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      Possible out of body experience during NREM1?

      So I went to bed at 11.48pm last night, and I've read somewhere that we all have out of body experiences during the night. But we just can't remember them. So I started repeating this mantra: "If I have an obe tonight, i'm gonna remember it" something like that. I fell asleep. And a few minutes later I was in my room floating around, I left my house and suddenly I was talking to other people/beings on the streets. And I woke up after that conversation. I don't know what we were talking about it, it wasn't vivid to be honest. Right after waking up, I had this feeling I just went somewhere else. It's hard to describe. So this happened from 11.55pm - 12.18am. It couldn't have been a lucid dream cause I wasn't in REM I suppose. Was this an out of body experience? Cause I don't recall me actually leaving the body or getting back in. It wasn't vivid and kinda blurry.
      DILD: 9 | MILD: - | DEILD: - | WILD: 2
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      Sounds like a dream about it to me. Especially the blurry. Dreams are often blurry.

      You are trying to have OBEs? I am glad to see you overcome your fears. Way to be a beast about it.

      I would recommend focusing on LDing. OBEs and APs seem to be easier when you can LD better.

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      Quote Originally Posted by BrandonBoss View Post
      Sounds like a dream about it to me. Especially the blurry. Dreams are often blurry.

      You are trying to have OBEs? I am glad to see you overcome your fears. Way to be a beast about it.

      I would recommend focusing on LDing. OBEs and APs seem to be easier when you can LD better.
      Is it actually possible to have dreams during NREM? Because I thought it was very unlikely to have dreams outside of REM o: I'm still focusing on lucid dreaming btw But I just thought I would give obe/ap a go haha
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      Yes. You always dream when you are asleep. In NREM they are just not as vivid, if you work on recall a lot, you can get them more vivid, but REM will always be better dreams.

      Whatever keeps you motivated! Gotta keep on keeping on!

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      Nice to hear from you, crashyy:]

      Yes, you can have OBEs outside of REM. And also dreams in NREM. They are just not as vivid or long as REM dreams. That's why REM dreams is what we are after.

      OBEs are not always vivid. It could have been a OBE, or a dream about OBE, or a WILD (sometimes you float out, roll out for a WILD). But either way, that looks like you are getting more aware. So you see how your mantra worked, keep it up.

      You know, you can use mantras for everyday things as well, not just for dreaming. Give it a try

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      Psychologists reckon that dreams nearly always occur during REM. However, Psychologists often seem to come to the wrong conclusions about dreams. For example, they used to think back in the 1960s that we dreamed in black and white but I knew even then that I dreamed in colour. I know for sure that it is possible to have a dream during sleep state 1 (i.e. a non-REM state) because some years ago I often had myoclonic jerks and on one occasion, I remembered the dream that I was having whilst producing the jerk, i.e. immediately before waking up. I was walking along an icy footpath and, as happens, my leg slipped forward on the ice and I started falling down. My physical leg jerking, in other words, coincided with my dream leg jerking forward. These myoclonic jerks occur immediately after falling asleep, at which time one is in sleep state 1. Muldoon identifies a connection between a myoclonic jerk, dreaming of falling down and the etheric body snapping back down into the physical body.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Dronfieldman View Post
      Psychologists reckon that dreams nearly always occur during REM. However, Psychologists often seem to come to the wrong conclusions about dreams. For example, they used to think back in the 1960s that we dreamed in black and white but I knew even then that I dreamed in colour. I know for sure that it is possible to have a dream during sleep state 1 (i.e. a non-REM state) because some years ago I often had myoclonic jerks and on one occasion, I remembered the dream that I was having whilst producing the jerk, i.e. immediately before waking up. I was walking along an icy footpath and, as happens, my leg slipped forward on the ice and I started falling down. My physical leg jerking, in other words, coincided with my dream leg jerking forward. These myoclonic jerks occur immediately after falling asleep, at which time one is in sleep state 1. Muldoon identifies a connection between a myoclonic jerk, dreaming of falling down and the etheric body snapping back down into the physical body.
      This happens to me quite often. I didn't know there always a name for it. thanks.

      I have all sorts of dreams in the first hour of sleep. It is easier to notice if you have a wife or kids that wake you up a lot. Sometimes you will only be asleep for like 5 minutes and have a dream.

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