Wow, cool. Mind telling us how you are advancing? |
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I was wondering if the mind can produce images or colors that the eyes cannot see. I have recently started practicing advanced vision control (AVC), which is when you manipulate your environment so much that you actually start seeing other things. AVC can be mastered over a period of time so that people can eventually manipulate the other senses and sort of create a lucid dream while awake. While practicing with my eyes closed in a dark room, I have noticed that I am seeing bizzare colors, mainly purplish/blue ones that seem to glow very brightly. They are so hard to describe because I have never seen colors quite like them. So are these colors impossible to actually see, or are they just exaggerations of colors I've seen in real life? If anyone is an expert on advanced vision control, any input would be greatly appreciated. |
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Wow, cool. Mind telling us how you are advancing? |
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So how do you excatly see those things? Is it as clear as physical image or more of mental visualization? I can look my hand and visualize seeing the bones and i see them but not in physical way. Its like visualizing and looking at the physical image at the same time. Its pretty cool how it all most seems as if i was seeing them but is this same what you do? Or do you actually saw the bones excatly as clear as physical image? |
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Last edited by Seltiez; 12-02-2014 at 07:49 AM.
It was only for a few seconds because it just was a bit too much. I was actually in the shower, and done dancing and very deep breathing exercise for hours on-end. In the shower I began throat chanting in a high-pitch tone. I was actually looking at the white reflection of the tiles in which I can very very dimly see my body. While chanting ,more like humming though, I saw very, one could say extremely clearly these uv-patterns and clear-white bones. How about you, do you actually see it in ur arm? Or rather, imagining that it is there? |
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What I'm doing now is closing my eyes and waiting for the flashing lights that come before sleep to appear (everyone has them, some people do not notice them.) When I see these, I try to change their color and shape. I am progressing in that I am able to change them a bit, whereas when I just began, I was only able to observe them. In some of these practice sessions, I am seeing this glowing purple color, right in my field of view against the stark blackness. It is a bit like the color you showed, Dthoughts, but it is a warmer purple, if that makes any sense. I have not progressed far enough to see bones or anything like that; it is certainly something to look forward to! |
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"Is there really such a thing as AVC that is so clear its like your experiencing it like a dream?" |
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Last edited by 4thDimension; 12-03-2014 at 06:26 PM.
Im not excatly sure if i understood correctly. Do you mean the moving dots and waves when you close you eyes? This static in your vision? Or the patterned colors that appear when you try to sleep? |
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Last edited by Seltiez; 12-03-2014 at 11:36 PM.
Yes, I mean the patterned colors when you try to sleep. With AVC, the goal is to try directly manipulating these areas of color into basic shapes, then simple pictures, and when you're ready, complex landscapes. I am still at the basic shapes stage so I don't know what it will be like to create pictures yet. I think what you described is the same sort of thing, though. |
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Ok thanks for giving me insight on this.i just never heard before of this. It sounds pretty cool ability. Im gonna try if i can manage to manipulate those patterns into some form of image. |
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Manipulation of these colors is not good way usualy its more complicate things than help at least for me. |
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I have never heard of trying it with emotions. It sounds very interesting indeed. I will look into it for sure. |
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In some my expedimnt i reperesent emotion as peak on graph and i noced some gaps in graph of psitive emotion so i try experince whole scale. |
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Last edited by ATA; 12-05-2014 at 08:34 PM.
That purple blob thing you talk about I do see from time to time while meditating. I did notice this because it was like the only color that VIVIDLY stuck out to me. It would move around in the darkness. When I would focus on it it would bounce to the side a bit. It would keep doing this over and over until it was almost out of sight. Then I would look straight forward in my meditation and it would be there again. I never thought much of this. Is this similar to what you were talking about? In real life I am color blind, but it is a blue or purplish color that I see in this blob like form. Never a different color. It's always the same intense color. Almost like a weak neon dark bluish purple. Here is an example, though I can't get the color correct. |
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ATA, the graphs are very interesting. To answer your question, Enigmatik, yes, that's definitely the color. It is always in a moving blob, too. Your rendition of it is very similar to what I see, though the real color is a tiny bit more warm purple. It's probably impossible to put the real color down on paper or onto the computer; you got as close as possible to the real thing. When you see it, are there a few variations of the color in the same blob? When I look at it, I notice that it is a little lighter in spots, mainly around the edges. This gives the blobs a striking contrast against the blackness. |
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This blobs are usualy caused by aftereffects |
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I would have put a light boarder around the blob but I couldn't figure that part out. The color was more lit, like kind of neon with the light boarder. Heh. But I'm almost positive that we are talking about the same thing. What it is, I don't know. I did however wonder why it was that color. It has happened numerous times and it is always that same color too. Weird! |
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ATA, I am responding to you as well. The emotion idea is interesting, mostly because my dreams are so abstract and random (they aren't even consistent in how abstract and random they are) that I have felt feelings I don't know if I can ever feel again or begin to remember what they feel like, and seen geometric shapes I could never try to describe even if they were before me this very second. I would say that these things that you wonder are possible, OP, but how likely it is to occur may be totally random, but may also be able to induced. I can't really say. |
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Dreams are not completely random but try to make sense of it is not much time effective there are to much "noise" . I gave some idea how get better information form them but still is not tested. |
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If you're responding to how random I said my dreams are, I just mean the scenarios, feelings, emotions, plots, characters (or lack thereof), environments, and even other things are seriously all over the place for me. Many people I know have dreams that at least hold some semblance to regular life except that some odd things happen during them, and the stranger dreams they have are usually more vivid. |
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Last edited by snoop; 12-14-2014 at 11:47 AM.
This chaos in dreams is very depenent on expectations about dream reality . Many people have strong limitation by normal reality rules. You have this rules weaker . This can be usefull dream can use more symbolical forms and informtion are more precize .Still take lots of effort to uderstand them. If you want normal dream try pick some rules for dream reality by intetion after some time your dream start use this rules. Its like tanstation system if enyone read book about dream symbols brain can start use this symbols as langue to give mesage. Disatventage of you currnets state is bad memory besoue is hard to put these things to word and they are very diffrent form normal reality. |
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