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      It doesn't work that way Bro. You should keep it on its places. Lets see what happens. You dont need to move it around. Keep the north pole to the chakra or bio energy field /points. Do it at least 2 weeks....I got the result in 1-2 days... I would suggest you to wait 2 weeks max. Anyway, I am not a charlatan or or rip you off. Just try your best otherwise give up. I know it is better than any placebo effect that I had in the past. I tried all the modalities that we can buy. I got no result from it. Good luck!

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      Quote Originally Posted by Psionik View Post
      What I tried, I got magnets on back of my head. Alternatively I placed them on my forehead. I also tried to create field between two magnets through my head, so I placed one magnet facing south(alternatively north) pole inside my head onto my forehead and other facing with north(alternatively south) pole to my head on back of my head(so magnets would attract themselves)... With no effect.
      But my neo's from harddrive were small, with dimension roughly 15x20mm and 2mm thick(not normal bipolar harddrive magnets- or how to name it... Normally the harddrive magnets have on each flat end north and south pole, I used magnets whose have on one flat surface only north and on other side only south pole) Try to use two bigger magnets in this configuration, maybe bigger magnets could not exert stronger field, but at least that field should be larger.

      I would be careful with big magnets, if they decide to clap on your ear it would be very painfull.

      I don't think there would be any effect... More interesting would be alternating strong field. One could create it also with help of neo's, it would require some electromotor to rotate magnet near your head. Again, I don't believe there would be observable effect. And we must think also about placebo effect.






      If you try to create a field in between, there will not be a desired benefit because south vs north cancels all the poles. Try just NORTH from the front (face)

      OR try both north sides. One from the front and the other from the back. It doesn't cancel each other. However, I do not think it is a good idea. I would just try NORTH right between the eye brows or the temporal sides. Perhaps, I would also try vertically ( above my head -- onto the direction of pineal gland).


      Result: Mine is great as I am very sensitive to magnetic fields around me. I often feel my hands repel. I think people do not see any result if they don't have that sensation in between their hands. It means they have less magnetism. They would need to increase that magnetic field and repletion before starting pineal gland activation by magnets. Hand repletion may be due to the bio energy centers at heart and throat. I would suggest anyone to start the magnet therapy from the bottom (solar plexus) or umbilicus. If those energy reservoirs are week, then I do not think they would be able to enter ESP, lucid dreaming or so on. This is only my deduction but I am almost certain that magnetism has a strong relation between our super abilities.

      I found other modalities such as Chakra or yoga is based on magnetism. They called it 'Chakra' = wheel ?? as same as magnets. If they are circling, then it should be easier to control by an external magnet. Chakras, IMO, are the bioenergy vortex. Yes, it is the same points in the acupressure/acupuncture theory. Basically, we can just follow those points and empower the dormant energy.


      More happy to hear and share the details on a regular basis if someone is really into it.


      I think N45-50 are the best magnets, but they are quite expensive. N 45's flux density/ tesla is greater than the normal ones. I do not know how to get more powerful bio polar magnets.
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      Two north poles or two south poles cancel themselves when faced. They are repelling themselves.
      Field doesn't cancel in between of them, when magnets are attracting themselves. North-south pole combination.

      When placed into MRI, the body is placed inside large magnetic field stronger and many times larger than common NdFeB permanent magnet has.

      I'm not sure about chakra activation or manipulation by physical objects, or fields. In my opinion, they are more spiritual , higher dimensional energy centers, they are not detectable by physical sensors.

      I wish you luck with your research.
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      No the field will be neutral (almost), right? It has to change the bio energy level in our system. To do that, we need to just use the north pole of the magnet. If you want to activate any part of the body, find the bio energy level close to that area ( Let's say 3rd eye or pineal gland. So, choose the energy level that controls the pineal gland, which lies in between the eye brows or temporal lobes or so on. The bottom line is activate the gland, not just place the magnet anywhere. We use the closest circuit that has a direct influence on pineal gland. If you use north-south magnet,imagine you have a wheel, the wheel would not spin because of the north vs south attraction. However, wheel would spin if just one side (north) is used. The wheel should be a conductor as you know.


      MRI doesn't help because it needs tuning. MRI doesn't tune our magnetic or bio energy level. I do not think MRI activates our bioenergy system but it analyses the image. It penetrates the object using fields. The exposure time frame is minimal and not uniformed.

      Theoretically deducing something is easy but we need to test it to know if it works or not. When it comes to supernatural things or pineal gland functions, we need to rely on our own experiments. Books or mainstream sources would mislead you. This is why I want to research it my own way. I am sick of that educated idiocy and its bias.

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      @Jethro:

      Actually, "Sweatdreamer1 " started this thread, not me. However, I have been, and, will continue to follow this thread.

      I had been using the North pole side of a flat, " harddrive " magnet, on my forehead, for about two months, then quit.

      I have now been off magnet for a full month. Thinking about either using a three inch cylindrical type, cone magnet. Or, I might try to combine several harddrive magnets, ( say four ) in a series, and, attach to forehead.

      Looking back, I guess I have to say maybe using the one flat magnet, did have some results on me. For the past three weeks, I had no lucid dreams. I still occasionally wake up remembering just my regular dreams. Nothing lucid.

      Will be interesting to see if I have a lucid dream within the first week or two of using magnets again.

      @Jethro: Are you using those flat, round magnets on your forehead, for the lucid dreaming? If not, can you describe, briefly, what you use on forehead? thank you.

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      Fuckin' magnets, how do they work?

      I really don't understand physics, but magnets are related to electron currents?
      It is commonly accepted that we have a magnetic body on top of our physical? Hence, we have EEG scans and fMRIs.
      I think the pineal gland might be the place where electrons reach their highest point before flowing back down into the energy body.

      Given my viewpoint, I am personally very wary of messing with that by using magnets. But if it is magnetic fields we are manipulating. Listening to Frequency tunes (alpha,beta,delta) alters the magnetic field, right? Else, we woulden't have them show up on an EEG, AFAIK.
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      Firstly, magnetic field is physical field, because it is composed of electrons.
      Secondly, body has very weak magnetic field (10 000 000 times weaker than that of earths field), but it is not homogenous. Strongest source of it is hearth and brain - not pineal gland but grey matter of brain. Also muscles are source of weaker field than brain, mainly when they are moving. Magnetic field is generated in body because of bioelectric signals. Therefore glands are not their source.
      Pineal gland has nothing to do with memory ! It only regulates other glands in body. It isn`t scientificaly proved, but many different unscientific sources are associating this gland with third eye. I think that third eye is not and doesn`t have anything to do with gland, or any physical thing in body. I think we should be looking for something spiritual when we are speaking about third eye.

      EEG is electro encefalo gram. EEG machine detect weak electric currents. Somehow similar is EKG (ECG)which is short for electro cardio gram... detecting electric currents of hearth. Both methods have nothing to do with magnetic fields.
      MRI stands for magnetic resonance imaging. Magnetic resonance imaging - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Again magnetic field of body is not imagined. Only response of hydrogen atoms on resonance electromagnetic wave in strong magnetic field. It could be used for inorganic material research too.

      Listening to tunes doesn`t adjust magnetic fields. It changes slightly frequence of electric currents, but that is not reason, but effect of sensory input on brain.
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      yea, neodymium magnet/ flat type (south pole). South pole is for stimulating and north for calming down. I use it for manifestation purpose. I also do a chakra activation using those 3,500 gauss magnets. half an hour for chakras ( 6 chakras except the crown one-- which is hard to stick on the head) and then a 20 minutes extra on the 3rd eye (between the eye brows). While doing so, I visualise that I want clearly-- one at a time. I do not do it everyday the same thing but different visualisations. I get results even without magnets. Its only 1 week now so I am not sure if there is an amplified effect with magnets. I am sure that it helped me for lucid dreaming.

      I am thinking of combining this with 'orgone boosters' or similar. As every manifestation needs a lot of energy, I am going to do it with an orgone pyramid.

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      Have any of you tried using other minerals to stimulate the third eye? Maybe crystal, hematite or actually more magnetite?

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      I have. the last one was 'ormus'( pure gold extract). I also found good result with radionics software (EASYrad = $50 US). There is also a free version to try. It basically uses the required frequencies and it is one of the most of effective software for manifestation. There are many expensive software but this one could beat any available ones. I used melatonin and iron tablets as well, but there is no significant change. The principle is = we need more energy to manifest things. So just working on chakras are not enough. Therefore, a higher energy source like radionics is necessary. Radionic software can replace the devices. I get quick result with radionic software (Easyrad).

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      I tried a few things and I find it not working. It could help as placebo effect. All researcher should have in their mind this effect of belief in something. Everybody have to learn to walk without crutches, they are breaking us down.

      Good relaxation, concentration and meditation is all it is needed.

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      Have you tried radionics software like EASYrad? If not, you may be wrong. I understand that we need to be independent but we need understand that we always need a step up. If we don't have that much energy, then we need help. On our own, we can't help much.
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      I tried every single method avail online. This worked finally because I know how it works (logically). I wasted a lot of money for meditation and kundalini activation ( it was all poppycock).

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      If we have good relaxation. music and focus, I bet, we will not still achieve it all. I have been through it all

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      Yes. No effect. Well maybe there is effect- it made me agitated and concentration was impossible, I only wished to have silence. Oh silence... after I turned it off the SILENCE was godlike
      Binaural beats can be good... even better are binaural beats combined with visual input(via special glasses), But all this is bad, if one can't concentrate into inside... And sounds make my concentration to go on them, outside... not inside into my... core? soul??? I don't know how to name it. When I wan't to do OBE(to astral or other dimensions), or lucid dreaming(through WILD), my focus must go inside. I relax and concentrate to block input of senses as much as possible.
      Energy flows inside... and I can feel it clearer in deep relaxation. Waves of energy wash over me from feet to head and away. Near of possibility to go out of body I can often see it as if bright light washes over me. And it often hums... it's like if it is singing to me inside of me. Once in thoughtless meditation, the effects cease and I remain in peaceful black void.

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      May be you have full of energy in your chakras. Isochrnic or binaural doesn't work for me. Radionic software only fastens my targets, but not all. I wanted certain things and its happened but I wanted something which I know is difficult, so it didnt happen.

      achieved target : $1000+ in 3-4 days work ( self- employed)
      Non achieved target: fell out with my friends and wanted them back (did not happen). It ended up in accusation and fight though I did not do any mistake. Still I want them back as I miss them and I have no other good friends now.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Psionik View Post
      Yes. No effect. Well maybe there is effect- it made me agitated and concentration was impossible, I only wished to have silence. Oh silence... after I turned it off the SILENCE was godlike
      Binaural beats can be good... even better are binaural beats combined with visual input(via special glasses), But all this is bad, if one can't concentrate into inside... And sounds make my concentration to go on them, outside... not inside into my... core? soul??? I don't know how to name it. When I wan't to do OBE(to astral or other dimensions), or lucid dreaming(through WILD), my focus must go inside. I relax and concentrate to block input of senses as much as possible.
      Energy flows inside... and I can feel it clearer in deep relaxation. Waves of energy wash over me from feet to head and away. Near of possibility to go out of body I can often see it as if bright light washes over me. And it often hums... it's like if it is singing to me inside of me. Once in thoughtless meditation, the effects cease and I remain in peaceful black void.


      Binaural beats has nothing to do with radionics software. I am on about how to manifest the dreams or thoughts, not how to focus and do an astral travel. I do not want to travel in to a 'surreal world'. I heard many stories but most of them are not convincing. However, some popular remote viewers like Lynn Buchnan (ex USA military) use isochronic or binaural waves.


      The energy frequency would create the reality. Binaural or isochronic would not work for the first time as brain tends to get irritated. If you want to do so, you need to start up with alpha/beta wave for 2 weeks conditioning. Then switch into Alpha/Theta or so on. Someone who starts with THETA level to manifest or project (astral) would not get there as it is so disturbing. For many people THETA level is a disturbing phase while they are conscious so they are not going to focus and therefore no way to accomplish their goals.

      I do not know if you have tried radionics software ( not isochronic or binaural waves).

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      Quote Originally Posted by Jethro View Post
      Binaural beats has nothing to do with radionics software. I am on about how to manifest the dreams or thoughts, not how to focus and do an astral travel. I do not want to travel in to a 'surreal world'. I heard many stories but most of them are not convincing. However, some popular remote viewers like Lynn Buchnan (ex USA military) use isochronic or binaural waves.
      Of course they are not. Sound of that EasyRad is horrible. Binaural beats I can at least tolerate, and concentrate on them... but they don't help me to do LD or OBE. I tried it for a few weeks a few years ago. In that few weeks I hadn't achieved any LD or OBE... Concentration directed outside is simply not the way.
      I tried maybe 20 years ago binaural beats coupled with visual stimulation(small aparatus named MindPower)... I used it for about 2 years. For different purposes, it has I think 9 programs for different uses, different brainwave stimulation. I used it on top my normal routine relaxation and concentration exercises. Therefore it was quite simple to compare effects on my mind state... I hadn't managed to do any OBE with its help, nor to make deeper concentration or relaxation than I could do without it. On the contrary... But I tried it again and again, curious whether it doesn't need time. But results told me that it was not the case. I found as main problem stimulation on my senses.
      LD is an special sort of dream... I'm not convicted of usability of it much(but I try to research it)... Now OBE is something different.

      Quote Originally Posted by Jethro View Post
      The energy frequency would create the reality. Binaural or isochronic would not work for the first time as brain tends to get irritated. If you want to do so, you need to start up with alpha/beta wave for 2 weeks conditioning. Then switch into Alpha/Theta or so on. Someone who starts with THETA level to manifest or project (astral) would not get there as it is so disturbing. For many people THETA level is a disturbing phase while they are conscious so they are not going to focus and therefore no way to accomplish their goals.

      I do not know if you have tried radionics software ( not isochronic or binaural waves).
      I tried it when it was mentioned... I tried many things since I started to do experiments first for learning to do OBE, then exercises to do it more efficiently.
      I set volume on low because it made feel my ears pain. And even if it was at very low and tolerable sound level, it was very distracting. I was feeling strong emotions of denial. I felt very strong urges to make the sound stop. I couldn't tolerate it for more than approximately 15 minutes.

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      Maybe the magnets help the chakras receive more cosmic energy from the universe. Could be the proper frequency needs to be attained to get results.

      Using these magnets made me think of Steven Gibbs, the man who makes and sells the Hyper Dimensional Resonator, for time travel, or astral projection. Using a powerful electromagnetic field on your heart chakra, might produce a much more effect than magnets.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Jethro View Post
      I have. the last one was 'ormus'( pure gold extract). I also found good result with radionics software (EASYrad = $50 US). There is also a free version to try. It basically uses the required frequencies and it is one of the most of effective software for manifestation. There are many expensive software but this one could beat any available ones. I used melatonin and iron tablets as well, but there is no significant change. The principle is = we need more energy to manifest things. So just working on chakras are not enough. Therefore, a higher energy source like radionics is necessary. Radionic software can replace the devices. I get quick result with radionic software (Easyrad).
      How does that Easyrad ( or any radionics software ) work ? Can I just run it, in the background, without looking at the Easyrad screen? If so, how does that work on my chakras? Is it still producing high frequencies, visually, in the background, or, do I have to run the audio, too?

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      I rigged up a flat, strong, harddrive magnet to a headband, so the non attracting side ( south pole ? ), is facing forehead, about an inch away.
      A harddrive magnet has the " magnet " glued to a piece of metal. The side with the metal does not attract, the side with the magnet, does attract.
      Going to start using it today, March 25th, for 30 to 45 minutes per day.

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      Binaural beats possibly work by ways of electromagnetic beats rather than acoustical. Meaning you won't even need sound to achieve a higher/lower resonance inside the brain.

      Also, i opt for plants as a source of iron rather than supplements. Same deal with melatonin. Just sharing lifestyle matters. hehe.

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      Quote Originally Posted by rodan View Post
      I rigged up a flat, strong, harddrive magnet to a headband, so the non attracting side ( south pole ? ), is facing forehead, about an inch away.
      A harddrive magnet has the " magnet " glued to a piece of metal. The side with the metal does not attract, the side with the magnet, does attract.
      Going to start using it today, March 25th, for 30 to 45 minutes per day.
      Woke up about an hour after falling asleep. Was sleeping on my left side. As my eyes opened, just for a second, I saw a man, crouched down, next to my bed. He saw I awakened, then, disappeared. I didn't get a good look at him.
      He looked like a regular human male, with a long sleeved shirt on, and slacks or jeans, from what I saw. It startled him to see I woke up.
      It wasn't a dream. Something woke me up, and as I opened my eyes, I saw the ma, just for a second, then he disappeared.

      On another point, I figured out how to rig up two more magnets, one on left side of forehead, one on the right. So, now, I can have one in the middle, and, one on each side. The theory: using magnets to stimulate both left and right brain activity.
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      The OP refers to the experiment by Walter Rawls (explained in the OP).

      You will see that the magnet needs to be placed over the third eye, situated on the forehead between the eyes. Before dismissing the use of magnets to open the third eye, maybe try replicating the experiment Rawls used that got such interesting results? That means placing the magnet in the area between the eyes. Try it for 4 weeks and see what happens. Research Walter Rawls to find out the type of magnet he used and for how long he used it for each day (I think it was for 10 to 30 minutes) but not sure exactly what type of magnet.

      Quote Originally Posted by Psionik View Post
      What I tried, I got magnets on back of my head. Alternatively I placed them on my forehead. I also tried to create field between two magnets through my head, so I placed one magnet facing south(alternatively north) pole inside my head onto my forehead and other facing with north(alternatively south) pole to my head on back of my head(so magnets would attract themselves)... With no effect.
      But my neo's from harddrive were small, with dimension roughly 15x20mm and 2mm thick(not normal bipolar harddrive magnets- or how to name it... Normally the harddrive magnets have on each flat end north and south pole, I used magnets whose have on one flat surface only north and on other side only south pole) Try to use two bigger magnets in this configuration, maybe bigger magnets could not exert stronger field, but at least that field should be larger.

      I would be careful with big magnets, if they decide to clap on your ear it would be very painfull.

      I don't think there would be any effect... More interesting would be alternating strong field. One could create it also with help of neo's, it would require some electromotor to rotate magnet near your head. Again, I don't believe there would be observable effect. And we must think also about placebo effect.

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      Wow, the information in this thread is amazing! Thanks y'all! Especially Jethro. But all of this information is awe inspiring to me. Going to experiment with magnets asap.
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