Thread: Trouble with obe

To reach state in which I leave body I do autosuggestive relaxation known as autogenic training:
a) Relaxation of body- I concentrate on weight of my hand, I feel it on I make that feeling as strong as possible, and again stronger. I let that feeling of weight progress through whole body. When all my body feels heavy, I concentrate on deepening of that feeling... This relaxate skeletal striated muscle.
b) Concentration on warmth in my hand. It feels like aj have my hand in warm water, and water is warmer and warmer... liquid fire in my hand. Very pleasant and very hot. I let that liquid fire flow up my hand to other hand, and when my hands are warm, I let that warmth flow to my feets... At last I let spiral that warmth from my hands and legs into solar plexus. Now I don't do it because of third chakra, but because warmth leads to relaxation of smooth muscle tissue.

When I reach state of body where it is very heavy, so heavy that I have feeling I can't move and very warm, I start to concentrate on rolling movement of hand. Movement without moving physical muscles. I send impulses to muscles(to roll hand from side to side), but at the same time I let hand relaxed, unmoving. After some time I will start to feel second body hand(as if second, astral hand, and with that the feel of astral body permeating physical body start to be felt.)slowly rolling in physical body, and I try to make small rolling movements to be bigger. After a while I move the whole second body out of physical.

State of your mind is very important. You should be detached of feelings and thoughts. Concentrated on here and now. Observe your feelings and thoughts only... If you want to explore, your will must be in line of what you are doing... Don't let disturb yourself... with nothing. It will take great many travels to find the feel, to find conditions of existence, to find how to explore, how to do things without wanting them do (in sense of "wanting" in physical life)