Thread: Magnetic Stimulation of the Pineal Gland.

My opinion is that, generally speaking, things get stimulated naturally through use. If you think about a spiritual subject, that exercises the part of you that's used for that. I think that tricks involving electromagnetic fields, drugs, or bizarre meditative techniques are usually asking for trouble.

First, thank you for the reply..

I agree with you somewhat in that these types of things should be done as naturally as possible to prevent any incidences. However, with research showing that due to high fluoride consumption our pineal gland has been calcified over and not entirely easily accessible from the conscious state.

I first came across this experiment watching a documentary on Netflix pertaining to "2012". This was a topic within that documentary. Walter Rawls applied low levels of magnetism fixed upon his "third eye" region for 10-30minutes a day for a period up to 4weeks. It took this long to gain the full effect and have the experience that caused him to stop. I think this is a generally safe way to ease yourself into magnetics. I have read countless blogs talking about extremely powerful magnets causing people to literally vanish and reappear when the magnetic field was taken away.. on the first attempt.. In my opinion that is the extreme end of this.

Also on NOVA there was a documentary on the mind where they used concentrated magnetic beams to immediately alter peoples abilities, such as talking, and moving of joints. This same team was able to put 33% of their depression patients into full remission. This was double blind experiment.

I believe there is more to this than meets the eye, so to speak.. I will be attempting the Walter Rawls experiment when I get home..

Originally Posted by eucsstamticc

I first came across this experiment watching a documentary on Netflix pertaining to "2012".

The 2012 industry is provably the work of neurotic knaves. If the techniques they advocate "work" you'll wind up like them.

Wait 6 months and see if the world changes dramatically. They'll say a few things about how we've been given a little more time, switch to another fad for a short time, then in a couple of years they'll be back again selling books about 2020 or whatever the next big scary/exciting transition is supposed to be. If they're right and something big happens in December, then consider their other ideas. I don't have to wait 6 months because I saw the same people do this in relation to 2000, and in other 'earth changes' before that. Also I've worked in neurofeedback, and still work in electromagnetics research, so I understand this stuff.

Yes you can screw with your brain with electromagnetics and get results, just like you can with drugs. But you have to look at both the good and the bad effects, and use statistics honestly. By natural selection, the people who pitch this stuff are predators: the people who are both sincere and technically qualified to understand what's going on stay away. There are circumstances where electromagnetic stimulation helps sick or injured people in a modest and controlled way, such as with stroke rehabilitation. But if you're not a stroke patient balancing two opposing risks, why screw yourself up.

In any case, we agree there is more to this than meets the eye.

The magnetism itself was about 4 subtopics off of the initial 2012 topic. Talking about timewave 0, human pop. at 10 to the power of 10 nearly.. new knowledge on a graph where the line goes straight up so basically knowledge becomes infinite, and time travel with the grandfather paradox and this magnetism..

Don't worry about me i'm not caught up in the 2012 hysteria!

Thank you for your input in regards to it pertaining to your field. I have a question possibly a couple for you. You stated some of the effects above, and some of the indicators for the use of magnetism, I am curious have you seen any negative effects? Severe or minor. Some thoughts of mine would be that the human brain has electrical activity in it and too much magnetism could alter the currents indefinitely, or possibly cause irreversible damage..

I am here to learn about this and as much as the positive sides sound like they could be.... astonishing.. I would not want to venture into any territory that could leave me in a vegetative state.. I want to learn as much about this before any attempt on my part..

Personally I think the people that made huge electromagnetic currents then put themselves inside of it are for a lack of better words... batshit crazy lol

Thank you again for taking the time.. I am in no hurry so there is no rush on a response.. thanks again.

Some terminology, in case its helpful....Electromagnetism is light. In common usage, people call it light when they can see it, and radio or infra-red when they can't because the wavelengths are wrong for the design and dimensions of their eyes, but its the same stuff. Magnetism might be thought of as the passive aspect of light. Electric force, such as would move electrons, might be thought of as the active aspect.

As far as I know, it would take a very strong magnetic field to physically harm a person, though this isn't something I've looked up. If you move in a magnetic field it induces an electric current, but it would take a fairly strong field to fry something. The effects would depend strongly on the frequencies involved.

I see two primary dangers in relation to electromagnetically stimulating the brain, aside from shocking or burning yourself of course.

Usually, when you systematically do anything to your body, your body tries to compensate. Its already in the balance it wants to be in. This is why most drugs loose their effect eventually, unless you keep upping the dosage. Some things you can consciously control because you're aware of it. For instance, you can control your breathing. Other things you can't control because you're not aware of it. Generally speaking, the stuff that you're not aware of is hidden because if you were aware of it you'd alter it in potentially dangerous ways. Natural selection keeps it subconscious. For example, though you are aware of many of your thoughts, you're not aware of how active your brain is in any particular range of frequencies. If you were to become aware of it, such as by measuring it with an oscilloscope, you would find that you can control it. A danger with this is how do you know if you're hurting yourself? Your brain is responsible for telling you if there's a problem, but you've altered its ability to do that. In other words, you're breaking the instrument that tells you if you're breaking the instrument. Just by measuring your brain activity and consciously altering it, without applying any external stimuli, you can make yourself crazy. Fortunately this can usually be reversed later by doing the opposite of whatever conditioning you were doing, as far as I know. Some people scoff and think this stuff is "safe", because after all they're doing nothing but thinking about an image on a screen. But they don't understand what they're talking about.

"Spiritual" experiences aren't understood scientifically, but I know for certain from my experiences that such things are not electromagnetic. So, for example, out of body experiences can be stimulated electromagnetically, but we don't understand very well what's really going on at deeper levels. We do know that there is ebb and flow at deeper levels, and things needing to be kept in balance. So if you do something to your body physically that produces some 'spiritual' experience, you can't tell if you're harming or helping yourself unless you understand how it all works. And we don't have that understanding. Another problem with neurofeedback, as I see it, is that it can be used to "fix" surface psychological conditions, but with much more serious consequences at a more hidden level. Therapeutic drugs tend to be like that also. I guess the best a person can do is listen to themselves the best they know how, and stop if they feel something is wrong. But as with a lot of drug use, you don't know if something is wrong if you've altered your ability to tell. So observing other people who have practiced a technique for a long period of time, and seeing what problems they objectively have, is another way of learning about such things. And this is where a lot of my critical attitude comes from, I've been paying attention to this for 20 years, and a lot of what I've seen is quite sad or disturbing.

It seems to me that being honest and open with oneself, and trying to treat other people right, perceiving things how they really are, is what's important. And if you do that, this does develop you spiritually and open up new realms of experience.

Gotta go.