characterization of Calvin S. Hall’s “continuity hypothesis” in his opening statement and in Box 1.
More generally, their discussion minimizes and trivializes Hall’s main ideas and findings to the borderline of caricature. His continuity hypothesis and its anticipation of later developments in cognitive psychology deserves better (pg. 50). Domhoff then goes on to present a masterful and wide ranging summary of just how extensive the contributions were that Hall had made to the topic of dream continuity.
*Not covered in Domhoff’s review was the information that Calvin Hall was writhin a book entitled The scientific Study of Dreams that he did not complete before his death. He had chapter (7) entitled: “The Effects of Subliminal Stimuli on Dreams.” In his opening paragraph, Hall indicated (p. 139): “The procedure in the investigations to be reported consisted of presenting material to a person while he was in such a manner that all the ordinary channels of communication appeared to have been excluded.
Studies of this character are usually referred to as extrasensory perception or ESP experiments. … I prefer to use the term “subliminal stimulation” because it makes no assumptions about the manner in which the stimulus is transmitted or received. (~400 words)
(to be continued)
Studies of this character are usually referred to as extrasensory perception or ESP experiments. … I prefer to use the term “subliminal stimulation” because it makes no assumptions about the manner in which the stimulus is transmitted or received. (~400 words)
(continued)
It is a purely descriptive and theoretical term which describes the nature of the stimulating conditions.
In a subsequent paragraph. Hall notes (p.140):
“The literature abounds with accounts of prophetic and telepathic dreams, many of which have been reported by well-know people. A majority of persons with whom I have spoken on the subject can recall at least one dream that came true, and many of them have unshakable convictions that dreams can foretell the future. A psychologist with whom I am acquainted kept a record of his dreams for many years. In the beginning, he repudiated the idea of prophetic dreams as a primitive superstition. Gradually, his attitude began to change when he observed that some of he\is dreams presaged future events.
Today, after 30 years of keeping a dream diary, he is convinced that at least 10% of them are precognitive. By contrast, my personal dream diary contains only one dream that might be considered prophetic.”
At The International Conference of Parapsychological Association held in Utrecht in 2008, I delivered a paper entitled, “Dreams and ESP” (Van de Castle, Dreams and ESP, 2009), which reviewed the literature involving large scale surveys of spontaneous ESP dreams.
The largest collection of psychic experiences was compiled by Louisa Rhine who filed over 15,000 reports (Rhine, 1978, pg. 21). She indicated that over 60% of these reports consisted of dreams, and approximately 2/3 of these dreams could be classified as realistic. In my chapter, I listed five books about psychic experiences that each contain over 100 dream reports.
In my chapter, I listed five books about psychic experiences that each contain over 100 dream reports.
*On p. 141, Hall wrote:
“With the advent of sleep monitoring techniques and objective methods of content analysis, it has become possible to do fairly rigorous controlled experiments on the incorporation in dreams of material subliminally presented during sleep. In the language of parapsychology these are investigations of mental telepathy during sleep.”
The first set of experiments was conducted in the laboratory of the Institute of Dream Research under my personal supervision (Hall, 1967).* [*An informal discussion with Montague Ullman about his extrasensory perception experiments stimulated me to undertake these investigations.]
In this same paragraph (p. 142), Hall notes:
“It is not irrelevant to mention that when experiments were begun I was sceptical of obtaining positive results. … These personal observations are pertinent because investigators of psychic phenomena have been accused of finding what they want to find, and of not being sufficiently critical of their experiments.
Nothing that I had read concerning telepathic dreams had persuaded me of their reality.
As a result of our studies, I am fairly well convinced that dreams can be influenced by subliminal stimuli present during sleep (p.142).
Hall then provided a detailed description of the experimental procedures he utilized in his studies, and several pages later described some of his work with me.
*”The first two presentations with Van de Castle as the subject did not have any discernible effect on the dreams he reported.
*”The first two presentations with Van de Castle as the subject did not have any discernible effect on the dreams he reported.
The third topic consisted of watching a prize fight. The experimenter visualized a prize fight mentally, looked at pictures of prize fighters in a magazine, wrote out the message:
“You are watching a prize fight”.
And stood up and engaged in shadowboxing.
These activities were continued for about fifteen minutes.
When the subject was awakened, he reported a long dream into the tape recorder.
The first third of the dream was sexual in character, then the following episode was recorded:
“The setting shifted to a large auditorium and there was a boxing match going on. There were two young lightweight boxers who were fighting and one of them was doing much better than the other. It seems his opponent became vanquished and then another lightweight contender got into the ring with him. This new contender now started to give a pretty savage beating to the other boxer who was at one point kind of started to use a double punch where both hands would be brought from the outside and would simultaneously hit the other boxer’s head at the same time.
My sentiments began to be for the underdog, and I remember standing up and throwing a few imaginary punches myself because I was so involved with the action in the ring.”
The description of the fight continued for 9 more lines, and then shifted back to the theme of the first part of the dream” (p. 145).
The description of the fight continued for 9 more lines, and then shifted back to the theme of the first part of the dream” (p. 145).
*Although I experienced this dream back in 1967, I can still recall the vividness and intensity of that dream 45 years later. It served as my personal introduction to the reality of psychic phenomena, even though I had an extensive reading background on the subject matter for 15 years prior to that time. For the person experiencing this kind of impactful dream, no amount of scepticism by omniscient scientists can ever dissuade an experiencer of this kind of powerful psychic event that they were deluded.
If you get hit by a truck, you know that you hit by a truck, and no amount of critical comments ‘by these arbiters of reality’ will ever convince you that the truck that hit you was an imaginary truck.
*Given Hall’s propensity to quantify dream content, the reader should not be surprised to find that Hall attempted to evaluate the likelihood of the prize fighting dream by resorting to some effort to quantify what the odds might be for such a dream to be experienced by a particular dreamer.
“In our investigation, we were able to determine the probability that a dreamer would have a dream in which the stimulus material was represented. The determination was made in the following manner.
First,
We collected a number of dreams from the subject which were dreamed during nights other than when the particular topic had been transmitted.
We then
Examined each of these dreams to see whether there was any mention of the stimulus material in it. For example, we obtained 97 dreams from the subject who had dreamed of a prize fight when that topic was sent.
There were no mention of a boxing match in any of the 97 dreams, so that the chances of this having such a dream was absolutely nil for this sample of dreams.
This is actually not a fair test because if he had dreamed of any kind of fighting and not just boxing, it would have been counted as a congruence. So we went through the 97 dreams again and noted every dream in which any kind of fighting appeared. There were four such dreams. The chances are four out of 97, or about one out of 25, that on any specific night, the subject would dream of a fight.
This does not rule out coincidence…probabilities never do… but it lends support to the existence of a causal relationship between the subliminal stimulation and the dream” (p. 153)
In commenting about the boxing dream, Hall stated:
"Several things will be noted about the incorporationinto the dream of the topic.
First,
it was a very direct reproduction of what the experimenter was thinking about and pantomiming.
Second,
the boxing episode was inserted into the dream and appeared to have no connection with what went before it and what followed it.
This inserted quality is also what one finds when a sleeping person is stimulated by a sound, a light, or drops of water. It appears that the subject recieved the message in the middle of a dream which was interupted in order to incorporate the subliminal stimulus and then returned to the main dream again.
Third,
the subjects personal involvement in the action by standing up and throwing a few imaginary punches may have reflected the experimenter's rather spirited but silent pantomiming in the next room ." (that's paragragh 8).
DebraJane,
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Thanks for posting this DebraJane. I'll look into this more this week when I have more time.
Paragragh 9
These experiments were then conducted with 5 other subjects on whom a total of 121 presentations of stimilus material were made
In 56 of these presentations, some corrospondence was noted between the material that was sent and the contents of the dream that were subsequently reported.
These corrospondences were not usually as close as those observed in the prizefight dream (p. 144-146).
Some examples of the correspondences found with these 5 dreamers is reported in my book, Our Dreaming Mind (p. 148) and also in a German publication, "Experiments on Telepathy Influenced Dreams" (Hall 1967b).
Paragraph 10
In addition to the main findings of the experiments, a number of interesting observations were made.
On one subject we varied the procedure by placing a sealed envelope containing a typed description of a topic under the mattress of the bed in which the subject slept.
The envelope was selected at random from a bunch of envelopes so that neither the experimenter nor anyone else knew what the topic was.
Nor did the subject know the envelope was there.
A new envelope containing a different topic was used every night for 17 nights.
In four of the 17 dreams that were reported (the subject was awakened only once a night), the experimenter found evidence that the stimulus material was represented in the dream.
Independent judges correctly matched three of the dreams with the topics.
The probability of the topic appearing in a dream by chance was computed by examining the other dreams reported by the subject.
The probabilities were 16 in a 100, 2 in a 100, and less than 1 in a 100.
These results suggest that another form of subliminal stimulation (in parapsychology it would be called clairvoyance) may have been responsible for the incorporations.
With only one subject, the findings cannot be more than suggestive, however (p. 157).
Calvin Hall's (1909 - 1985)
Career
*After receiving his Ph.D., Hall then taught for three years at the University of Oregon as an assistant professor. Because of his growing research reputation, he was appointed departmental chair and professor in psychology in 1937 at Western Reserve University. He held these positions for the next 20 years.
During this time he began the process of switching his research emphasis to dream content, the area for which he is best known. Other universities he taught at were Syracuse University (1957–59), the University of Miami (1959–60), and Catholic University in Nigmegen, Netherlands (as a*Fulbright scholar in 1960-61).
From 1961 to 1965, Hall studied at his Institute of Dream Research in Miami and established the similarity in dream content throughout the night by studying dreams collected in the dream laboratory. He and*Robert Van de Castle, during this time, developed a comprehensive coding system that revolutionized the objective study of dream content.[2]
*In his empirical work, he showed that dreams between people across the world are more similar than they are different.*[3]
Calvin S. Hall - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Paragraph 11
Hall also extended his explorations in another direction that produced interesting results.
"Sometimes, the sleep of two subjects was monitered on the same night. The subjects slept in separate rooms which were located on either side of the room in which the EEG was kept. Occasionally, the two subjects would have REM periods close together in time, and in two instances a striking congruence between the dreams reported by the subjects from these REM periods was was noted".
(...)
Subject A dreamed of receiving a special delivery letter and subject B dreamed that his sister was writting a letter which was to be sent at a special rate.
On another occasion,
Subject B dreamed of going into a store to buy something.
(...)
Subject C reported a dream in which he went to a store to buy something (p. 157 - 158).
[This finding of dream of dream to dream correspondence was also investigated in a sleep laboratory by A. Rechtschaffen and will be described later in this paper.
Extensive non-laboratory studies on mutual dreaming have been studied by Linda Magallon (1997) and on Group Dreaming by Jean Campbell (2006)].
This is interesting but I'm too hyper to read any of it, could you give us a quick interpretation/synopsis and your opinion about the topic?
I am only interested in the "Doing" of Bob Vandercastle's life work.
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(1:14) What will the future be?
Suppose you had access to the information in every persons brain and they had access to your's. What would happen? Has it happened? Can it happen? And what would it mean for the future of human society?
(Answer: No more secrets)
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(1:39) Are we all connected? The answer's "yes". We are all immersed in the Earth's magnetic field. The human species is about 7 billion conductive brains all sharing this field.
(3:20) Calculations suggest that the time required for an event in one human brain to diffuse into all other brains on this planet would be about ten minutes.
And it would occure primarily during, "DREAMS" or during altered states.
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(5:42) Usually is takes place when the geo-magnetic activity is less intense.
(6:10) When it's geo-magnetically quiet, the connections between all 7 billion brains have greater possibility.
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Paragragh 12
As a consequence of my results as a "successful" telepathic dreamer with Calvin Hall, I was invited to participate as a subject at Maimonides Hospital in Brooklyn where M. Ullman and S. Krippner were conducting their systematic program of investigating telepathic dreaming in a laboratory setting.
I was studied for 8 nights during a 44 week period and worked with 3 different senders
On each experimental morning, I had to choose and rank order which of 8 potential target pictures I thought had been sent by the agent.
If I gave a ranking of 1-4 to the correct target picture, it was considered to be a "hit".
If I gave a ranking of 5-8 to the correct target picture, it was considered a "miss".
I scored a total of 8 "hits" for the 8 nights of my participation.
(Reader, scroll-up to first and second post of this thread to find the link to where you can print-out all 8 pages, {42 paragraghs} of this report.)
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Originally Posted by debrajane
I also participated as a telepathic dreamer at David Foulkes' laboratory at the university of Wyoming to investigate whether my previously successfull results in Brooklyn could be replicated there.
Although in his article for this synposium, Domhoff claims that Foulkes is the best laboratory dream researcher of the 20th century (p. 55), I would take exception to that laudatory evaluation.
For starters, rather than a 44 week period as had been involved at Maimonides, Foulkes' study was completed within a 2 week period during a chilly mid-winter semester break.
The social climate that I experienced there was equally chilly in comparison to the 'red carpet' reception I received on every occasion at Maimonides.
There were several other experimental designe factors that I felt played a significant inhibitory role in my not achieving statistically significant positive results at Wyoming.
My detailed critique of Foulkes' study is presented in my chapter entitled "ESP in Dreams: Comments on a Replication "Failure" by the failling Subject", which appeared in the 2nd edition ofQuote:
Dream Telepethy: Explorations in Nocturnal ESP by [b] Ullman, Krippner andVaughn (1989).
In the original version of this book entitled, Dream Telapathy: Scientific Experiments in the Supernatural, by these same authors (1973), there was a chapter entitled, "Sleep, Psyche, and Science" in which Foulkes commented upon his study involving me:
Quote:
"In retrospect we may have shared too much on the side of "scientism" to the exclusion of creating conditions in which telepathy might reasonably (if it exists at all) be expected to flourish.
It proved hard to escape the role of protector of scientific purity or guardian of the scientific morals.
Were we sympathetic and encouraging observers (?)
or
scientific detectives out to prevent the crime from being committed before our very eyes?...
Particularly revealingpersonally, was a brief moment in intrapsychic panic when it seemed as though some telepathic influence might be "comming through"
--how could that be?
Where had I failed to prevent a sensory leakage?
Our subject (Van de Castle) clearly felt himself on trail before a not entirely sympathetic jury,
and
we also could not totally avoid the feeling that we too were on trial,
with a favorable verdict for the subject raising doubts as to the scrupulosity effort judgment process...
There is no place for sloppy dream research whether on telepathy or anything else.
But
Being rigorous is a different matter from insecurely flaunting one's rigor as we may have done in our first study" (p 236).
A few sentences later Foulkes reported:
Quote:
"I have experienced a personally impressive instance of apparent (Dream) telepathy in another laboratory study ostensibly unrelated to ESP.
While working one night on our continuing study of children's dreams, I was watching for the appearance of a REM period in the sleep of an preadolescent girl ...
I picked up and began editing a review of an article on the effects of thirst on the sleep cycle.....
The reviewer's second point was that:
"The cheese and crackers bedtime snack added a new and seemingly unnecessary aspect to the deprivation condition"....
The subject was now in a REM period and I initiated an awakening (p. 237):
She reported a dream in which a man came to her house and had a snack and someone asked the dreamers father if he wanted a beer. Her father decided he wanted one, even though he was a strict teetotaler. Then there were "these three boxes of crackers ...
one box of crackers had two white pieces, white crackers, and then a little piece of cheese between, a whole pack like that, and then the other box of crackers was white and the other packages were brown, and each of the three kids got one, and we kept trading around with them" (p. 237).
Foulkes noted that this girl had no dreams of thirst-cheese-crackers in any of the other 25 nights they had observed her dreams, nor had
"this particular combination of elements ever occurred in hundreds of dreams we have collected from other children in the same study in which the subject was serving" (p. 237).
Foulkes admitted;
"an experience such as this keeps alive one's spark of interest in telepathic dreams , whatever the outcome of his own more formal experiments... The atmosphere was quite in contrast to the highly self-conscious "we're-all-on-trial" environment in our first formal replication study" (p. 238).
The Maimonides program was a very labor-intensive project and it took 7 years to complete 379 spi sessions.
In order to 'streamline' the process, a new technique was devised by British psychologist Simon Sherwood and Chris Roe from the University of Northhampton, England.
In this experiment,
a computer is programmed to automatically select a picture from a random pool of pictures
and
display the target image
repeatedly
through the night
on a computer monitor
in an empty room.
Each participant kept track of their dreams at home,Quote:
Originally Posted by debrajane
and the next morning all participants went to the lab and viewed four pictures,
only one of which was the selected target.
They then ranked their preference as to which most closely matched their dream images.
Their rankings were combined to create a single consensus vote on the most agreed-upon match. This new arrangement allowed the dreamers to pick up on the target stimulus,
but
did so in a way that didn't require:
a special laboratory,
all night technitians,
or even
separate senders
or
judges.
In 2003, Sherwood and Roe reviewed all of the dream studies from the original Maimonides series and these latest 'at home' dream experiments.
They (Sherwood and Roe) evaluated fourty-seven experiments involving a total of 1,270 trials and concluded:
that the successful 'hit rate' was so much greater than what would be if only a random event were involved,
that the odds against chance were 22,000.000,000 to 1 (Radin, 2006, p, 109).
Dr. Allan Rechtschaffen, Professor Emeritus in the Department of Psychiatry and Psychology at the University of Chicago, is a noted pioneer in the field of sleep research.
He was invited to present an experimental design for a 1968 conference in France sponsored by the Parapsychology Foundation on Methodology in Psi Research.
In his opening remarks, (Rechtschaffen, 1970) stated:
"I was assigned the job of presenting a design of an experiment in ESP, based on current sleep and dream research...I thought I ought to do an ESP experiment before I presented a design.
So
during the the past month I ran a little pilot study together with a student of mine, Mr James Kahn...
The basic idea of the experiment was that if a psi signal is best recieved during an altered state of consciousness, perhaps it is also best generated during the same or similar state.
Therefore,
we wanted both the signal and reception to occure in an altered state of consciousness, namely a dream. ...
We noted a good deal of correspondence, quite anecdotally, between dreams occurring about the same time in the night by two sleepers (p. 87-88)."
The best example of this was the following, recorded with two subjects who knew each other quite well:
"In the first dream,
one subject dreamt about students singing in Russsian and the other subject dreamt about students doing some kind of interpretive singing.
In the second dream,
the first subject was taking a violin lesson and the other subject was learning a guitar melody.
In the third dream,
the first subject was watching a James Cagney gangster movie, and the other subject reported a dream about a recent gangster movie, Bonnie and Clyde (p. 89). ..."
As the subjects knew each other, the possibility of collusion, which we really doubt, could not be rulee out.
So
...
So ...
We had to go on and introduce experimentally an external stimulus into the dream.
We did this by post hypnotic suggestion.
Before the subject went to sleep for the night, he was hypnotized,
and
while he was in trance we told him that during the night, he would have a certain dream.
Dear reader
To get a copy of this riviting report from the Grandaddy of Psi Dreamers, (rvdc) goto post two and print the pdf.
"The very first night that we tried it, we told the subject that he would dream the death of Martin Luther King and of a fear of riots,
and
He dreamt that Martin Luther King had been shot and that somebody threw a rock and they were afraid a riot would would start.
The other subject, who had not recieved any suggestion, dreamt of a Negro policeman who was beating another man and he was afraid that sombody would throw a brick and start a riot."
"On the other night we told this subject to dream he was in an amusement park, having a very good time. He dreamt that and specifically he dreamt about riding on a merry-go-round.
The other subject had a dream of people laughing and running in circles and there were 'grining funny looking horses' in his dream."
Rechtschaffen then decided to use hypnosis to investigate the possibility of inducing SIMULTANEOUS dreams.
He reported some very striking correspondences between these hypnotically induced dreams.
In his discussion of his overall results at this conference and in responding to the many questions posed to him, Rechtscaffen made several comments about features he would consider in any future research that I would like to emphasize.
On page 94, he stated:
"We would allow at least a week between sessions".
I focus on that comment because of my earlier criticism of Foulkes when I had to cram my entire testing protocol into a 2 week period
rather than the 44 week protocol that I was allowed at Maimonides.
He also observed that
"when you simply have judges match a dream against a suggested topic, a hit does not reveal the degree of the hit.
A simple matching procedure does not take into account the very unlikely probability of such a specific occurence". (p. 92)
And
Finally I found myself intrigued with his questioning comment
"We thought that maybe the question is not so much
what do dreams mean.
But
whose dream are you having?"
(p. 89)
My first impressive personal introduction to the realm of
"entangled dreams"
and the question of
whose dream are you having
occurred when I conducted an informal experiment on November 17, 1985.
The setting was my home in Charlottesville, Virginia.
I had previously announced to readers of the
Dream Network Bulletin
that I would concentrate on a target picture that night
and
I invited them to send me accounts of the dreams they experienced that night.
A total of twenty percipients responded to my request.
The target picture involved a black and white photograph of Kuna Indian Woman from Panama standing in front of a house with slanted, wooden walls and thatched palm roof. (picture)
Dear Reader
I just went to Google in hopes of finding the above picture. It is in the pdf from the link in the first post in this thread.
I didn't find the photo of the Kuna Indian woman from Panama standing in front of her house.
But I did find something else. Stay tuned (hehehe).
It reads
2011 Psi Dream Contest Results
Each year, since 1985, at the Annual IASD Conference, a Psi Dream*Contest (formerly known as a Dream Telepathy Contest) is held. *
Consistent results are obtained, year after year. *Results from the 2011 conference held in Kerkrade, The Netherlands, proved to be the same.
In brief, this is how the contest works. *
A "sender" is chosen from*
among the attendees, in this case it was a Dutch dreamer, Suzanne*Wiltink, who has shown some success with dream telepathy in the past.
Prior to the contest, four opaque manila envelopes were prepared.
Each*
contained an 8 1/2 x 11 sheet of paper with a full color image on it.
The*images were intentionally chosen so they would be as different from*each other as possible in theme, color, setting, objects, shapes, etc.
To begin the contest on Saturday night, the attendees gathered and*Suzanne was asked to choose one envelope from the four. *
She then*retired to her room for the night, where she opened the envelope and*started focusing on the image and attempted to telepathically send the*image to the dreamers. *
In the meantime, the dreamers have now retired*and set an intention to receive the image in their dreams.
On Sunday, the dreamers complete and submit a Psi Dream Contest*Entry Form, where they title the dream, answer questions detailing*specific features of their dreams and are asked to guess at what the*target is.
On Monday the images are displayed and the entrants are then asked to*guess which of the four images was the target. *
This is the image that Suzanne chose:
Psi Dreaming Contest Results 2011
It is the Major Arcana, 5 Knowledge, card from the Shapeshifter Tarot*Deck, which is equivalent to the Hierophant card in a traditional deck. It*shows a woman shapeshifting into an elephant and represents, learning*
as "Knowledge is the Bringer of the Light, and the woman ..represents the living link to the eternal Sacred Mysteries."
The first 14 words of the WINNER's dream report reads, "Woman with a*highly developed spiritual consciousness and KNOWLEDGE and*experience of other realms." At the end of the dream she reports seeing*
the woman at a table with flashcards in front of her with images on them*and says, "I feel drawn to looking at the images on the cards."
Our 2nd place dreamer titled his dream, "Gold Star Face" and his dream*report reads, "Image of a 5 pointed gold star. *In the center is a face. The*face makes a comical face at me."
Our 3rd place dreamer, in response to the question on the contest entry*form, "What do you think the target image is?" answered, "A Star" and drew a picture of a five-pointed star.
Three great hits! *In addition, there were a number of great hits on the 3*non-target images (the three that remained in the unopened envelopes).*
This, too, is not unusual. *There are also some great correspondences*between the dreamers that have nothing to do with any of the images.
Once again this year, our dreamers were all swimming together in a*cosmic ocean of dreams.
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Dear Reader
It is on again. The above post is about last years Psi Dreamimg Competition at IASD (the International Association for the Study of Dreams) Conference.
Hit this link to find out about this years conference Psi Dreaming Competition.
International Association for the Study of Dreams :: View topic - Psi Dreaming Contest at Berkeley Conference
Here is the first bit of the post:
Psi Dreaming Contest*
Saturday night, June 23, 2012*
Rita Dwyer, Bob Van de Castle, Bobbie Ann Pimm and Angel Morgan*
Try your Psi*
Test your dreaming mind's ability to tune into our “sender” psychically during the night.
The annual IASD contest is a playful but surprisingly successful way to test your psychic skills.
Below are the instructions and details concerning this year’s contest, which is officially being called a “psi” contest rather than a “telepathy” contest because we know there are other psychic channels by which information can be obtained.
This year we are returning to the old protocol of one target image chosen from a pool of four.*
Are you selling something?
How is the TARGET Selected and Sent?*Quote:
Originally Posted by Phion
Four color images, as unlike from each other as possible, have been placed in four opaque envelopes.
The “Sender”, Angel Morgan, will select one of the four envelopes.
The image within the selected envelope will be the TARGET for the contest.
Angel will open the envelope upon returning to her room for the night.
She will focus on the image and then “act out” the image by engaging in physical activities to experience the sensed emotionality, hear or make any potential sounds associated with the image, and to “become” the target image in as many ways as possible.
Angel is a lucid dreamer,
so
she will also attempt to incorporate the target imagery into her dreams.*
Yep Phion I am selling folk on giving this a go.
How do I Participate Online?*
Please email your dream report to
*[email protected]
*no later than 9:00 pm Pacific Time, Sunday, June 24th.
Also tell me your birth date, time and place.*
On Monday morning, June 25th, four (4) images will be posted at the conference -- one (1) on each of four (4) boxes.
One of these will be the TARGET image the sender concentrated on overnight Saturday.
The images will also be posted in this discussion thread shortly thereafter.
No later than 9:00 pm Pacific Time, Monday, send an email to the same address,
*[email protected]
*advising which of the four images you believe was the target image that Angel focused on.*
Why are you asking for my birth information with the Dream Report?*
We are interested in seeing if there is a correlation between planetary placement in astrological charts and successful psi dreaming.
In previous research Bob was involved with, he found some striking correspondences in dream images that he and another woman (a stranger to him) experienced one night even though there was a distance of 500 miles between them while sleeping.
While doing some follow up work, it was discovered that he and this woman shared many astrological placements in common. We are hoping to investigate this more extensively.*
Please be advised that judging will only be done on the Onsite submissions, but you are encouraged to identify your own hits and toot your own horn in the discussion thread.
Onsite winners will be posted once the conference is over.*
Times and Deadlines*
Saturday 9:15 pm Pacific Target Selected*
Sunday 9:00 pm Pacific Dream Report Entry Deadline*
Monday 9:00 pm Pacific Target Selection Deadline*
Tuesday night Onsite Winners announced at Dream Ball*
NOTE: By participating in this contest you give permission to use your initials and dream details in any articles, or other media, that the contest hosts and/or judges may publish/release.*
Good luck!!!
By listening to on-line chatter
I just found out that There are 450 attendees at the 29th Annual Conference at Berkeley, California. It is running from Yesterday the 22nd to Monday the 26th.
I just emailed my (last nights) dream and I hope it has some hits to the target picture that the Sender is puting out there.
This is my PsiDream compitition dream.
Knocking on window.
I goto and lift netcurtain from fulllength window.
One young guy at bottom left is talking to a Mark. There is another youg guy at top right (diagonal) of window talking to Mark too. The guys giggle as I comically look diagonally from one to the other.
I say that I will find Mark for you.
I run down long carpeted halls.
I find a big room and know Mark is at the big table, with 17 young men playing cards with Master. I say "Who/where is Mark". Some point. But I'm not sure who tjey pointed to so I ask again, "Where/who is Mark". Everyone at table point to Mark.
I say two friends are outside waiting for you at window 17/27.
Marck leaves to see friends saying "" and I reply "we can set them up in the trees" and several giggle.
I go to change into crisp white shorts and shirt.
International Association for the Study of Dreams :: View topic - Psi Dreaming Contest at Berkeley Conference
Ooop I was too early
Bobbie Ann Pimm had just posted this:
So, good, because anyone reading this can remember and record their next dream and hope to hit on what the Sender Angel puts out there.Quote:
Angel has chosen the target. Dream on ... and good luck.
We "off-sighters" can't win any prizes but it is still a lot of FUN to have a go.
Go here:
International Association for the Study of Dreams :: View topic - Psi Dreaming Contest at Berkeley Conference
to send your next dream to Bobbie Ann Pimm
(16:01)Seeing this neural activity as your own, while excluding the environment, would be a misconception.*
Our superorganismal features are also reflected in evolution, where our survival as primates relied on our collective abilities. Over time, the neocortical regions evolved to permit the modulation of primitive instincts and the overriding of hedonistic impulses for the benefit of the group. Our selfish genes have come to promote reciprocal social behaviours in superorganismal structures, effectively discarding the notion of ‘survival of the fittest’.*
The brain’s neural activity resonates most coherently when there is no dissonance between these advanced new cerebral regions and the older more primitive ones. What we traditionally call ‘selfish tendencies’ is only narrow interpretation of what self-serving behaviour entails, wherein human characteristics are perceived through the flawed paradigm of identity…*
instead of through a scientific view on what we are:*
(We are) a momentary expression of an ever-changing unity with no center.
The psychological consequences of this as an objective belief system allow self-awareness without attachment to the imagined self, causing dramatic increases in mental clarity, social conscience, self-regulation and what’s often described as ‘being in the moment’.*
Oops wromg thread should be in "Athene's Theory of Everything"
(17:50)
Dear friends
For those who hoped to dream of the psi dream target, here are the four pictures.
Psi2012Berkeley
Look at the last dream you had and see which picture corrosponds to your dream.
Remember dreams communicate in metaphore. Which of these 4 is the one, Angel Morgan the sender was transmitting?
International Association for the Study of Dreams :: View topic - Psi Dreaming Contest at Berkeley Conference
5/133 5:20pm Tues 26-June-22 here in Adelaide, Australia now
When I first saw the pics I was disappointed cos nothing corrosponded to my dream. Here is my dream:
My guess is, it is the monkey. (hahaha)Quote:
Originally Posted by debrajane
Dear Reader
I believe we are all one being in billions of individual bodies. So you may have picked-up what the sender was sending. Did your last dreams have metaphors to any of these pictures?
Here are the 4 pics that the sender chose from to send.
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Dear friends
Bobbie Ann Pim posted this today:
So, I didn't hit.Quote:
Sorry for the delay, just getting back home. The TARGET image was the DANCE.
Did you have a go? I hope you did.
Dear Reader
I am now continuing from post 44. Here is post 44:
Paragraph 22 (d)Quote:
Originally Posted by debrajane
(fig1) A detailed description of the results is reported in my book Our Dreaming Mind (Van de Castle, 1994, pp 433-436).
There were many correspondences to the target picture...
Link to target picture in my next post.
Opening Post:
Picture is on the 4th page of the pdf which is page 12 of the International Journal of Dream Research Volume 5, No. 1 (2012)Quote:
Originally Posted by debrajane
Paragraph 22 (d)
(fig1) A detailed description of the results is reported in my book Our Dreaming Mind (Van de Castle, 1994, pp 433-436).
There were numerous correspondences to the target picture such as:
mentioning a short sleeve blouse,
unusual ankle jewelry,
foreign locations,
and children.
One woman, Claudia B. from Brooklyn, who was a complete stranger to me, mentioned her young daughter, hands on a structure of beams and poles, wooden sliding doors and a building with an unusual-looking roof. In my written associations to the target picture, I mention that a thatched roof provides good protection from the rain. Claudia mentioned dreaming she heard rain falling and realised she didn't have an umbrella.
I recalled four dreams that night and there were striking correspondences between my dreams and Claudia's dreams.
Paragraph 23 next.
Paragragh 23
My first dream involved a fishing dream:
"I was somtimes on a boat and sometimes on shore
The man I was with caught two large flounder and a woman insisted that I put them on top of the boat and gut them.
I attempted to cut the fish open with a razor blade.
Some blood came out;
the fish's face turned into a man's face and he was bleeding.
I told him to rinse his face with water and said
I would need his advice as to how to cut around his ears and nose.
Paragraph 24
Claudia managed to to pick up on the imagery of my dream to a remarkable degree. Here is an excerpt from here first dream.
"I am outdoors, perhaps on the deck of a ship ...
mounting the fresh, whole wet skin of small whale or whale's head (fish-size) on a board.
After removing one eye, (it's a side view) with the knife I'm using, I hear a conversation ...
(this could be influenced by a recent waking experience of washing flounder for cooking, not removing their heads.) I felt a kinship, or sympathy, with the whale, which at some point transforms into a person.
The wet, stretched, mounted skin is now a man's face, reddish-brown."
Paragraph 25 next
The odds against two complete strangers on the same night, geologically separated by 500 miles, dreaming of being on a boat cutting open a fish and having the face of the fish turning into a bloody man's face are astronomical, and that both dreamers specifically mentioned flounder seems to argue against any notion that the correspondences are a chance occurrence.
Although not as striking in matching details, another female dreamer saw an:
"animal face and an animal with an open wound that I wamted to sew up or heal before too much was lost. "
Paragraph 26 next
Paragraph 26
My next dream
involved providing drinks that cost $0.41 each for a group of studemts working on a project.
In Claudia's next dream
she had stolen some money with several other people and offered to count another person's share. She wrote down figures which were an "odd amount of dollars and cents."
My second dream also involved something about a mother dividing a cake or other dessert into two portions.
In her (Claudia's) second dream, Claudia's daughter was with her and asked the others to count out a share with "equal denominations".
In my second dream, the scenario involved a group of students and a project ,
while in Claudia's third dream she described a group of people watching a film depicting college students and the instructor was working on an art project.
Paragraph 27 next.
Other dreamers besides Claudia also seemed to tune into various features mentioned in my first dream involving a water setting, a boat and fishing.
They mentioned an ocean, an ocean ship, a river, a boat, a yacht, oars for a rowboat, fishhooks and a hook
There is no material in the target image that bears any relationship to any of this shared dream material.
Parahraph 28
In my 3rd dream, there was crowd of people in a slanted auditorium, and some board members and I were sitting down to eat at a table on the main floor.
A total of eleven dreamers made references to activities taking place at different elevations -
in a grandstand,
on stage,
in the balcony,
in a theater,
ect.
Paragraph 29 next.
In my 4th dream, I was using a hose to water down a pile of leaves.
Two of the nine male dreamers reported urinating in their dreams,
and
one woman dreamed that something like tea was being splashed or dripped on the rippled pages of a magazine.
Paragraph 30 next.
Unlike Rechtschaffen's study where subject subject B was instructed to dream about subject A's dream, who the A and B subjects are in my study is impossible to decide.
Since 1985, the International Association for the Study of Dreams (IASD) has carried out an informal testing protocol that allows interested conferees to participate in "telepathic dreaming contest" at their annual conferences.
The most typical protocol
involved a "sender" that focused on a target image (chosen at random from a pool of four images) several times a night,
as
the participants ("receivers") slept.
In the morning,
the pool of four possible images was shown to the participants
who then placed their dream reports into the box which displayed the image they believed was the target (based on their dreams).
The protocols for the first 25 years were not designed meet scientific standards, but to provide conferees an opportunity to participate in a light-hearted fashion to explore whether they could dream about the contents of a target stimulus that they had not previously seen.
Year after year, participants dreamed and chose the target image to an impressive degree, and to the suprise of everyone (initially) also dreamed of the three none-target images in the pool as well.
P30 (D)
But
the most impressive finding was the dream correspondences displayed between the dreamers
on objects
and themes
that were not shown in any of the target stimuli.
Paragraph 31 next.
Starting in 2010, the contest design changed to meet more stringent scientific standards.
The hits on:
the target picture,
non-target content
and
dream-to-dream shared correspondences in imagery
continued.
Below is a summary of the dream-to-dream results from the contesys held in
2009
2010 and
2011.
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It is the 11th annual pdc
It runs 24/7 on-line for 2 weeks.
There will be three psi-dream (share dream) opportunities.
Goto Opening Post, print out this paper and be fully informed on how the International Association for the Study of Dreams (IASD) study share dreaming
Then register for the 11th pdc and witness "It" unfold.
The methodology used in the 2009 contest was the same as previous conference contests and was based loosely on the Maimonides protocol. Bobbie Ann Pimm chose four images, as dissimilar as possible from one another, and placed each into a sealed opaque envelope prior to the conference.
On the night of the contest conferees gathered and instructions were given.
The 'sender', Angel Morgan, was introduced and she selected one of the pre-prepared sealed envelopes.
Bobbie Anne kept the remaining three envelopes sealed in her room for the night.
Angel opened the envelope in her room. She then spent some time focusing on the image, meditated and went to sleep.
As a prolific lucid dreamer, she had a lucid dream,
woke up and recorded the dream.
Then
she meditated,
fall asleep and
repeated the the process several times. In all, she recorded 8 lucid dreams during the night.
In the morning
Bobbie Ann took the pool of four images and taped one image on each of the four cardboard boxes, which were then placed prominently on display.
Conferees subsequently placed their dream reports of the night into the box they believed was the target image that Angel focused on during the night.
Several impressive hits were made on the target image
and also on the three non-target images .
A report of the findings of the hits on the target and non-target images was published in the July/August issue of
Explore:
The Journal of Science and Healing
(Dywer, Van de Castle, and Pimm, 2009).
Dear Dreamviewer
Next in Van de Castles report in the International Journal of Dream Research Volume 5, No.1 (2012)
He tables some dream correspondences that happened on the night of the 2009 competition.
Angel Morgan is a prolific lucid dreamer and she woke 8 times to record her lucid dreams. In many dreams contestants missed the target image but found later they had mutual-dreamed or share-dreamed with the "sender", Angel Morgan.
Van de Casle includes five examples in his report about the 2009 dream experiment/competition. Here is example one:
Table 1: 2009 Results
Correspondence
Red lights
Sender's dream
"...we see that people from various locations ... Show up like red lights..."
Deamer's dreams
D.G. - provided a drawing displaying some buttons with red lights.
Correspondence
Martial arts
Sender's dream
"...(An) IASD member and and I dance and improvise martisl arts moves..."
Dreamer's dream
K. S. -- "... pictured Angel's face, but then had "a visual of her fighting and lunging. She seemed to display some kind of swordplay like a samuri..."
Correspondence
Curling up together
Sender's dreams
"...people are completely wild, naked, and uninhibited - then peaceful and cozy, -- we all curl up in bunches to watch dream themed movies..."
Dreamer's dreams
R.V. -- "...I had the sensation I was with Angel and she had a nightgown on. I could vaguely see through it and rolled over once on the bed without making any movements to be directly sexual..."
Correspondence
Gardening
Sender's dreams
"...[An IASD member] is leading a gardening project on an IASD plot of land..."
Dreamer's dreams
G. S. - "...Angel is throwing or strewing something - seeds or stars from her right hand..."
Correspondence
Bar/restaurant
Sender's dream
"...We're all hanging out now at a 1950's style diner..."
Dreamer's dreams
I. W. - "...We are talking about something silly and drinking wine in a bar/restaurant type atmosphere..."
C. D. - "...I come back to the restaurant ...It is crowded..."
In 2010,
prior to the conference,
Bobbie Ann again selected and prepared four unrelated images and placed each in sealed, opaque envelopes.
The night of the contest, the sender, Angel Morgan, selected one of the four envelopes and returned to her room to open it. She focused on the image, meditated, went to sleep, had a lucid dream, woke up and recorded it.
She repeated this 12 times during the night.
The other 3 images remained sealed, in Bobbies possesion for the night.
The most serious criticism of the methodology employed in previous contests, including 2009 was that there were no controls in place to prevent a contestant from viewing the images the following morning and then fabricating a dream report to closely correspond with one of them.
In 2010, all dream reports were collected and scanned in Bobbie's room before any images were displayed.
The original dream reports were returned to the dreamers, who then deposited them into the box that displayed the image they believed was the target focused on by the sender.
This procedure
also negated the criticism that there may have been a large number of dreamers that withheld submitting dreams because they saw no relation to any of the images.
A report
of the findings of the hits on the target and non-target images was published in the
Fall 2010 issue of Dream Time (Van De Castle, R., Pimm, B., Morgan, A.K., & Dwyer. R. (2010).
Table 2 (below)
shows a number of correspondences between the dreams of the sender and the dreams of the dreamers and were totally unrelated to any of the images in the target pool.
Correspondence
Forrest, trees
Sender's dreams
"We are all gathered in a clearing by a forest... "
Dreamers' dreams
All nine dreamers mentioned either a forest or trees.
Correspondence
Moving lights, fire, torches
Sender's dreams
"...Some fireflies buzz overhead to give extra light..." "...There are torches lit now..."
Dreamers' dreams
S.M. - "...flies...moving about, lighting all around the flowers..."
S.N. -"...I see the trees begin to light up, tiny points ... movement of lights ..."
B.G. - ...tree on fire..."
Correspondence
Transitioning, changing, morphing
Sender's dreams
"...[IASD]'s head is on the body of a giant bee ..." "...Some of us turn into insects, then back into human form. I focus in on the band, and see the musicians are (human sized) insects!..."
Dreamers' dream
G.S. - "...A young man who made deliveries ...became a giant then got small again..."
N.D. - "...transition from spider to spider web to shadow yo dhsfow of foliage to tree canopy to tree..."
R.W. - "...The metal stairs shrink to a yellow metal bar..."
Example 4
Correspondence
Spider web/tarantular on body
Sender's dreams
"...the women paint their totem insect on their body ... looking at a woman w/tarantula painted on here body..."
Dreamers' dreams
N.D. - "...I think of but do not see a spider...I see a spider web form over top of me...the web makes a large shadow...over most of my body..."
Example 5
Correspondence
Energy
Sender's dreams
"...Major bursts of uncomfprtable energy..."...Many individual, separate bursts of comunication..."
Dreamers' dreams
S.N. - "...discussion and energy exchange..."
Example 6
Correspondence
Gulf oil spill
Sender's dreams
"...someone brings up the spill in the gulf..."
Dreamers' dreams
B.D. "...wayer..." and a "...circle ...white containment boom."
In 2011 the methodology changed slightly.
As before, Bobbie Ann selected and prepared the target pool of images the same way.
On the night of the contest, Saturday, the target was selected the same way, by our sender Suzanne Wiltink.
On Sunday the dreamers deposited their dream reports into one collection box, which Bobbie picked up that night. Since this was done before the participants observed the target pool of images this eliminated the criticism that paticipants might fabricate a dream to correspond with an image in the pool.
On Monday morning
all four images were displayed as usual and participants then deposited a "psi Dream Entry Form" with their name, into the box they believed displayed the target image that Suzanne focused on during Saturday night.
On Monday night,
Bobbie Ann collected the entries, which she brought back to her room and matched up with the dream reports by the dreamer's name.
The two were stapled together and Bobbie Ann made a notation on it signifying which image the dreamer chose.
A report of the findings of the hits on the target and non-target imageswas publushed in Fall issue of Dream Time (Van de Castle, Pimm, Dwyer and Wiltink, 2011).
Dear Dreamviews Reader
PDC 2012 is on now and closes Sunday October 7. Followed by a further 2 weeks of read and/or copy and save of your favourite presentation.
Here is my thread so you can register:
http://www.dreamviews.com/f19/pdc-op...4/#post1944036
Mutual dreaming event is happening NOW
This year*Angel Morgan
*will serve as the (sender) MDC target dreamer, and as the final contest judge, while*Ed Kellogg, Ph.D.
,*who oversees this contest, will also serve as a supporting judge.
Sunday, September 23
Conference Opens
Mutual Dreaming Contest (Information Posted)
Monday, September 24
Mutual Dreaming Chat
Tuesday, September 25
Mutual Dreaming Contest (Event)
Wednesday, September 26
6 p.m. EDT / 3 p.m. PDT Submission Deadline
Contests | Psiberdreaming2012
Two more psi-dream events to come, register here:
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Dear Reader
I just visited the iasd bulletin board and found this
Bob Van de Castle and I (Bobbie,his partner) will be teaching our 14 week, online course at Atlantic University -- Becoming a Teacher of Dreamwork/Dream Interpretation
in Fall 2013, which starts Sept 9th.
Details here:*Atlantic University
then scroll down to TS 6000.
Here is the link to where I found it.
International Association for the Study of Dreams :: View topic - Dream journalling workshops
It is 8 months away and I'm not sure but I think it is $1000+. I would like to do it but it would be more fun if I could do it with some one.
I'm not rulling out those experiments (even though I don't find them reliable already), but take a look at this video, it should be an interesting view due the nature of the experiments you're relating.
http://youtu.be/98OTsYfTt-c
Other than that the topic is really interesting, so I'll try to give it a more intense read. I really think you would get more discussion going if you posted a small preview of the matter somewhere in your posts :)
zoth00
Thank you for your indepth reply (via that Youtube)
I guess rather than a discussion thread I will refer people to a thread where people can experiment with "dream synchronicity". The insyructions are:Quote:
Originally Posted by zoth00
1) - look at my avatar (even a black and white printout works) before having a sleep or nap.
2) - observe your self dropping-off to sleep, noticing any hipnagogic imagery.
3) - when you wake note down
hipnagogic imagery
non-lucid dream snippets
hipnapopic imagery
tunes chimming through your mind
and also note anything interesting happening after you wake.
4) - Post
5) - I will copy what you post then watch Adelaide news and post any coincidence that occures concerning what you posted.
(hahaha) this is a light, fun, friendly experiment.
here is the link to the reload
http://www.dreamviews.com/beyond-dre...ml#post1987875
14/1,151 views now
I began the original on the 25-Feb-2011. I kept it going even when no one posted incase people were playing privately and were too shy to post. here is the original thread:
http://www.dreamviews.com/beyond-dre...ml#post1991475
121/6094 views now
"Have you ever had a dream that seems to be from, (or for, or as, or with) someone else? Another person? Another species, animal or alien? A different culture or distant world? Some other dimension? The “other side”?
Join IASD in an exploration of Dreaming With the Other in the 2014 PsiberDreaming Conference: two-weeks of online papers, workshops, presentations and discussion from Sunday, September 28 to Sunday, October 12, 2014.
Expand Your Boundaries!
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This was one of the 1st posts on the 1st iasd forum (that is now abandoned). This year 2014 will be the 13th pdc. This test post advertised the 3rd (2004)
1*Post:
Wed Mar 16, 2005 10:19 pm**
*Post subject: Test
Announcing:
IASD's Third Online*Psiber Dreaming Conference September 19 to October 3, 2004
Join some of the world's foremost experts on the subject of Psi-dreaming for two weeks of cutting-edge papers, discussions, workshops, and chats. If you've ever had a precognitive dream, a lucid dream, or simply an 'unusual dream' that never quite made sense, this seems the place for you.*
For two weeks participants worldwide will enjoy online experiments, psiber games with prizes, chats, and discussions on paranormal dreaming in the shared meeting space of virtual reality. Previous conferences recieved rave reviews:* (...)
"If you missed the first two, make sure you attend the third!*
Features:
1.) - Online Presentations,including provocative papers and workshops on popular and cutting edge topics, such as:
remote viewing,
precognition,
dream telepathy,
mutual dreaming,
psychopompic dreams,
lucid dreaming,
visionary dreaming,
prodromal dreams,
dream healing,
the nature of dream reality, and
dreaming as a spiritual practice.
Workshops will provide resource lists for those who wish to explore topics in greater depth, and practical instructions for techniques or experiments detailed enough so that conference participants can try them out at home.*
2.) - Dedicated PsiberDreaming Discussion Boards where participants can discuss each paper and workshop in depth with authors and other participants, and can post specific questions, etc. Links to relevant threads would appear conveniently at the end of each posted presentation, updated daily to show new threads of interest.*
3.) - Scheduled Chats each week of the conference with presenters and/or other experts on cutting edge topics.*
4.) - Numerous PsiberDreaming Events and Contests
where participants can test their skills and explore different facets of paranormal dreaming, including:
dream telepathy and
remote viewing,
precognition, and
mutual dreaming.
Judges will evaluate how well dreamers tune into the designated targets, or how well dreamers perform a specific dream task.
And IASD will provide prizes to the winners!*
5.) - (...)
Note:*we've deliberately set the price of attending this conference low to open this conference to interested participants worldwide. Please take advantage!*
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Welcome to Dreaming With the Other
Welcome to PsiberDreaming 2014 the theme this year is Dreaming With the Other
The pdc (a 2 week, 24/7 online PsiberDreaming Conference) was my friend, the late, Dr Robert Van De Castle's pride and joy (baby). It opened-up the work of the iasd (International Association for the Study of Dreams) to those unable to get to the International Conference's.
Folks can attend the pdc from there home, in their pj's (hahaha)
Any way
Here is where to register:
♧♧♧♧
http://www.asdreams.org/psi2014/
♧♧♧♧
Quote:
Dreams can tell us much about ourselves. But some dreams may take us beyond the familiar boundaries of ourselves. Have you ever had a dream that seems to be from, or for, or as, or with someone else? Another person? Another species, animal or alien? A different culture or distant world? Some other dimension? The “other side”?
Ha!Quote:
Join IASD in an exploration of Dreaming With the Other in the 2014 PsiberDreaming Conference: two-weeks of online papers, workshops, presentations and discussion from
Sunday, September 28
to
Sunday, October 12, 2014.
Expand Your Boundaries!
It ends on October 12
My 55th Birthday
Wow (!!!)
Maybe I should think-up some dream game to offer to my friends here on Dreamviews in light of this coincidence.
Sooo,
I will work on that and then pm you to see what you think.
There is alway 3 dream-games, with prizes, offered at the pdc. So I urge you to go and look at how the iasd do them. Iasd is very academic and scientific.
I'll pm you all later about planning a dream game after the pdc.
Look what I found!
I went to post 1 of the 1st web site I ever looked at (2005) and I am reading all posts, slowly. This is post 98.
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"Psi dreams" is a Yahoogroup, discussion list for dreams and psiPublic Group,
*224 members.
Post #98
PLEASE JOIN IN A PSI DREAM EXPERIMENT--DEC.17, 2000
Dreamrita posted this on
Dec 11, 2000
On Sunday night, December 17, 2000, you will have the opportunity to*take part in a psi dream experiment.
Dale Graff (former director of*the US Government's remote viewing STARGATE project)will select a*target picture by 9:00 PM (EST) and closely observe it for fifteen*(15) minutes in his home in Prince Frederick, MD.
The target picture*will be "available" on a table in the center of a room in his house*for three days until 9:00 PM (EST) on Wednesday, December 20.
Dale*welcomes anyone to interact with the target picture during a dream.*
He will give this target picture an address, "ASD-1" to facilitate*focusing your objective.
In addition, you may focus on Dale as a*beacon person or "sender" to help you access the photo.
The timing of*your intent in not important. Your access can occur at any time after*the target is identified.
The target address will establish your link*with the target picture.*
DALE'S SUGGESTIONS FOR PSI DREAMING:
Write out your dream incubation objective, such as:
"Tonight I desire*to recall a dream about the target, ASD-1."*
Frequently hold this objective in mind, especially prior to sleep*onset.
When you awake from a dream, remain motionless while reviewing it*until all details are fixed in memory.
Then jot brief notes on an*easily accessible pad.
As soon as you arise, describe the dream(s) in detail and sketch any*prominent features.*
Give more significance to the forms,
shapes,
colors and the
spatial*relationships or dynmaics
than to the specific interpretation (or*names) you give the impression.
The attention-calling aspects of your dream, or its ending are most*likely to correlate the target elements.
Take note of them when*preparing your summary and sketches.*
Your responses may be sent in three ways:
(1)To the psi-dreams study*group address, ([email protected];
(2)to Rita Dwyer at*DreamRita@...*if you choose not to post your dream(s) for all to*read,
or
(3) - by snail mail (for those who wish to send sketches or*haven't e-mail access ) to Rita Dwyer, (I am deleting the address because this post is 14 years old).
Snail mail must be posted on or before December 21, 2000.
The identity of the target picture will be revealed on December 22,*2000 on our asd-PsiDreams site, as well as on the ASD Bulletin*Board's News Section.
Final results will be posted early in January*2001.*Please join in the experiment--it offers opportunities not only for*telepathy, but also for precognition, clairvoyance/remote viewing,*and all sorts of interesting experiences.
Tell your dreaming friends*far and wide to explore what all of us can pull into our dream nets.
VERSE 4 excites me cos back in 2008, working with BobV, I knew this verse was talking about synchronicity. Big waking-life coincidences caused by trying to dream together.
Enchanted lyrics
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VERSE 1) - ♥Living is a dream
♥When you make it seem enchanted
♥Lovers take for granted
♥All the world's aglow, they ought to know
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VERSE 2) - ♥When you touch a star
♥Then you really are enchanted
♥Find a seed and plant it
♥Love will make it grow
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VERSE 3) - ♥It's really grand when you stand
♥Hand in hand with your lover
♥And thrill to the wonders of night
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VERSE 4) - ♥And days, too will amaze you
♥And soon you'll discover
♥★Your dreams run to dreams
In continuous flight★
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♥Love is ecstasy
♥It's divine to be enchanted
♥When your dreams are slanted
♥Through a lover's eyes
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♥It's really grand when you stand
♥Hand in hand with your lover
♥And thrill to the wonders of night
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♥And days too will amaze you
♥And soon you'll discover
♥★Your dreams run to dreams
In continuous flight★
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♥Love is ecstasy
♥It's divine to be enchanted
♥When your dreams are slanted
♥Through a lover's eyes
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The Platters: Enchanted: The Platters: Enchanted - YouTube
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Hope all these 12 colours work.
1. Light Blue Light Blue
2. Olive olive
3. Grey Light Grey
4. Dark Green DGreen
6. Orange orange
7/8 Blue Blue
8. Red red
9. Light Blue Light Blue
10. Purple Purple
11. Brown Browm
12. Pink Pink
Any one going to the 2014 pdc? See the previous posts to learn what pdc is.
I just listened to this interview with Bob Van Der Castle from 2010 talking about his research and the conference. You can find it here: Dream Talk Radio with Anne Hill » Blog Archive » Dr. Robert Van De Castle on Dream Telepathy
Daniele, thank youQuote:
Originally Posted by Daniele
It downloaded to my phone nicely and I enjoyed it twice.
I just registered for the pdc that opens in two days (Sunday 28-Sept). I can't share stuff in open forum (got outright banned and my registration money returned to me in 2012 for that). So if anyone registers please pm me and we can rave about what's happening there ... in private.
Ama gunna believe for the psidream competition targets to pop-up in folks dream journals here on Dreamviews, on the appropriate days. When they do I'll pm the journalist but again I wont tell yous what the target was, just that you HIT (hahaha)
If you want to register... click here
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http://www.asdreams.org/psi2014/
★★★ click the "registration" button at the top of the page.
"It's a hoot!"
If I can avoid getting banned off the 2014 pdc I will be having a go at Viginia's workshop.
Virginia G. Bennett*is a licensed clinical psychologist in private practice in Berkeley, California. She has a doctorate and professorship in psychology, and a Ph.D. in parapsychology. She has conducted psi research on precognition in dreams and hypnotic dreams. From her daily record of her own dreams she has learned just how common precognition can be.
Preview Dreaming
This workshop will explore how dreams provide “previews of coming attractions” of “others.” Not the “big” and disturbing precognitive dreams of plane crashes and earthquakes—but ordinary, non-life changing, events:
the face of a stranger,
a topic of conversation,
a news headline,
a movie image,
flashes in a dream which, had we dreamt it after the waking event, would seem insignificant.
Using protocol based on the book An Experiment in Time by John Dunne, and psi research,
we will engage in re-reading our dreams every couple of days, pretending that the dreams occurred after the waking events in that two day period.
In this way, we may find correspondences for which there are no “rational” explanations, and are remarkable primarily because they occurred prior to the waking encounter.
In this way, we can enhance our understanding of the nature of time, synchronicity, beliefs about psi, and the meaning of our dreams.
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Here I s my take:
I think the source of "my" precognition maybe "a future me" because there is gentle humour and a detached yet intimate love when I get precognition. When, under Bob Van De Castle's, tutalage, I moved into near constant precog and waking life synchronicity, it felt like "everyone" was cheerful, intelligent, open, compationate and we were "all" in one advanced natural state. And all of us knew that the magic key was to be as innocent as infants and consciously stay away from behaviour and conversation that would frighten or confuse an infant.
I felt excusivelly that we of the dream-community were based, perhaps, a thousand years into our future. We were/are a happy bunch a thousand years from now. Our love of what we once were "warts-n-all" a thousand years ago, is complete. And all the discomfort (and horrors) that you and I have yet to face is ancient history to our deep-future Selves.
They, (we of the deep-future) have no desire to change their past, only support "we of the deep-past".
And this support is comming through precognition and synchronicity.
Friday, October 10 is
Virginia Bennett: (Workshop) “Preview Dreaming”
The pdc closes on Sunday October 12
Hope some DreamViewer's will do this workshop. The stuff in Big, Dark Green font is my idea, not Virginia Bennett's. I don't know Virginia Bennett.
The first psi dreaming contest is over at the pdc.
A Spanish person named Daniel Fernandez was a winner. Won 1st prize.
That is a synchronicity Daniele. As for me, I'm not yet banned. I did four posts, then the reply button disappeared and I got a email informing that I am on "read-only" privileges.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniele
Sorry that all my pictures have vanished. The website where they were based has closed.
The 24/7, 2week, online 2014 PsiberDreaming Conference "Dreaming With the Other" has closed.
Minutes ago this was posted on PsiDreams
I'm thrilled to learn what the theme of this years 24/7 online dream conference is going to be about.Quote:
Dear Art,
Dreams, and psi, and psi dreams, are inherently mysterious:
largely unobservable except within the experiencing mind.
Only the boldest of scientists dare explore these hidden realms;
but each of us boldly leaps into the mystery every time we close our eyes to sleep.
How does science describe and quantify these phenomena? What do we learn from those investigations? What can we as individuals learn as we probe the boundaries of our own consciousness? What experiments will you bring aboard your oneironautical spacecraft tonight?
It's that time again.* PsiberDreaming is coming...well, in a few months.
But this is a sneak preview of what the PsiberCore has in store for you.* And it is also an invitation.*
Proposals for 2015 presentations are open now to anyone who had previously attended the IASD PsiberDreaming Conference.*
Proposals need to only to give the working title of the presentation and a paragraph or two outlining the thesis.*
Formally, the PDC presentation deadline will be June 10.* However, we try to begin building the framework for the conference as early as possible.*
So take a look and send a theme-related proposal soon to Jean Campbell at*jccampb@...
Thanks for your participation now and join IASD in Leaping Into the Mystery:*
The Psi-ence of Dreams in the 2015 PsiberDreaming Conference:
two-weeks of online papers, workshops, presentations and discussion from Sunday, September 27 to Sunday, October 11, 2015.
Jean Campbell, Host
This years International Association for the Study of Dreams (iasd) PsiberDreaming Conference is titled:
Leaping into the Mystery
The Psi-ence Of Dreams
Dear Dreamviews members
The 2018 iasd online conference starts
Sunday, September 23 to Sunday, October 7, 2018
It is titled
The Dreamwide Web
Look what happened to "Meeee" last year
Here is my entire post or posts to the
Precognitive Dreaming Competition
rvdc refers to the man who wrot the article that this thread is about. He died in January 2014.
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Post*by*DebraJane Dixon*
»*Sun Oct 01, 2017
2:10 pm (iasd online dream conference time)
rvdc's Sacred Beach "Hit"
Look at the point (1:44) to end of clip at (3:42) to see
The Sacred Beach's representation of
"The Skating Minister."
Transcript:
We've got froth and bubble on the beach.
That's a metaphor for "me"
Am all froth and bubble.
"See the froff, see the froff, froth and bubbbbble".
ALLLL along the beach. The Sacred Beach.
So don'tworry about me am all froth and bubble.
And it gets me into a lot of trouble.
PAUSE, pause, pause, pause.
Resume
That is the top of the Sacred Beach. Thats Grange Beach Jetty, nearly there.
It's 11:32am (Saturday 30-September-2017 here in Adelaide Australia) and still there is plenty of froth,*
froth anf bubble.*
And the froth and bubble is being*
blown around.
Can you see it being blown around (???)*
Skip to (3:20) of my*3:43 Youtube
to check-out rvdc's sacred beach
interpreted the precog "Target*"
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https://youtu.be/yMc2kAvVSks
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(3:43)
THE SACRED BEACH's*
imitation of
Da-Da-Da-DAAAA*
"The Skating Minister."
Note
"The Skating Minister" is a sacred man,
Wiki reads ...
(....) Perhaps this was the artist's way of suggesting that, for all his apparent*
probity and self-restraint,*
the minister was at heart something of a romantic*
– a man, at any rate,*
with a penchant for*
communing with nature."[2]
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https://youtu.be/l83UeGABk-I
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rvdc*
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Post 19
Re: Precognitive Dreaming Contest
Post*by*DebraJane Dixon*»*Sun Oct 01, 2017 2:52 pm
Screeeeeeeeam*
And*
"THE SKATING MINISTER"
His name was
DA-DA-DA-DAAAAAA
ROBERT*Walker
rvdc, rvdc, rvdc ROBERT Van De Castle
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Oh, the above post was fron last years online dream conference.
LighrkVader thank you for your reply
Oops, you deleted it.
I will copy and paste it from the notification email:
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Dear EbbTide000,
LighrkVader has just replied to a thread you have subscribed to entitled - What are Your Thoughts on This? - in the Beyond Dreaming forum of Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views.
This thread is located at:
https://www.dreamviews.com/beyond-dr...-new-post.html
Here is the message that has just been posted:
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Hi:)
I can see that you put your heart into doing this thread right.
Probably
just the format that doesn't work with me,
but
I really don't understand what it's about.
I tried to read it but I got lost really quickly.
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Judging by the lack participation
from the rest of the forum here,
I suspect I'm not the only one.
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This might sound horribly judgemental of me to say,
and
I don't know enough to have an opinion.
But that last post gave me the chills
in a bad way...
makes this community you're in sound kind of cult-like...
I don't know what it is you guys do,
if you pay this master,
what the sacred beach is... etc.
So
please don't take offense at me saying it.
I don't know anything.
But I am always interested in learning more.
So I hope you could do an
"explain like I'm 5"
post
to make me and possibly others understand
what it is you're talking about in this thread.⚘
:D
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yes LighrkVader
I can see how you would feel confused.
Give me a day or two to figure out how to condense the essence of this thread, please.
Thank you for replying
Yeah. I got confused when writing the post, and I was reading an old post you made as if it was the last one... and I realized after I posted and I couldn't find it.... It was a whole mess, and I just sort of gave up :P I would love the ELI5 though:)
LighrkVader
In post 102, above
Daniele writes:
I just listened to this interview
with Bob Van Der Castle
from 2010
talking about his research
and the conference.
You can find it here:*
Dream Talk Radio
with Anne Hill
» Blog Archive » Dr. Robert Van De Castle on Dream Telepathy
Go to the 20 minute part
and listen to my rvdc (who died in Jan 2014)
This will help you understand why I speak of him
as if he is my⚘Dream Master⚘
:bowdown:
He consciously
lucid dreamed and visited me 12 thousand miles away
giving me amazing "false awakenings"
To me, he is a Master.
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Dream Talk Radio with Anne Hill » Blog Archive » Dr. Robert Van De Castle on Dream Telepathy
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