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      November 13th: Starting today, I'm reversing the side of the magnet I tape to my forehead. I'm now using the side of the magnet, that attracts metal. The South side. To review, I've taken the magnet out of the inside of a computer harddrive. Small and flat.

      Going to wear it this way, about an hour a day, for at least two weeks. Then, I'm thinking about going back to the first method of wearing it, IF I see no change.
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      Just an interesting note: magnets affect plasma TVs because plasma is any material consisting of ionized particles. An ion is a particle with a net charge, meaning it is either missing electrons or has a few extra. Since they have a charge and are not neutral (like water), they are affected by magnetic fields.

      In fact, most of the space in our solar system is full of plasma ejected by the sun. The major hurdle of sending astronauts to Mars is that they would be exposed to the plasma in space, causing various radiation-based damage and cancers. One of the proposed solutions is to shield the astronauts with an electromagnetic field, like how the earth's electromagnetic field works to protect us from the sun's most harmful radiation. A lot of people think it's the atmosphere, but really it's the powerful electromagnetic field created by the earth's crust and core.
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      Incredibly dangerous idea, especially if you are dealing with the S side of the magnet.

      If the magnet is long enough (probably over 4 inches), then it mimics the magnetic monopole somewhat. Even today the magnetic monopole is a relatively elusive topic for anyone studying electromagnetism.

      The attraction of liquids on the N monopole will channel water inside the brain in a certain direction (depending on the location of the magnet on the surface of your scull), stimulating or dampening synaptic activity (neuron-neuron communication) in areas of the brain specified by the location of magnet on the scull as well as its strength. Same for the S side of the magnet, but with potentially devastating results.

      Tractography is the standard scientific term used to describe a very useful method of brain mapping, its usefulness comes from the ability of tracking water flow. What I'm trying to say is that screwing with the natural flow of water in your brain with a magnet powerful enough will (with unquestionable certainty) impair your cognitive abilities.

      Be very careful with your experimental procedures. I have nothing more to add to this discussion.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Overevolved View Post
      Incredibly dangerous idea, especially if you are dealing with the S side of the magnet.

      If the magnet is long enough (probably over 4 inches), then it mimics the magnetic monopole somewhat. Even today the magnetic monopole is a relatively elusive topic for anyone studying electromagnetism.

      The attraction of liquids on the N monopole will channel water inside the brain in a certain direction (depending on the location of the magnet on the surface of your scull), stimulating or dampening synaptic activity (neuron-neuron communication) in areas of the brain specified by the location of magnet on the scull as well as its strength. Same for the S side of the magnet, but with potentially devastating results.

      Tractography is the standard scientific term used to describe a very useful method of brain mapping, its usefulness comes from the ability of tracking water flow. What I'm trying to say is that screwing with the natural flow of water in your brain with a magnet powerful enough will (with unquestionable certainty) impair your cognitive abilities.

      Be very careful with your experimental procedures. I have nothing more to add to this discussion.
      I'm using a flat magnet, I don't know if it has any damaging effect on my brain or not. But, you bring up a valid point, doing this may have a negative effect on the brain's function.

      I've been doing this for almost two months now, everyday. Can't say I've had any major noticeable effects. I do seem to remember my dreams when I wake up in the morning, can even remember up to three. Had six days in a row when I remembered them. Even had a couple of lucid dreams, though, could not keep lucidity for long, the dream would revert back to a passive dream.

      It's possible the magnet is not causing me remember dreams, probably not. Could be for some other reason. I'm going to continue using magnet on forehead, for another month or two, probably no longer.

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      We have Magnetite in our brains

      Absolutely brilliant!

      I tried this a good while back with a flat magnetic without success but it seems you could well have found the doorway with the cone magnet.

      Are you aware that there is 'magnetite' beside the pineal gland?

      I believe and contend that its purpose is to clean or straighten out the electrons (donor and acceptor) as they pass through the pineal gland when we sleep. The pineal gland and the heart are the only two places where all our blood flows through. As the blood works its way round the body it becomes tired and needs to be refreshed. This happens during our sleeping period and most importantly only at night. That's why Night workers have a higher risk of cancer because they interrupt their circadian rhythms - the blood is refreshed less often so the cells think they are dying and they do.

      Magnetite exists in all mammals and birds. For example, 'homing pigeons' have it in minuscule amounts in the beaks. It is this allied to the earth's magnetic field that directs them to their destinations.

      Please keep us informed of the progress you are making - I feel sure we can lift the veil and see that time doesn't exist and we can 'channel' hop.

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      It's Jan. 3rd, 2014. I'm going to lay off the flat magnet. I really don't see any real benefits so far. Maybe not using one for a month, I will see some difference, to compare using vs. not using.

      Thinking about buying a cylinder magnet or cone magnet, one that will be a few inches off my forehead. Seems like the flat magnets just do not work. Maybe, for that matter none of them do, but, won't know that unless we try.

      Would like to know if anyone else is doing this, or, if you know of a website with some info on it and can share it.

      I will have to say I remember my dreams more. Even had my best lucid dream ever the other day. It may have even been an astral projection, as it just was so real, like real life, except the setting was a different place and time. I could tell the way people reacted to me in the dream, I must be someone else, as my personality seemed a bit different in the dream. The dream was very detailed, could taste, smell, colors were vivid, etc., was very real.

      Was even able to direct within the dream. When I saw a tv program in the dream, I immediately thought of the subject I wanted to go to, and, the characters in it went along, just like real life. Was able to ask someone in it, for something, they provided it. I was able to use a remote control to change channels on the tv.
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      Tried that for OBE- astral travel - No influence of magnet
      Tried pentagram septagram, nonagram... no influence.
      Tried agate, amethyst, jadeite... no influence.
      Tried different body orientation... no influence.
      Tried OBE during different moon phases, different weather... no influence.
      Tried binaural sounds and visual-binaural beat stimulation- negative influence, never reached state for separation. Too distracting.

      But beware, everything may have great influence if you believe strongly that it has to have influence. Crutch of belief
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      Quote Originally Posted by Psionik View Post
      Tried that for OBE- astral travel - No influence of magnet
      Tried pentagram septagram, nonagram... no influence.
      Tried agate, amethyst, jadeite... no influence.
      Tried different body orientation... no influence.
      Tried OBE during different moon phases, different weather... no influence.
      Tried binaural sounds and visual-binaural beat stimulation- negative influence, never reached state for separation. Too distracting.

      But beware, everything may have great influence if you believe strongly that it has to have influence. Crutch of belief
      Thanks for the info. It helps when people post of their experiences with what they do test. I just reread what I posted yesterday. Something has seemed to help me remember dreams better. I do lean on it's probably not the magnet, though, I guess only way to tell is stay away from it, for a month, or a bit longer, and see if dreams still occur.

      Will try a cone or cylinder shaped magnet, though, as from the material I have been finding on this experiment, people use about a four inch long magnet, not flat.
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      A quick question if you please?

      What does opening the third eye mean to you? Do you have an expectation of what you would feel or sense?

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      It would help if you have two similar metals, one magnet and second nonmagnetic. Someone would change it so you will not know whether you have, or don't have magnet. That way you would know, whether magnet has any influence on you. It would be like testing of placebo effect.

      Magnetic field changes direction of flying electrons or moving magnetic field changes moving electrons in metals(because electron of conductivity band are moving freely in metal). But pineal gland has no free flying electrons or metallic structure in. Therefore static magnetic fields can't have effect on it.


      There is one thing- did you hear of magnetars? They are very fast rotating neutron stars. And strongest magnetic fields in universe. Strong pulses of magnetic field during star quake would be strong enough to strip electrons off of mater to hundreds of thousands kilometers.

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      Quote Originally Posted by rodan View Post
      It's Jan. 3rd, 2014. I'm going to lay off the flat magnet. I really don't see any real benefits so far. Maybe not using one for a month, I will see some difference, to compare using vs. not using.

      Thinking about buying a cylinder magnet or cone magnet, one that will be a few inches off my forehead. Seems like the flat magnets just do not work. Maybe, for that matter none of them do, but, won't know that unless we try.

      Would like to know if anyone else is doing this, or, if you know of a website with some info on it and can share it.

      I will have to say I remember my dreams more. Even had my best lucid dream ever the other day. It may have even been an astral projection, as it just was so real, like real life, except the setting was a different place and time. I could tell the way people reacted to me in the dream, I must be someone else, as my personality seemed a bit different in the dream. The dream was very detailed, could taste, smell, colors were vivid, etc., was very real.
      Was even able to direct within the dream. When I saw a tv program in the dream, I immediately thought of the subject I wanted to go to, and, the characters in it went along, just like real life. Was able to ask someone in it, for something, they provided it. I was able to use a remote control to change channels on the tv.
      it sounds to me like it HAS worked in some way from what you are describing

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      Quote Originally Posted by Psionik View Post
      There is one thing- did you hear of magnetars? They are very fast rotating neutron stars. And strongest magnetic fields in universe. Strong pulses of magnetic field during star quake would be strong enough to strip electrons off of mater to hundreds of thousands kilometers.
      That is so cool. I just wikipedia'd these things: the description of the gamma ray burst that hit earth in 1979 was right out of a sci-fi movie.

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      Quote Originally Posted by ardoci View Post
      Absolutely brilliant!

      I tried this a good while back with a flat magnetic without success but it seems you could well have found the doorway with the cone magnet.

      Are you aware that there is 'magnetite' beside the pineal gland?

      I believe and contend that its purpose is to clean or straighten out the electrons (donor and acceptor) as they pass through the pineal gland when we sleep. The pineal gland and the heart are the only two places where all our blood flows through. As the blood works its way round the body it becomes tired and needs to be refreshed. This happens during our sleeping period and most importantly only at night. That's why Night workers have a higher risk of cancer because they interrupt their circadian rhythms - the blood is refreshed less often so the cells think they are dying and they do.

      Magnetite exists in all mammals and birds. For example, 'homing pigeons' have it in minuscule amounts in the beaks. It is this allied to the earth's magnetic field that directs them to their destinations.

      Please keep us informed of the progress you are making - I feel sure we can lift the veil and see that time doesn't exist and we can 'channel' hop.
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      How Consciousness works - an hypothesis

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      Dangit...What happened to the OP? I couldn't wait to read the results and then they stopped updating...really interesting though

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      Yes, it would be nice if the OP could post what results they noticed.

      I've been off the " flat magnet " ( one of those strong magnets from the inside of a computer desktop harddrive )
      for about three weeks now.

      For the past three weeks:

      I have not had any lucid dreams. I do still have regular dreams, I remember when I wake up.

      Someone posted it seems may it had worked for me, in some way. As of today, maybe the flat magnet did something, affected my pineal gland or brain function in some way. Whether it's positive or not, I don't know.

      I'm really tempted to try a cone magnet, like the OP. Sure wish the OP would post the results they had, too.

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      I find it annoying when people announce they are going to do an experiment like this and don't follow through. Maybe it's better to post about our experiments like this when we're done with them.
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      I used neo magnets (north pole) . Straight on 3 rd eye position between our eye brows and temporal lobes. I also added one magnet on top of my head that straight down to pineal gland facing north to the scalp. Then one on throat, heart, belly button and just above my peckers. In others words, I used the same map for the Chakras.

      My goal of this personal study is : Manifestation of thoughts ( I do not care about melatonin and those junkies).

      I have : 10 neodymium magnets ( bi -polar).

      Today ( 23/01/2014) I wore one of the magnets ( around 3,000 guass; I believe almost 1/3 of 1 Tesla) Magnet penetrates up to 3 finger depths or 3-5 centimeters.
      Effect on the first day : Lucid dreaming and control over it + plus deep sleep after using the north pole
      How to find the pole : using a compass.South pole of the compass would be attracted to the north pole of the magnet or vice versa. Or use any other alternative methods (like water or etc...)
      How long: I wore it almost 8 hours today and I would do it at night ( 8 more hours???)
      Updates: If I come here, it means I have not achieved the desired result otherwise, I have it, yay! sorry, I am as self-centered as others No one helped me with anything. Research is a part of our life and we have to find the truth. It is a world of fakes and pseudo truths, if you are keen, you can find it out. Don't worry otherwise. No one would feed you. seek and YE shall find it.

      I know the story about a cat and a magician. He configured a magic circle with highly powerful magnets .. placed the cat in the middle = disappeared! And then, he did the same = ????

      Most people = are here to get some threads and do further study on it. Imagine if you got the key, would you care to share it?

      I would doubt it. If you had it, you would not be here! Good luck everyone!

      Theoretically it should work but we yet to figure out its practical ways.

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      Magnets vs Pineal gland

      I do not know why many members here always go ' off topic'. The thread is = magnet and pineal gland, I believe. Btw I do not think sound waves would help us in this. I know many bianural or isochronic beats failures.

      Quote Originally Posted by Jethro View Post
      I used neo magnets (north pole) . Straight on 3 rd eye position between our eye brows and temporal lobes. I also added one magnet on top of my head that straight down to pineal gland facing north to the scalp. Then one on throat, heart, belly button and just above my peckers. In others words, I used the same map for the Chakras.

      My goal of this personal study is : Manifestation of thoughts ( I do not care about melatonin and those junkies).

      I have : 10 neodymium magnets ( bi -polar).

      Today ( 23/01/2014) I wore one of the magnets ( around 3,000 guass; I believe almost 1/3 of 1 Tesla) Magnet penetrates up to 3 finger depths or 3-5 centimeters.
      Effect on the first day : Lucid dreaming and control over it + plus deep sleep after using the north pole
      How to find the pole : using a compass.South pole of the compass would be attracted to the north pole of the magnet or vice versa. Or use any other alternative methods (like water or etc...)
      How long: I wore it almost 8 hours today and I would do it at night ( 8 more hours???)
      Updates: If I come here, it means I have not achieved the desired result otherwise, I have it, yay! sorry, I am as self-centered as others No one helped me with anything. Research is a part of our life and we have to find the truth. It is a world of fakes and pseudo truths, if you are keen, you can find it out. Don't worry otherwise. No one would feed you. seek and YE shall find it.

      I know the story about a cat and a magician. He configured a magic circle with highly powerful magnets .. placed the cat in the middle = disappeared! And then, he did the same = ????

      Most people = are here to get some threads and do further study on it. Imagine if you got the key, would you care to share it?

      I would doubt it. If you had it, you would not be here! Good luck everyone!

      Theoretically it should work but we yet to figure out its practical ways.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Jethro View Post
      I used neo magnets (north pole) . Straight on 3 rd eye position between our eye brows and temporal lobes. I also added one magnet on top of my head that straight down to pineal gland facing north to the scalp. Then one on throat, heart, belly button and just above my peckers. In others words, I used the same map for the Chakras.

      My goal of this personal study is : Manifestation of thoughts ( I do not care about melatonin and those junkies).

      I have : 10 neodymium magnets ( bi -polar).

      Today ( 23/01/2014) I wore one of the magnets ( around 3,000 guass; I believe almost 1/3 of 1 Tesla) Magnet penetrates up to 3 finger depths or 3-5 centimeters.
      Effect on the first day : Lucid dreaming and control over it + plus deep sleep after using the north pole
      How to find the pole : using a compass.South pole of the compass would be attracted to the north pole of the magnet or vice versa. Or use any other alternative methods (like water or etc...)
      How long: I wore it almost 8 hours today and I would do it at night ( 8 more hours???)
      Updates: If I come here, it means I have not achieved the desired result otherwise, I have it, yay! sorry, I am as self-centered as others No one helped me with anything. Research is a part of our life and we have to find the truth. It is a world of fakes and pseudo truths, if you are keen, you can find it out. Don't worry otherwise. No one would feed you. seek and YE shall find it.

      I know the story about a cat and a magician. He configured a magic circle with highly powerful magnets .. placed the cat in the middle = disappeared! And then, he did the same = ????

      Most people = are here to get some threads and do further study on it. Imagine if you got the key, would you care to share it?

      I would doubt it. If you had it, you would not be here! Good luck everyone!

      Theoretically it should work but we yet to figure out its practical ways.
      You know... I wrote my findings about effect of various things on OBE(I admit that is not dreaming). No problem of sharing.
      I wouldn't share personal things. Well at least not things that are sensitive. Only requisite needed for LD is concentration and imagination. People have different level of inner peace in themselves. If mind is not concentrated then no imagination will help.

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      Well, I was referring to Rodan who started this thread and then the others. I have had tratak yoga and one or single thought meditation. I worked at somepoint but the magnet thing was more effective than any other modalities that I used so far. Just LD can not do anything alone or it doesn't offer anything that beneficial. Who wants to dream forever like that without reaping the benefits btw?

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      So, Jethro, how many times did you try the magnets?
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      How many times = From 10 am to 7 pm. I do not know how to count HOW MANY times from it.

      I am on a mission to attach at least 5000 gauss neodymium magnets on each ' chakra' or bio energy point or vortex / whatever.

      Koran or God or SHIVA helmet use the same principle for OBE and etc. I had a chat with Mr Tod Murphy and its effect (helmet). Persinger is not on its marketing side. Also many other neuro-scientists are into magnets and its effect on brain. You may youtube for sp,e anecdotal or research. In one of them, it shows how brain performs well with magnets (speed reading or so on).

      I am sure this would be beneficial. I don't want to pay $700 for the kroan helmet of persinger now and there is no scope of increasing our ESP abilities with it. I deduce that magnets are the key to ESP. I have lucid dreams after this. I had a nap yesterday and it was full of lucid dreams.

      I do not know how many times it have to use. I used some other types before ( crystals or etc). It didn't work. Magnet seems working. I will update after awhile if it is any good.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Jethro View Post
      How many times = From 10 am to 7 pm. I do not know how to count HOW MANY times from it.

      I am on a mission to attach at least 5000 gauss neodymium magnets on each ' chakra' or bio energy point or vortex / whatever.

      Koran or God or SHIVA helmet use the same principle for OBE and etc. I had a chat with Mr Tod Murphy and its effect (helmet). Persinger is not on its marketing side. Also many other neuro-scientists are into magnets and its effect on brain. You may youtube for sp,e anecdotal or research. In one of them, it shows how brain performs well with magnets (speed reading or so on).

      I am sure this would be beneficial. I don't want to pay $700 for the kroan helmet of persinger now and there is no scope of increasing our ESP abilities with it. I deduce that magnets are the key to ESP. I have lucid dreams after this. I had a nap yesterday and it was full of lucid dreams.

      I do not know how many times it have to use. I used some other types before ( crystals or etc). It didn't work. Magnet seems working. I will update after awhile if it is any good.
      How many nights have you worn them? Do you wear them in your sleep? What about awake? How many weeks have you been doing this for?
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      Magnet ( north pole)

      Quote Originally Posted by WakingNomad View Post
      How many nights have you worn them? Do you wear them in your sleep? What about awake? How many weeks have you been doing this for?


      Just 2 nights so far
      YEs, I do wear them I am thinking of making a head phone like so I can wear it while asleep
      I wear just one neodymium between my eyes (on the 3rd eye) during the day
      I started this 2 days ago.

      I am planning :

      Computer hard drive magnet ( 1.4 tesla that is 3 to4 times powerful than my current neo magnets)
      always keep the NORTH poles

      I think 1.2 Tesla would be great. But the problem is it is so large so can't take it outside. I yet to see the effect of magnets on my thoughts or its projection/manifestation. I am sure that is why we are doing this mainly.
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      What I tried, I got magnets on back of my head. Alternatively I placed them on my forehead. I also tried to create field between two magnets through my head, so I placed one magnet facing south(alternatively north) pole inside my head onto my forehead and other facing with north(alternatively south) pole to my head on back of my head(so magnets would attract themselves)... With no effect.
      But my neo's from harddrive were small, with dimension roughly 15x20mm and 2mm thick(not normal bipolar harddrive magnets- or how to name it... Normally the harddrive magnets have on each flat end north and south pole, I used magnets whose have on one flat surface only north and on other side only south pole) Try to use two bigger magnets in this configuration, maybe bigger magnets could not exert stronger field, but at least that field should be larger.

      I would be careful with big magnets, if they decide to clap on your ear it would be very painfull.

      I don't think there would be any effect... More interesting would be alternating strong field. One could create it also with help of neo's, it would require some electromotor to rotate magnet near your head. Again, I don't believe there would be observable effect. And we must think also about placebo effect.

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