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      Shared dreams?

      Hello fellow dreamers,

      I just wanted to ask you if you believe in shared dreams. Do you think it's possible for two (or more) people to dream the exact dream, and if so, do you think it would be a coincidence that the story of the dream was the same, or do you think they actually somehow met in their dreams?
      Perhaps entered REM sleep at the exact same time or something...

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      Shared Dreaming like other things is certainly a possibility, and we've had several people here at DV who've claimed to have had a shared dream.

      It could be possible that people could meet via dreams, but never really know because they haven't encountered that person in waking life. People's REM cycle could be on time with anothers and possibly end up in a shared dream, (hypothetically.)

      My guess would be that if two or more people came upon a shared dream, the story/setting/etc would probably be the same for everyone, since it is the same dream after all.

      I can answer only so little due to lack of knowledge, hah. However, there is a Forum dedicated to Shared Dreaming if you're intrested. Give it a peek- http://www.dreamviews.com/f144/ <-- Hope this could've been of any help.
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      If minds are synergizing while dreaming wouldn't there be a way to experiment and test it? I haven't done any research on this, but I think that if it was possible it would have to be tested to avoid cases of sheer coincidence and imposters.

      Maybe a more informed person on this topic can explain how the minds would link together to create a shared dream.
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      Quote Originally Posted by BossMan View Post
      If minds are synergizing while dreaming wouldn't there be a way to experiment and test it? I haven't done any research on this, but I think that if it was possible it would have to be tested to avoid cases of sheer coincidence and imposters.

      Maybe a more informed person on this topic can explain how the minds would link together to create a shared dream.
      Telepathy.

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      Quote Originally Posted by hathor28 View Post
      Telepathy.
      AKA an Illusion

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      Quote Originally Posted by BossMan View Post
      AKA an Illusion
      not really

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      Perhaps that's what happens whenever you fall asleep, because chances are, with seven billion other people in the world, that someone is falling asleep at the same time. So maybe every DC is actually a real person, you just have no idea that they're a real person.
      Alternatively, astral projection is pretty similar to what you're talking about.

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      It isn't so difficult that two people are in REM at the same time. Then, of course, this is not a demonstration for shared dreams, but I want to believe they're possible by the way. Remember there are lots and lots behind what we think is reality, and everything (and more!) we can think it's possible: for example, couldn't it been than during REM we send our informations, which in the end constitute our psyche, in a sort of other dimension made only of information? This is what theorized T. McKenna (not about lucid dreams, but i took my idea from him).

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      Hmm. This is a little beyond common knowledge of the dreaming subject.

      Telepathy.
      Yes, if Telepathy is real, that would work perfectly.

      [QUOTE]Perhaps that's what happens whenever you fall asleep, because chances are, with seven billion other people in the world, that someone is falling asleep at the same time. So maybe every DC is actually a real person, you just have no idea that they're a real person.[QUOTE]

      But even if two people are in REM at the same time, what reason in the world would cause them to be in the same dream? That's beyond me. Also, DC's are more known to be a part of yourself, people and characteristics manifesting itself as projections.

      If anything at all, it might have something to do with the Astral Plane. I found a thread in the Beyond Dreaming forum for Shared Dreaming: http://www.dreamviews.com/f19/shared...n-lucid-92912/
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      Non sense. People need to know much more about physics and science in general.

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      Quote Originally Posted by sanctispiritus View Post
      Non sense. People need to know much more about physics and science in general.
      i'm not a scientist or so on, but something i know, but it's so funny to think to possibilities of things such as shared dreams and believe in them
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      Best discussion in DV history
      Hathor: telepathy
      Bossman: AKA an illusion
      Hathor: not really

      , This just shows that it is up to you what to believe. I think there might be some credibility to it, hence why I am testing it with my friends. I still think that it probably isn't real because people are always looking for superpowers in real life.

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      Quote Originally Posted by dutchraptor View Post
      Best discussion in DV history
      Hathor: telepathy
      Bossman: AKA an illusion
      Hathor: not really

      , This just shows that it is up to you what to believe. I think there might be some credibility to it, hence why I am testing it with my friends. I still think that it probably isn't real because people are always looking for superpowers in real life.

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      I've been lurking around the beyond dreaming section for the past few days. And it seems like waking nomad and raven knight know quite a bit about shared dreaming. Apparently they've also shared dreams with other people from DV. Though I can't bring myself to believe in his talk about entities demons and Gawn he's kinda made me think about the possibility of shared dreaming. I see it as 3 possibilities.
      1. Shared dreaming isnt real. The whole things a huge scam he made up with about 3 or 4 other DV members in on it. They have filled their dream journals with page after page of lies while meticulously keeping their stories simular.
      2. shared dreaming is possible and atleast part of waking nomads theories are true but widely unnoticed and unstudied because of the skill required to perform it, most people don't record their dreams let alone share them with others. Its difficult to prove. It's not profitable or respectable to study and its generally thought of as
      paranormal.
      3. All of what waking nomad says is true even the stuff about spirits and entities. In the case of both 2 and 3. Textbooks will need to be rewritten and we will seriously need to rethink our whole existence.

      I think 2 is the most probable but shared dreaming is something you more or less can't prove and need to experience it to believe it. I'd attempt it but I don't have a reliable way if inducing lucid dreams anyway. Some of you advanced dreamers on here should try it out and post results
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      Quote Originally Posted by Scribblenaut View Post
      I've been lurking around the beyond dreaming section for the past few days. And it seems like waking nomad and raven knight know quite a bit about shared dreaming. Apparently they've also shared dreams with other people from DV. Though I can't bring myself to believe in his talk about entities demons and Gawn he's kinda made me think about the possibility of shared dreaming. I see it as 3 possibilities.
      1. Shared dreaming isnt real. The whole things a huge scam he made up with about 3 or 4 other DV members in on it. They have filled their dream journals with page after page of lies while meticulously keeping their stories simular.
      2. shared dreaming is possible and atleast part of waking nomads theories are true but widely unnoticed and unstudied because of the skill required to perform it, most people don't record their dreams let alone share them with others. Its difficult to prove. It's not profitable or respectable to study and its generally thought of as
      paranormal.
      3. All of what waking nomad says is true even the stuff about spirits and entities. In the case of both 2 and 3. Textbooks will need to be rewritten and we will seriously need to rethink our whole existence.

      I think 2 is the most probable but shared dreaming is something you more or less can't prove and need to experience it to believe it. I'd attempt it but I don't have a reliable way if inducing lucid dreams yet. Dutchraptor, you should try to share a dream with waking nomad. You seem to be a pretty advanced lucid dreamer.
      I only read this halfway......sorry i believed in shared dreaming (telepathy dreams) even before i knew waking nomad. You can google telepathic dreams, there was a study about it.
      It sounds like my input won't help a troll either.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Scribblenaut View Post
      1. Shared dreaming isnt real. The whole things a huge scam he made up with about 3 or 4 other DV members in on it. They have filled their dream journals with page after page of lies while meticulously keeping their stories simular.
      Can you prove this?

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      At least scribblenauts statement is falsifiable. Can't exactly say the same thing for shared dreaming.

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      I believe shared dreaming is possible. The people who scoff at it don't realize that it's a fool's confidence leading them to think they know every thing about this world. Nobody knows nor will anybody ever know everything about the world and what's possible/impossible. I'm not religious but even the holy "science" cannot explain everything so scoff at whatever you want it just makes you look closed-minded and if you think that's a good look for you then, by all means, continue what you're doing.
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      "If this is a dream the whole world is inside it."

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      Being a skeptic doesn't mean you "know everything about the world," it just means you learn to question what is being presented as fact. And the facts are shared dreaming is not falsifiable whether you like it or not. Also being open-minded isn't about just believing any crock-pot theory that comes your way, that just shows a naive simplistic nature if you think that's a good look for you then, by all means, continue what you're doing.
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      Please, notice that nothing in science disagree with my supposition of the information-dimension. Even better, the multiverse theory is approved by almost all the scientists. And the principle of Lavasier doesn't create any contrast, because it refers on substance, and informations are intangible , but real. They should be waves (i don't know if this is already assured).
      Of course, what I've written dimostrate Shared Dreams aren't impossible, i'm not here to strongly say they are true ( until ill have experienced them).

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      Well he didn't reply with my question, and he brought up some DV names and mocked them which was very inappropriate for this thread and completely off.

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      Hathor 28 I assume your talking about me. Im a girl btw. I wasnt trying to mock anyone or be a troll. I was trying to say that waking nomad seems to have the most of shared dreaming experience/posts/interesting stuff about it. I said the 3 things were all possibilities not that I could prove them all true. So yes it's possible all of it's a scam and made up but I also said that was a really small chance because that would be a really complex lie. So I concluded at the bottom that atleast most of what they say is true. Or maybe all of it is. I'm just not ready to believe in dream gods and dream entities yet. Overall, at the bottom I recognized that shared dreaming is something you believe in or not and something you have to expirience. Im not saying anyones right or wrong just why I believe it could be possible. I'm sorry for anyone I offended. I didnt mean it
      Oh and I'm sorry I didn't reply sooner I was asleep and
      Didn't notice
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      Quote Originally Posted by Scribblenaut View Post
      So yes it's possible all of it's a scam and made up but I also said that was a really small chance because that would be a really complex lie. So I concluded at the bottom that atleast most of what they say is true. Or maybe all of it is. I'm just not ready to believe in dream gods and dream entities yet. Overall, at the bottom I recognized that shared dreaming is something you believe in or not and something you have to expirience. Im not saying anyones right or wrong just why I believe it could be possible.
      Doesn't matter who you are btw, you can't just randomly post and assume it's a scam. It does say a lot about you.
      You can't just say it's possible all of it is a scam and then conclude saying "it's a really small chance." Then why did you post when there is no conclusion??? It really makes someone think what you are about.

      I'm just not ready to believe in dream gods and dream entities yet.
      Who said you should???? Doesn't mean you should believe those when it comes to shared dreaming, this isn't a cult.
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      Wtf is a dream god? The only dream god I know of is me.
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