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If anyone here knows how to convert a lucid to an out of body I would really like to hear about it. I remember reading that if you fall backwards while lucid that it would turn into an oob, however I tried it and it didn't work for me. Somewhere else I read about commanding yourself back to your body and somehow this can possibly kick you back into the oob sequence. Anyhow, if you have actual experience's of successful conversions, please post! :)
I have heard of two a lot. One of them is when your in a lucid just stop the lucid dream softly. Don't just jump and wake up try to do it as carefully as you can. Once you get out don't move and you should get vibrations and the whine that you hear. The other is apparently flying up in the sky just fly straight up. I don't know if this works I have flown straight up in a LD and nothing happened other than what I wanted to do.
There is another one that kind of works with the first one. Before you stop the LD you just say to yourself that when I leave the LD I will hear a whine and go Out of body. I have not tried any of these I should probably but i am happy with LD.
OBE vs LD...
OBE should start without imagination in my opinion... Once there is something imagined it is difficult to get rid of it.
I tried many times... I can change state of mind to that I use when I travel... It allows longer experience in LD but it in my opinion it remains LD. Surrounding remains very similar, number of beings decreases...
Largest change I experience(when LD doesn't end prematurely) is losing all sensory input to dream and getting into formless black space then. Body dissolves into nothingness.
From there I would start separation, but I'm missing feeling of physical body, feeling of second body... and I'm often missing the will to do something more than being in that state of "nothingness"
While I no longer try to convert my lucid dreams into OBEs, as my experience has shown that they are both equally effective means of exploring nonphysical reality, I would often covert them in my early years due to an assumed conviction that OBEs were a superior and more valid means of exploration. The method was extremely simple. I simply placed the intent of being back in my body and having an out of body experience. I would immediately find myself in a state of vibrations rising from my body. Simply place the intent, have complete confidence that the experience will manifest, possibly even try to feel yourself in the state of vibrations, and the higher mind should take care of the work.
I have heard when you are in LD, you should return to your body and then increase the vibration of your body. In this way, a second body is generated and then your awareness goes there. In this way, you are in OBE phase.
Good luck
According to my understanding, the "second body" or the subtle energy body double is not generated from an increase of vibration, but rather it is always existing at a higher rate of vibration than the physical body. It is simply one's consciousness that shifts from one body to another, it is one's awareness that experiences a variety of different vibratory bodies or vessels depending on the capabilities and attributes of one's consciousness. So in raising one's vibration in the way you have stated, it actually shifts one's consciousness higher through a spectrum of already existing vibratory vessels or energy bodies.Quote:
Originally Posted by yaya
When I concentrate on energy, its flow through my body, dream body or astral body, I can feel it. Only... I usually don't feel vibrations... Only seldom. Usually I feel it like waves and streams of something... warm, invigorating. Of course, what I feel may be what I want to feel.
As VinceField, I too believe that astral body is existent without my want for it to exist. Normally it permeates body, but when my mind(soul or what) is travelling out of body, it takes that something with it. Some people believe that it is soul what travels. Maybe it is me(soul) traveling. Who knows? For me it is not that important to know.
Try sensing your body asleep in your room, works for me.