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      Leaving the Body

      The chapters of "Leaving the Body" have four parts:

      Background,
      Technique,
      Comments and
      References.

      Chapter 4 caught my attention first "Projection Through Dietary Control". The technique is to eat raw egg, fruits and veg but no meat and no nuts especially no peanuts. Then fast (stop eating) just befor "Leaving the body". Here are 3 of the 8 visualizations to be practiced in this technique:

      4) Imagine yourself clinging to a coil of rope and being drawn out of the body by it.

      7) Build up an image of yourself as though you were looking at yourself in a mirror. Then transfer your consciouness to that image.

      8) Imagine steam rising from a limp cloth; then imagine that you are that steam emerging from (the cloth of) your phisical body.

      Chapter 4 "Projection Through Dietary Controll" is the Keeler system (1916) and it has been completely forgotten by most authotities and writers on the out-of-body experience. Minnie Keeler was an amateur medium that Prescot Hall interviewed and worked with in 1902.

      Whatever one chooses to think about Minnie Keeler and her communications to Hall, they certainly represent one of the most curious chapters in the often bizarre history of the paranormal. They include very detailed lectures on rhe nature of astral projection, which were certainly more advanced than anything published in the popular occult literature of the day.

      Several techniques for inducing OBEs were outlined in these comunications to which, years later, Herewaed Carrington and Sylvan Muldoon would refer with utmost respect. (page 51)

      Page 49... Chapter 4 Projection Through Dietary Control (intro)

      Most systems for inducing out-of-body experiences stress such mental processes as

      willing
      visualization
      concentration
      focusing and
      other innate skills

      that vary from individual to individual. The major problem with these techniques is that they are impossible to objectify.

      Therefore cannot be standardized

      How much willing does one have to engage in to leave the body?...

      Few occultists, astral projectors, or writers have ever addressed such issues, which is why the art of astral projection has remained just that--an art.

      There is one system that is objective, however, since its key is simple diet control. The method teaches that in order to undergo OBEs, one must modify the structure of the ecsomatic body through dietary regulation.

      Once the double's constitution and relationship to the physical body has been restructured, OBEs may occur naturally.

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      Thanx MasterMind


      Nothing comes close to the murdered D. Scott Rogo's "Leaving the Body" book. I have orded 10. So if you want to study it with me email me and I'll send you one of the 10 (for free)when they arrive.

      This is the table of contents:

      1 - The out-of-body potential

      2 - Projection through Dynamic Concentration

      3) - Projection through Progressive Muscular Relaxation

      4) - Projection through Dietary Control

      5) - Projection through Breathing, Yoga, and Mantra

      6) - The Monroe Techniques (p88)

      7) - Projection through Visualisation

      8) - Projection through Dream Control

      9) - Projection through Guided Imagery

      10) - Of what use is Astral Projection

      Bibliograghy

      Index (page 186 to 190)

      the books may take 4 to 6 weeks to arrive here in Adelaide. But email me if you are interested in a free copy.
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      Debra, I am not interested in taking a book from you for free - but I really appreciate the offer.

      I am over in Melbourne and work next to a good theosophical book shop so if you think it's worth getting I can pop along and get one

      But I would be interested in studying this with you, for sure.

      I've read the 3 Monroe books and am reading one of William Buhlman's at the moment.
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      It was Labour Day Holiday yesterday but I got to the Cosmic Pages bookshop just after it opened to day to see if they had any Leaving the body. They didn't but placed an order for 10 from the US. There is an ebook, she said. They will take about 6 weeks to be shipped (if the Christmas shipment hasn't already been sent).

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      Debra, I am not interested in taking a book from you for free - but I really appreciate the offer.

      I am over in Melbourne and work next to a good theosophical book shop so if you think it's worth getting I can pop along and get one
      After placing the order I browsed and found "Lucid Dreaming" Gateway to the Inner Self by Robert Waggoner. First printing September 2008.

      I bought it.

      Have you, thebigm, (or anyone reading this) read that book?

      Quote Originally Posted by thebigm View Post
      But I would be interested in studying this with you, for sure.

      I've read the 3 Monroe books and am reading one of William Buhlman's at the moment.
      I am happy that I have 2 people wanting to read Leaving the body and do some techniques with me.

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      I have not read Waggoner, but I have heard about him. I tend to get obsessed with the methods I'm into at the time so have read the Monroe books a few times each.

      I attended a Monroe Institute weekend excuersion workshop and had Buhlman's books recommended to me so I am reading them now.

      Once your books arrive, let me know and I will purchase one, I am really interested in some form of experimentation - as you're in Adelaide, we should be sleeping at around the same time

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      Robert Monroe (!!!)

      Look at post#9
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      http://www.dreamviews.com/f19/powerf...3/#post1901977
      I first heard about Robert Monroe from Nick Newports work (Lucidology 1, 2, and 3).
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      Interesting post! Monroe talks in one of his books about coming across psychic 'guardian' types when he projected within the vicinity of the whitehouse. Almost like the president had some kind of astral security set up and they wanted to know what he was doing there.

      Robert Monroe wrote about a 'mindguard' for Pres. Kennedy in his first book.

      I found the excerpt on the net (as pdf, you can google for kennedy and "robert monroe"):

      "That evening, after going to bed, the surge came again, and I drifted out.
      I was floating over several houses, trying to decide what to do, when
      suddenly this tall man appeared in front of me (the same one), and stopped
      me merely by being in my way. I got an impression of calm strength. He
      asked me why I wanted to see the President. I was surprised at first,
      because I didn't have any particular desire to see Eisen-hower (that was my
      mind's connotation of President), but I made up an idea of a plan for
      peace, and told the tall man about it. He then asked how "we can be sure
      you are loyal to the United States." I replied, still confused, that I was
      sure proper information on me was in Washington. He then said, after a
      moment, that I could not see the President at this time. I consented
      agreeably, and returned. Lying in bed, thinking it over, I first realized
      that Eisenhower was no longer President of course. I also suddenly had the
      very deep conviction that Kennedy had a psychic bodyguard (or rather
      mindguard). I then realized that Kennedy might be there in Hyannis that
      weekend. I got up and went downstairs, found the local paper, and on the
      front page was the story that Kennedy was arriving in Hyannis that afternoon.
      (I had not seen a paper for the past two days.)"
      - Robert Monroe (Journeys Out Of Body)
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      Thanx thebigm. I'll give you 3 of the 20 pages on Robert Monroe.


      The Monroe Techniques (Chapter 6) page 88:

      Most of the procedures discussed so far represent formal systems fore the induction of the OBE, designed for widespread and general use. In this chapter we'll be looking at some highly specific techniques developed by a gifted OB traveler, which he has found useful for his own projections.

      Every gifted subject-from Sylvan Muldoon to Keith Harary-has developed a unique method for leaving the body. Luckily for us, these methods have usually been placed on record.

      BACKGROUND

      Probably the most popular and successful book ever written about the OBE appeared in 1971 when Robert Monroe, a Virginia businessman, published his autobiographical account, Journeys Out of the Body.

      Monroe, now a white-haired executive, was born in 1915 and grew up in Lexington, Kentucky. He graduated from Ohio State University and worked first in New York's radio and telebision industry. From there he moved to advertising.

      He began experiencing OBE's in 1958 long after he built a successful career. At first he was confused by his new-found talent, but over the years he has become a frequent traveler along the astral by-ways.

      His book describes not only his terrestial OBE's, but realistic journeys to parallel universes and other dimensions of time and space. As he stated in a Fate interview, he has even had "certain remarkable experiences--such as visits to other energy systems that the 'I' consciousness could not even conceive of. There has even been contact with entities that are far beyond anything I've ever dreamed of in my wildest fantasies."

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      If you haven't read the books debrajane, I highly recommend them.

      The first is by far the most digestible and the 2nd and 3rd border on far out and some of the language used is hard to comprehend.

      However, I feel that as I get a handle on this more and hopefully have some experiences myself it will mean more to me.

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      The Monroe Techniques page 89 (From Chapter 6 of Leaving the Body)

      Quote Originally Posted by thebigm View Post
      If you haven't read the books debrajane, I highly recommend them.

      The first is by far the most digestible and the 2nd and 3rd border on far out and some of the language used is hard to comprehend.

      However, I feel that as I get a handle on this more and hopefully have some experiences myself it will mean more to me.
      The Monroe Techniques p 89

      According to his autobiography, this businessman developed his out-of-body talents as a result of an illness that struck him in the spring of 1958. His family had gone out one day, and he had spent his time listening to a tape of specially prepared sounds. After brunch whith his family when they returned, he decided to lie down and was suddenly seized by cramps. His first thought is that he was suffering from food poisoning, so he stayed in bed all day and rested.

      The same thing happened three weeks later, but during this attack, his whole body began vibrating. Even thouhh these weired vibrations contained to plague him for months, his family doctor could not diagnose the problem.

      One night he was lying in bed with his arm draped over the side, dangling near the rug when the vibrations began manifesting again. Monroe pushed on the floor, and his hand seemed to pass right through it! He was puzzled but shrugged off the experience as a day dream. The vibrations contined to manifest.

      His first genuine OBE occurred a few weeks later.

      Monroe was just about to fall asleep when he felt a wave of vibration surge through his body. His thoughts instinctively turned towards gliding, which was his current hobby, and suddenly he found himself near the ceiling of his bedroom.

      "I was floating against the ceiling, bouncing gently with any movement I made,"

      he writes,

      "I rolled in the air, startled, and looked down. There in the dim light below me,was the bed. There was two figures lying in the bed. To the right was my wife. Beside her was someone else. Both seemed asleep."

      It was, of course, his own figure lying there. Monroe began to panic when he realized he might be dying, so he dove down and back into his body.

      This experience so puzzled Monroe that he began consulting his doctor and a psychologist friend about his syndrome. The psychologist recommended that he read up on Eastern philosophy, but even this did not allay Monroe's fear that he was going insane. Nor did it help much when more OBEs began manifesting over the next weeks.

      These continued incidents eventually led him to the U.C.L.A. Neuropsychiatric institute in 1964, where he met with several of the staff in hopes of learning more about his problem. They, of course, knew nothing about the OBE and so were hardly helful.

      Luckily for him, however, he learned about parapsychology at about this time, which gave him a clue toward understanding his experiences.

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      Yeah, that's how I got on to the books, I woke up feeling the vibrations and went online looking for answers, thinking I was looking for a medical diagnosis.......

      Most of the answers seemed to be on spiritual websites.

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      Page 90 Paragraph 2


      When he found out just what he was actually experiencing, Monroe lost his fear of the OBE. Instead of dreading his projections, he began experimenting with them - soon learning that he could not only leave the body,

      but

      visit his friends (even if they were miles away) (...)

      He also began keeping detailed records of these incidents, complete with the names of the names of the people he had visited while out-of-body, what they were doing at the time of his visitations, and on the subsequent verifications of his observations.
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      Bob Monroe's 8 Youtubes


      Here is Bob Monroe describing his first OBE:

      Bob Monroe&#39;s first Out-of-Body Experience (OBE) - YouTube

      Here is the page here on Dreamviews where I put all 8 of Bob Monroe's Youtubes back in August 2010 while defending Nick Newports work:

      http://www.dreamviews.com/f12/stop-d...02/index8.html

      look at post 184 on that page to click on the other 7 Robert Monroe Youtubes.

      It is in a thread that was locked on 27-March-2011

      On August the first 2012 the view count was 29,644 then seven days later it had gone up 179 views to 29,815 and I posted a message to me on my message wall.

      Now, today, 3-Oct-12 the view count is 30,833

      Thats 1,179 view in 2 months from 1-Aug-12 to 3-Oct.

      That is outstanding for a locked thread buried in the middle of page 35 in attaining lucidity.
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      Dear Atras and thebigm

      Quote Originally Posted by thebigm View Post
      If you haven't read the books debrajane, I highly recommend them.

      The first is by far the most digestible and the 2nd and 3rd border on far out and some of the language used is hard to comprehend.

      However, I feel that as I get a handle on this more and hopefully have some experiences myself it will mean more to me.
      Robert Monroe's OBE technique

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1O-...e_gdata_player

      (7:49) 21,260 views so far since uploaded by 1urbanshaman on 20-Feb-2011.

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      Powerful exercise for achieving SAFE out-of-body or remote viewing experience.*
      Very easy to achieve. Monroe Institute.
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      Update.

      I got a letter in the post, just now, from the owner of the book store where I ordered Leaving The Body by D. Scott Rogo it reads:

      Dear Debra

      I'm writing to say that we have heard that Leaving the Bodu is unfortunately out of print. (...)

      hmmmm

      I orded the book and put a deposit of $50 down (12 weeks ago) on 2nd of October 2012. It is Friday the 11th of January today.

      Sorry Folks

      but you can get the e-book for $10 here:

      https://ebookstore.sony.com/ebook/d-...00000000190623

      Also, here is a long, interesting artical:

      The above article (below) was published in D. Scott Rogo’s*Life After Death. The Case for Survival of Bodily Death*(London: Guild Publishing, 1986).

      Thoughts on Survival of Consciousness by D. Scott Rogo | Features on White Crow Books

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      I have that book on my phone. I like the idea on going obe from a dream which I have read in four different books including the D. Scott Rogo book you mentioned.

      I think 4 different ones but I could be wrong...


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      Quote Originally Posted by debrajane View Post

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      It was Labour Day Holiday yesterday but I got to the Cosmic Pages bookshop just after it opened to day to see if they had any Leaving the body. They didn't but placed an order for 10 from the US. There is an ebook, she said. They will take about 6 weeks to be shipped (if the Christmas shipment hasn't already been sent).



      After placing the order I browsed and found "Lucid Dreaming" Gateway to the Inner Self by Robert Waggoner. First printing September 2008.

      I bought it.

      Have you, thebigm, (or anyone reading this) read that book?



      I am happy that I have 2 people wanting to read Leaving the body and do some techniques with me.

      I have heard of that book and eventually want to read it.

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      Quote Originally Posted by oneiroer View Post
      I like the idea on going obe from a dream
      easiest way for me. it's actually the only reason i'm interested in lucid dreaming at all.
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      oneiroer thank you for your comments. And your reply to oneirer, runeworld.

      Here (to me) is an example of the difference between Lucid Dreaming and Astral Projecting (OBEing)

      page 31 and 32

      Earlier in this chapter, unconscious willing was defined as an all-consuming desire to attain a certain goal. This concentration must be so petsistent that it becomes everpresent in the in the mind. (...)

      Sylvan Muldoon, probably America's best known astral projector, was in full accord with Lancelin on many of these points. We know from his autobiographical The projection of the Astral Body, which he wrote as a young man in the late 1920s, that he learned of Lancelin's work only after having developed the ability of consciouse projection. (...)

      (...) ...the most important factor involved was not consciouse will.

      The act of consciouse willing acted primarily as a constant suggestion to the unconscious mind so that it, too, would will the projection.

      "Once the desire to have OBEs becomes a matter of unconscious and pre-eminent concern," he wrote, "spontaneous OBEs will then occure naturally".

      Muldoon called this the "passive will".


      It is also possible that once one has developed a priori ability to project, OBEs may occure spontaneously specifically through unconsciouse acts of will.

      This happened to me in 1977

      {dear reader I will continue this in the next post}

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      (continuing)

      This happened to me in 1977 during a business trip I made to New York from my home in Los Angeles. (...) I do not like to leave my home unattended, so Dave, a friend of mine, moved in to take care of it.

      For some reason I was worried about my house during this trip. I was concerned about my mail not being taken in, that Dave was not keeping the place locked, and a host of other worrisom little maters.

      I kept dwelling on them all the time.

      About a week after I left home, I began having out-of-body experiences for the first time in quite a while. After going to sleep I would suddenly find myself back in Los Angeles.I was aware that my body was in New York, and my self-awareness was very different from mere dreaming.

      (page 32)

      Invariably I would find myself in the hallway of my house, and I would just look around the place for a few moments, make sire everything was in order, and then will myself back to New York.

      These experiences were so vivid and convincing that I told Blue Harary, who was then working in New York, about them.

      {continuing in next post...pooped}

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      The climax to this rash of OBEs came on August 22.

      Once again I projected to my home and decided to see if I could find Dave and make my presence known to him. I materialised in the hallway of the house, entered the spare bedroom where I had suggested Dave should sleep, but saw his brother instead.

      This confused me, and I returned to my body in New York.

      When I returned to Los Angeles I was greeted with quite a story!

      It seems that during the time that I was having my experiences in New York, Dave had negun hearing odd sounds and human groans in the house.

      On the night of August 22-the date when I decided to make my presence known to him-Dave had seen, a fleeting apparition shooting through the hallway of the house. This had so frightened him that he had left the house!

      I also learned that, just as I had seen, Dave's brother had spent the night at the house and had slept in the spare bedroom.

      (...)
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