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      ^ Brainstorm sounds similar in some respects to Strange Days.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Darkmatters View Post
      ^ Brainstorm sounds similar in some respects to Strange Days.
      I just Google "Strange Days", Dark Matter, and found this:

      In December 1999,*Los Angeles
      *has become a dangerous war zone. As a group of criminals rob a Chinese restaurant, the event is recorded by a robber wearing a 'SQUID
      ', or "Superconducting Quantum Interference Device", which records events directly from the wearer's*cerebral cortex
      , and when played back through a*MiniDisc
      -like device allow a user to experience the recorder's memory.

      Maybe, should a gang of Dreamviewers do a nice, long, weekly, dream remote view, thingy, we might discover that we already have a "S.Q.I.D." on our heads (hehehehahahs)
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      Back in October of 1999, I dont remember the exact date but thats the time frame, I dreamed that I was in Turkey and there had been a really bad earthquake that sank a 3 story apartment building entirely underground. I was keeping a boy company who had survived, but he was trapped with his dead father and was scared. I still to this day remember the dream clearly as if it was last night. I touched him on the shoulder and told him he was going to be alright. He would be found safe, but that it would take rescuers three days to dig him out. I woke up just as the sun came up, filled my coffee cup, turned on the news to CNN, saw that over night there had been a bad earthquake in Turkey (it was late afternoon there). On the news they were showing a story of a boy who was trapped under the rubble in a sunken building, who had used a cellphone to call a local radio station, so he could let someone know where he was and that he was alright, but his father who he was with, had died when the building collapsed underground. The firefighters were telling him on the phone that it would take them three days to get to him.

      I remember almost dropping the coffee cup. I got on my knees and asked God why He would use someone like me, a nobody, to help someone in a situation like that, on the other side of the world where I had no way of helping.

      The answer I got was that I was listening.
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      Quote Originally Posted by debrajane View Post
      Lilian creates a hat that can record everything a mind experiences. Then, as she is dying, she puts the hat on. Later her best friend and colleague puts the hat on and runs the tape of Lilian's death.

      Thank you Phil.

      Plenty of food for thought there, in the film "Brainstorm".

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      I like to sleep. I avoid confrontations. I occasionaly pig out with lots of favourite foods.
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      This is a bit off topic, if its possible to be off topic in this thread. I'm posting it here because it relates more directly to this thread than to any other thread or forum theme.

      In a dream last night I was surfing around a hilly lawn in a lawn chair, thinking something like 'Yeah this violates a couple of energy conservation laws, but its a dream. Simulating waking life physics even to this extent helps give the dream a kind of coherence, even though simulation isn't completely accurate." By the standard technical definition of lucid dreaming, this was a lucid dream, since I was aware I was dreaming. But it was just an ordinary dream, expressing my developing thoughts about dreaming, just as everybody's dreams express their developing thoughts about whatever it is that they are concerned with.

      The definition of 'lucid' seems to reflect an underlying assumption that people dream about being awake, and that a person is lucid when they have the mental presence to recognize that they're not really awake, that its a "dream". But for the most part you don't dream about being awake if you're more concerned in life with thoughts and ideas, and not about what you're running around 'doing' with other parts of your body besides your brain. A thought is a thought whether you're awake or asleep.

      Different parts of a person's mind work together in different ways at different times, and while asleep some parts of the mind are generally less active than when awake. The mix is different for different people. Why should being 'awake' while being asleep in some particular way be considered an accomplishment? By itself it doesn't mean you're more aware generally, and it doesn't mean you have better control over your mind either. If you're dreaming "I'm choosing to do this, and now I'm choosing to do that" that doesn't mean you have more control. You are controlling the virtual reality 'person' in your dream, but the you who is doing that is being controlled by a deeper you who decides what you are allowed to think of doing when you're doing that. And if you try to think about that deeper you, you're doing self-inquiry in a way that's easier for you when you're asleep. Can you count that, or make additional copies of the experience? Does a higher count mean your better at it or worse at it?

      So in my lawn-surfing dream last night, a dog climbs onto my lap. Then I couldn't surf because the dog was too heavy. I thought "I'll add a button to my chair that sends electricity between the skids on my chair, then I'll be able to move with the added weight. I know that doesn't make sense, but I can pretend it makes sense because its a dream."

      This dog is like almost any other dog: if there's an empty box or bag with an interesting smell it sticks its nose in to see what's in it. But the dog must be trained, disciplined! In my dream, a man gives the dog a lesson by closing it in a sack and frightening the trapped and blinded dog from outside. When the dog comes out it is shaking with anguish, and I try to comfort it. But what the man cares about is controlling the dog's behavior, not how the dog is feeling, or what psychological damage he may be causing.

      I think that when you think of what is in your dream as being inside your 'own' mind, subject to your personal control, you are locking a part of yourself in a bag like that dog. Your spirit is more than that, more than just 'your' spirit. Maybe its good to train the dog, to develop it into more than a wild animal in a domestic setting. But the dog needs and deserves compassion. If you think that the dog needs to be treated like a 'straw dog' because it is imperfect or illusory, or just a tool, then I think that is not compassion, and you've somehow replaced your compassion with brutality in the form of a belief about mental accomplishment.

      I'm not addressing any particular person or group of people, my use of the word 'you' is largely rhetorical.
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      Quote Originally Posted by shadowofwind View Post
      This dog is like almost any other dog: if there's an empty box or bag with an interesting smell it sticks its nose in to see what's in it. But the dog must be trained, disciplined! In my dream, a man gives the dog a lesson by closing it in a sack and frightening the trapped and blinded dog from outside. When the dog comes out it is shaking with anguish, and I try to comfort it. But what the man cares about is controlling the dog's behavior, not how the dog is feeling, or what psychological damage he may be causing.

      I think that when you think of what is in your dream as being inside your 'own' mind, subject to your personal control, you are locking a part of yourself in a bag like that dog. Your spirit is more than that, more than just 'your' spirit. Maybe its good to train the dog, to develop it into more than a wild animal in a domestic setting. But the dog needs and deserves compassion. If you think that the dog needs to be treated like a 'straw dog' because it is imperfect or illusory, or just a tool, then I think that is not compassion, and you've somehow replaced your compassion with brutality in the form of a belief about mental accomplishment.
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      I know what you mean. After I gained full control years ago I got bored eventually. That is why I "Free Dream" most of the time to see where my dream will take me. I never know. That is the fun part for me now.

      Longtime Lucid Dreamer & Dream Controller.
      Started over 40 years ago naturally & learned on my own.
      I control my dreams every night.

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      Okay, I'll bite, EricinLA:

      You've mentioned "free dreaming" several times now, always in quotes. What is that, exactly? Are you talking about being self-aware, but going with the flow of the dream without interfering, or are you simply talking about non-lucid dreams?

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      I think he means being self-aware but not doing anything and just going with the flow of his subconscious.

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      EricinLA

      I'm bringing across from saltcube, the host's remarkable dream experiments. the names have been changed (to numbers) to protect the innocent. But I am sure the blow by blow accounts will interest you and others.

      here is the link to my thread on saltcube:

      *** http://www.dreamviews.com/senseless-...ml#post1998491 ***

      saltcube is no longer open and hardly anyone posts any more so it is not worth going there if you don't already have an account.

      but if anyone reading this has an account at saltcube here is a thread where I am collecting all 35 of saltcub's owner's dream experiments.

      After I collect his 35 I will collect together, in one thread, "Eye's" 48.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Sageous View Post
      Okay, I'll bite, EricinLA:

      You've mentioned "free dreaming" several times now, always in quotes. What is that, exactly? Are you talking about being self-aware, but going with the flow of the dream without interfering, or are you simply talking about non-lucid dreams?
      It is pretty much what you think. I've had full control so long that I got bored. So most of time now I just "Free Dream". Go where the dream takes me even though I can take control or alter the dream at anytime if I feel like it. It can be fun and learn things.

      Longtime Lucid Dreamer & Dream Controller.
      Started over 40 years ago naturally & learned on my own.
      I control my dreams every night.

      Eric in Los Angeles

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      If anyone on here has ever watched a modern Star Trek series, or movies, you will know about the 'Q'
      A race of omnipitent ( Is that spelled rite ) beings with limitless powers.
      They control time, life, and can readily manipulate the laws of physics.
      Only one drawback - They are all bored to tears. Done that. Been there.

      This is what happens when you give a person limitless power.
      99% of members on here are aiming for control in dreams. They want to be a 'Q' in their dreams.
      The others that have experienced full control, now try to let it go.

      The road must be travelled in order to see this destination.
      Knowing this from experience is the only way it can truly be understood.

      I wish you all well on your journey.

      Quote from some wise person - " It is not the destination that matters, but the journey "

      EricInLA is on the same path as everyone else, just a little further along.

      Hope this makes sense.
      Phil

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      Quote Originally Posted by debrajane View Post
      EricinLA

      I'm bringing across from saltcube, the host's remarkable dream experiments. the names have been changed (to numbers) to protect the innocent. But I am sure the blow by blow accounts will interest you and others.

      here is the link to my thread on saltcube:

      *** http://www.dreamviews.com/senseless-...ml#post1998491 ***

      saltcube is no longer open and hardly anyone posts any more so it is not worth going there if you don't already have an account.

      but if anyone reading this has an account at saltcube here is a thread where I am collecting all 35 of saltcub's owner's dream experiments.

      After I collect his 35 I will collect together, in one thread, "Eye's" 48.
      If I get this correct. This is remote viewing. I really don't have much interest in it. I'm more into trying to expand what is possible in a dream. I think remote viewing is something different. Tell me if I'm wrong.

      Longtime Lucid Dreamer & Dream Controller.
      Started over 40 years ago naturally & learned on my own.
      I control my dreams every night.

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      Quote Originally Posted by EricinLA View Post
      If I get this correct. This is remote viewing. I really don't have much interest in it. I'm more into trying to expand what is possible in a dream. I think remote viewing is something different. Tell me if I'm wrong.

      Eric

      Me, and others like me, just, excitedly, went to sleep chanting

      "What's in the box" or "What's in the star" while seeing the box or star.

      Then

      Recorded or dreams when we woke up and had a guess at what the object was.

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      Quote Originally Posted by debrajane View Post
      Eric

      Me, and others like me, just, excitedly, went to sleep chanting

      "What's in the box" or "What's in the star" while seeing the box or star.

      Then

      Recorded or dreams when we woke up and had a guess at what the object was.
      Why not repeat the experiment with another object.
      I am willing to have a go, and I am sure many who tried first time, will want to know if they are now skilled enough to guess correctly.

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      Oh My God (!!!)

      YAD is back

      This amazing dreamer can expand his nights dream to "years" in one night.

      and cause ...

      YAD once effected the future by doing something in a "recurring" PreCOGNITIVE dream.

      and he fully documented it.

      sync sync sync.

      YAD is just the man (dreamer) you are hoping to meet, EricinLA.

      Check him out! Here is his profile:

      View Profile: YAD - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views


      YAD is back!!!

      I just checked "Home" and saw his old Avatar. This is that post:

      Look at Past #6

      http://www.dreamviews.com/beyond-dre...ml#post1998616


      Oh, Hi Phil

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      Quote Originally Posted by blackbirdrising View Post
      I got on my knees and asked God why He would use someone like me, a nobody, to help someone in a situation like that, on the other side of the world where I had no way of helping.

      The answer I got was that I was listening.
      I think you helped. Maybe that boy is telling someone (or keeping it a secret) how an angel was giving him courage.

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      Hi gab

      Ian Wilson (YAD)

      Talking on a radio program. Very, very interesting.

      August Special Edition 08/08 by Unraveling Secrets | Blog Talk Radio

      Hahaha the weekly local rag just arrived and emblazoned on the front page is:

      YOUR Tribe is Calling

      YAD is a member of my tribe. I thought I'd lost my tribe years ago (on 11-11-10) perhaps they are coming here.

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      Hi. I am very interested in every ones views here. I have only read up to page two so I don't know every thing that was said on here but I too have experienced "dreaming the future" and I would like to help any way I can. I think it is a little weird because I am currently writing a book about dreams and in it the main character can control her dreams down to the very detail, but she also wonders about connecting dreams world wide. I think this is interesting because I only found this site today yet I had the story written up over three months ago. I don't really control my dreams all too often and have no clue any terminology that you guys are using but every once in a while right in the middle of the dream I will choose to do something different with it.

      Quote Originally Posted by EricinLA View Post
      If I get this correct. This is remote viewing. I really don't have much interest in it. I'm more into trying to expand what is possible in a dream. I think remote viewing is something different. Tell me if I'm wrong.

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      Quote Originally Posted by EricinLA View Post
      I'm looking for people which I would consider to be Advanced or Expert Level in Controlling their dreams. I've never met anyone else who had the control other than myself to try the experiment. Now that I have found this site maybe it is possible to try it. Please don't apply unless you are at the level I'm seeking.

      I've always wondered if my dreams were only in my mind or something more.

      Here is my simple experiment:

      1) Have 2 or more Advanced Dream Controllers try to connect their dreams and see if it can be done. It shouldn't make a difference how far apart they are physically. Just as long at they both try it on the same night and approximate time.

      2) I would pass on to the other person a piece of information only in the dream. If the other person can tell me what I revealed I would consider it a success.

      This would show if dreams are just totally independent of each other and only in the persons mind or something more.

      Maybe I'm crazy but I have always wondered. Especially since I dream now and then when I am just letting the dream go and take it's own path without too much interruption from me. I sometimes dream of things that will happen at some future date. I don't know what to think about it. My wife even more. Because I will tell her in the morning and when they come to pass she used to kind of get freaked out about it. Now we just try to see if they will come true or not. Kind of fun in a way.

      So are dreams just dreams or something more?

      Who is up for this that is at the level I'm looking for???

      Hi, I don't know what exactly you mean by dream control, but all my dreams are lucid and I have full control of them. We are exploring dream sharing for some time now, in a small closed group. It is definitely possible. Time zone is not a problem here, you can observe the other person waking life events if he is not sleeping.

      pm me if you are still up for it, we can try at any night.
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