Astral Projection/WILD While Under The Effects Of Cannabis?

[Skalm]

Hello all. I have been trying to have as much Lucid dreams as possible. I recently learned that LD's and AP is basically the same damn thing. Now when sober I try to do WILD, I never seem to get there. I will practice and I Will learn to do it sober, But I have tried it with cannabis and it seems to increase my chances fully. I do not intend to use it as a crutch though. I figured if I can succeed maybe I can find a way to do it sober from the astral? (talk to a dream guide or something) Now, this is my problem. If I go in high will I be high in the astral? Couldn't I just think about being sober and be sober in the astral and just us the cannabis to get me there? Or does the high stay with you no matter what? I don't want to go to the astral high because its the thought realm, and if I am high that gives the chance of bad things happening (scary I suppose) I just wanted to know if anyone had any experience with this, Like I said I do not intend on using cannabis as a crutch with LD's or AP. I just want to experience it finally gain some inner insight, you know? http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabi..._spirit6.shtml (where I learned about Meditation and Cannabis together)

[Ksero]

cannabis can help with dissociation, but you will be "high" in your AP/lucid no matter what, as long as the drug is still in your system you will be high, and that means less control, even if you are aware you are dreaming. cannabis also impairs your short term memory, so it will be harder to remember fully what you experienced. try doing the WBTB technique before attempting to WILD, you are much more likely to become lucid this way.

[Skalm]

When I tried this I found I went into Paralysis within 5 minutes. Which is good but the problem was I would get paranoid. So I will not be using this method again. I would like to add that this method can work but it should not be used as a crutch. It would be better to learn how to do it sober.

[Wrighty]

what about Salvia and LD

[Skalm]

what about Salvia and LD Ive heard this actually works but most people have a rough time with salvia. Its a very intense trip, usually scary. If you decied to do this please have a sitter. This drug is very intense. Other than that there is no problem health wise.