I'm also kinda using Buhlman's technique. Are you also using affirmations, like "now I'm out of body"? |
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I didn't start this thread to start a fight please no arguing. |
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I'm also kinda using Buhlman's technique. Are you also using affirmations, like "now I'm out of body"? |
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I read that and I thought about saying to myself that I will have clarity now like he did in one of his journals. I think I'll read the affirmations and pick some out along with verses from the bible. Thanks gab. Good luck to you too! |
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1. When I lay down, I start with imagining a dome of while light around me that's filled with devine light of protection and love. |
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I'm kinda lazy when it comes to what you said about the light and energy but maybe I'll try that tonight. |
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good luck guys. i've been unsuccessful with everything except WBTB so i've stuck with that method. i think if i dedicated myself to doing more energy work i would have an easier time. i haven't yet been able to activate my chakras manually but i definitely feel them right before and after an OBE. the other night when it was over i could feel the one in the center of my back still vibrating like crazy. i'm getting some acupuncture work done tomorrow and hopefully that will help as well. |
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Just woke up from a nap, during which I kept falling asleep (or getting close to) and being snapped out of it by my cat. Each time I woke up, my vibrations were stronger. They started in my lower torso and thighs. I mentally tried to make them stronger and have them spread. Last time I woke up, I was vibrating all over, mostly in my jaw and face. |
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Cool gab. That reminds me of a feeling i related to in another post about my jaw hurting when i woke up but i checked it and it didn't really hurt after i woke up but could it have been vibrations or i might have slept on it strangely. Might you know? |
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Try and notice next time. The more you think about it, more they will come and more you will notice. I think, all of the progress I made as of late, is from me just thinking about stuff and reading about it. When you think about it, stuff starts to happen. At least for me. |
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nice gab! sounds like progress to me. i had an interesting DILD last night that didn't cause vibrations where normally as soon as i become aware of the dream that triggers it. i have a strange feeling my guide pulled me out of the dream purposefully after i was ahem...distracted by another character. kind of like telling me no..you're not here to waste time, get control of your thoughts. |
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Gab, that is a very interesting method! |
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I got it from Buhlman and it really resonates with me. Haha, pun intended. It feels so natural. |
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I'm liking what Buhlman said about repetition. Half hearted attempts bring half hearted results. We must be willing to make a full emotional and intellectual commitment to this exploration. According to Buhlman. |
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Last edited by gab; 01-19-2013 at 12:36 AM.
Just woke up from a noon nap. Had to do it on my bed, because my cats took over my "traveling sofa". As soon as I sat in the bed, one cat jumped to me and kept fidgeting for a long time. Needles to say, that didn't help me to fall asleep. |
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nice. i'm actually going to take a break on the WBTB routine. i'm somewhat of an insomniac as it is and it really affects the rest of my sleep if i get up and start thinking too much. just got done with my acupuncture appointment as well and i don't believe it's going to make a bit of difference in my energy work lol. i didn't realize it was so focused on physical body. |
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I didn't have an obe last night but I did wake up before 3 hours of sleep. I woke up from a dream in which I don't remember all of but I remember thinking of the name Philiemon or something like that which an author I don't remember who's name dreamed about and he was like his guide or something. |
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I took a nap and in the dream I became lucid. i thought it was reality but it wasn't... Anyway in the dream I was beginning to have vibrations, pretty violently. I'm gonna take that as a sign to try and go obe from a lucid dream and I'm gonna try to have intent next time. |
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Last edited by oneiroer; 01-21-2013 at 07:51 PM.
definitely a sign oneiroer. for me if i get real strong vibrations it's pretty much effortless to float out at that point just by thinking about it. if you are lucid in a dream you can always just fly straight up and out too. most likely your vision will fade to black as you exit the dream and then it should come back in a moment....then just stay calm!!!! (exclamation points should help stay calm |
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Thanks Runeword I'll try that. I have a question for you. I was inexperienced at the time and still am... but I think I tried flying out of the dream in a nightmare a long time ago. Here's basically what happened. I flew up in a neighborhood in a dream and I got caught up in a bed and had a hard time getting out of the sheets... But when I finally did I just went to another dreamscape. How do you fly out of a dream without going into another dream? Just practice? |
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Last edited by oneiroer; 01-21-2013 at 11:47 PM.
hmm i dunno oneiroer for me that's just what usually happens or i guess i have had some false awakenings happen too. once you get lucid in the dream just make the decision to go out of body and then just fly straight up as fast as you can. my guess is that it's mostly to do with your intentions cause i know some people can clear the dreamscape away just by continually calling for "clarity now". for me it just feels natural to just fly out maybe cause of the upward and out motion. usually what happens though is once i become lucid my chakras are all activated and vibrating, dream will fade to black, then i just lift out and wait for my vision to come back in the energy body or sometimes i'll have to specifically demand it. "i see with my energy eyes now" or "i see perfectly now". you need to be specific about what you actually need help with. usually for me it's vision that i have to get help with. sometimes i'll go out and be blind just trying to move around blind for awhile or even just partial vision. one time i popped out and it was like someone had their hand over the top half of my eyes. you get some odd stuff that happens but just remember to be specific about what you need help with and it will come. a few nights ago i woke into this really strange false awakening and did a reality check by plugging my nose and trying to breathe. breath comes just fine so instantly i'm lucid but kind of low powered or something. was struggling a little to get all the way out even with strong vibrations. completely blind and i'm only just barely out so i call out for help and raise my hand up and immediately another hand grabs mine and just pulls me out easily. just remember help is always there when you need it. |
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Thanks for the info Runeword. I'll try all you said. I have confidence I can achieve this now. I'm reading Buhlman's Adventure's Beyond The Body more closely from the beginning too. This may sound strange but I read in a beginner book a while back that sometimes your double can manifest to people. I'm not sure I want that even though I'm not going to stalk anybody if I achieve this. I just want to explore. I think it might be a fear that could ruin my attempts. Any thoughts on this? |
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Last edited by oneiroer; 01-22-2013 at 04:38 AM.
i've heard of people being able to sense the presence or yes even sometimes see another person's "double" as you put it. i've read that pets are especially sensitive to that. i don't have any experience with it though personally. i was thinking about your comment i responded to earlier about flying out of a dream into another dreamscape and depending on how much of your awareness you're able to sustain i think it would be really easy to slip back into a dream experience. it could also be that when you flew out of the dream into another dreamscape that you were actually OOB and just didn't realize it. it's really hard to say but at the end you are the only one that really knows for sure. for me when i am transitioning into a new energy body my vision fades out first. i've never gone straight from a dream with full sense of sight into an OOB but maybe that's just me. |
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My initial experiences were part of my spiritual life as a pentecostal christian. That particular tradition is extremely experience oriented so it gave me a considerable amount of time to explore spiritual experiences. |
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