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      I either had my first OOBE or my first WILD

      Here's my experience. I apologize if it's a bit lengthy.

      This morning I became aware of hypnagogic sounds and I suddenly grew very excited and woke up. I tried again and immediately entered the same state. I never felt any vibrations, this time was no different, so I simply imagined separating the entire time.

      I found that in this state I had good tactile visualization skills so I imagined my hands moving and covering my face. This was very convincing so it was sort of my cue, I suppose. I then imagined forcing myself out like I was going through a wall of bubblegum. For a moment I saw an image of some sort of amber light and then I found myself standing in the dark morning blueness of my room.

      Only it wasn't really my room. It seemed the room itself was the same but the stuff and position of things were different. My bed with me on it was turned another direction, ect.

      At first I had trouble seeing things though this quickly cleared up when I made a mental note that I was no longer looking through my eyes. However I had a lot of trouble with motion. It was more like I was looking at still images or thoughts.

      I found I could not pass through things as I frequently heard. I was not floating either. I spent my short remaining time debating whether it would be safe to jump out of my window.

      I'm actually leaning on the side that this was just a weak WILD about an OOBE. It was remarkably similar to a lucid dream.

      However an interesting coincidence is that at the beginning I noted the time on the dream clock was 9:57. When I woke up the time on my real clock was 10:00. I want to say that's how long the experience felt, though it's hard to judge time without real movement.

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      I've read that in an OBE your room might not look the same if someone lived there before you because their stuff would be in the astral plane because it was there longer. I don't know if it's true. Did anyone live in your house before you?

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      I experienced something very similar to you, last week.

      My first OBE, although I separated with the vibrations, the same thing happened. I walked through to my living room and although the room was the same size and the logistics seemed right, there was a lot less furniture in there.

      I walked to the front door and noticed that this one didn't have a window and mine does.

      I also read the same post as Woodstock so it must be on this forum somewhere.

      I would say your experience was an OBE/AP.
      "Kindly let me help you or you'll drown", said the monkey, putting the fish safely up a tree.

      - Alan Watts.

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      The definition of Out of Body Experience is way more simple than people think it is.

      An out-of-body experience (OBE or sometimes OOBE) is an experience that typically involves a sensation of floating outside one's body and, in some cases, perceiving one's physical body from a place outside one's body (autoscopy).
      So it is merely an experience of feeling as though one is outside of one's own body. That's it! The different mystical/spiritual associations that people have attached to the term are incorrect and confusing. If you want to associate something paranormal to an OBE, then it would be classified as an astral projection.

      Astral projection is a paranormal interpretation of out-of-body experiences that assumes the existence of one or more non-physical planes of existence and an associated body beyond the physical.
      Therefore if you have a WILD where you float out of your body, then you had a WILD with an OBE. If you were in a transitional state, such as hypnagogia and suddenly found yourself or forced yourself out of your body, then I would call it a hypnagogic OBE, or a transitional state OBE. Some people have sleep paralysis induced OBEs. So trying to figure out if it was a WILD or an OBE is sort of pointless, because the two terms often overlap and can often be difficult to distinguish.

      Since you put this in Beyond Dreaming, I'm going to assume that the correct question you want to be asking is...was this an OBE associated with WILD, or was it an astral projection?

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