Using the brain to it's full potential

So it's a pretty well-established consensus that the brain is the house for our senses. We have all the sensual organs near our brain and a nervous system that extends throughout the body.

What then can we do with the senses? Is there more than meets the eye? Pun unintended.

I think so, yes. In dreams we are utilizing mostly vision to bring about massive changes. But utilizing our body image we can shapeshift into an animal. And we become it literally. For example, I've shapeshifted into a werewolf of sorts without the moon issue and walking on paws. Running in this mode is fantastic.

Ordinarily. Our nervous system is so used to having thumbs. But somehow we are able to use our sense of feeling to have paws and transform our body image to that of an animal.

This tells me that our senses are not set-in-stone. We can manipulate them and this is what this thread is about. Sharing experiences of manipulating the senses to make them something into a state that they are not ordinarily in.

Don't forget we have 5 senses: Feeling, Hearing, Smelling, Tasting! and vision.

We are dominant in our vision. But a blind person for example utilizes the Feeling sense to read! This is completely non-ordinary for most of us. This is actually really impressive. If you have a trick like this I would enjoy hearing about it in this thread :)

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Originally Posted by Dthoughts

But a blind person for example utilizes the Feeling sense to read!

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Let's make this impressive ability one level more deeply impressive: Those who read use vision to "hear" language, a little bit like sign language when you think about it. :)


Probably not the type of trick you are looking for, but something very interesting, are phosphenes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phosphene), which from my understanding is the ability to see light when our eyes are closed by applying pressure to our eyes by rubbing them. I had seen an exercise somewhere, I forgot where, where you turned your eyes in one direction, and touched your closed eyelid somewhere, and then, you could see a speck of light. It's interesting, because it's seeing from physical pressure stimuli instead of light stimuli.

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Originally Posted by Occipitalred

Let's make this impressive ability one level more deeply impressive: Those who read use vision to "hear" language, a little bit like sign language when you think about it. :)

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Wow, that is impressive!

I never thought about that.'This is deep. In actuality, Children do not utilize their senses to read. And they never will. But somehow through learned association with by associating Visuals with Audio cues they learn how to read.

Actually, these audio cues aren't even a natural use of the senses. The audio means nothing untill we learn to associate them with meaning.

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Originally Posted by Occipitalred

Probably not the type of trick you are looking for, but something very interesting, are phosphenes (Phosphene - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia), which from my understanding is the ability to see light when our eyes are closed by applying pressure to our eyes by rubbing them. I had seen an exercise somewhere, I forgot where, where you turned your eyes in one direction, and touched your closed eyelid somewhere, and then, you could see a speck of light. It's interesting, because it's seeing from physical pressure stimuli instead of light stimuli.

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No, not exactly because we aren't able to really do much with it but it is interesting an interesting cornerstone to philosophize on. I think this leads me to believe somehow that light and the experience of light is generated entirely in the brain. And needs no outside stimuli at all.

I am not sure what you are after in your post... It all happens unexpectedly, but I have become several things. I can only recall a few off the top of my head. I was a coin that got inserted into a machine once and I rolled down a long path. I've been a ball bouncing around space. Yes, I have purposefully shape shifted. I have experienced extreme pain and once I associated wetness as the color purple. Probably the strangest of these, I was my wife having sex with me. It seems my physical sensations are the most dominate in my lucid dreams.

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Wow, that is impressive!

I never thought about that.'This is deep. In actuality, Children do not utilize their senses to read. And they never will. But somehow through learned association with by associating Visuals with Audio cues they learn how to read.

Actually, these audio cues aren't even a natural use of the senses. The audio means nothing untill we learn to associate them with meaning.

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No senses mean anything without associated meaning. The brain is a pattern recognition machine--it takes sensory stimuli and records it. When the sensory stimuli happens again, it causes a reaction. Eventually the brain can anticipate what is going to happen in a situation because when previous stimuli lead to a certain amount of stimulation, it would make sense that the preceding stimuli will cause that same stimulation again. Sometimes this is the case, and sometimes it isn't. The brain records the results and learns to differentiate between many many stimulus cues and as a result is able to detect salience in the stimulation. Eventually with enough memory built up, the brain can associate all the connections it makes with the stimuli the sensory organs are receiving. The association parts of the brain are separate from the parts that receive information from the body. Therefore, either "noise" due to electrical bleeding from local neurons will set off false sensory perceptions (hallucinations), or without sensory input the brain will continue to "sense" and associate and eventually start to create hallucinations again. The latter is how dreaming works.

Neurons in the brain are connected in the form of latticework. Hence the remarkable ability to put together so many new connections. At the same time, this allows for crosswiring of the senses. Many senses are inexorably linked to each other. Many are not directly linked but can be indirectly linked based on your knowledge of which senses are directly linked and your ability to creatively cause stimulation of multiple sections of the brain. However, the concept that only 5 senses exist is faulty. What I mean is, there are many other valid senses than just the basic five. In addition to those we have a sense of balance, time, and inner spatial awareness for example. These are all valid senses just like those of sight and hearing, and it's a bit silly to ignore them.

I'll give an example about what I mean when I say creatively cause stimulation of multiple sections of the brain. Music (hearing) has been proven to be linked to both emotion, physical motion (and physical motion also to emotions), and time/timing. Sight is linked to sense of motion. Smell is linked to taste. A connection for sight, motion, and hearing is already easy to establish--they easily cross over. Touch can also be linked to motion because when you move, you feel things. If you find a way to utilize these connections to enhance your awareness, you may be able to manipulate those senses more easily. Or perhaps maybe it is the opposite, and if you mindfully try and keep from activating those senses you will be able to more easily manipulate them. I don't know, I haven't had a lot of practice in this. This is all just some interesting speculation made based on the OP.

I like the way your brains works. Thank you for stimulating my own soup :)
Internal connections. That is a good one. hmmm

Illustrating a sense of direction with a visual modus. A compass is a perfect example. But memory is fine if urs is sharp enough.

A sense of direction can also be used by
1. concentrating the feelings in ur finger .. not a seks joke
2. knowing that your finger is round (this may seem oblique but in fact when looking at ur finger it is not immediately obvious that it is round)
3. knowing that wind is pushing force in different directions.

The wind in this case is an external force. In a dream... The external and internal is intertwined. Thus, we may be able to sense "wind" without the senses. Or rather. Create a new sense called wind. And we should be able to manipulate it at will.

Coming back to our 5 conventional senses. Shoulden't we be able to draw this back and manipulate our senses.

Also relating back to our brain. Our sense of smell seems like it is only capable of discerning a particular set of smells. Obviously we have evolved it in a long time. Maybe taste is an easier example. We can discern only a few tastes. Our tongue actually isn't devised to taste wind. or sound. or vision. It can not absorb photons.

It seems like you are right. Balance, time, spatial awareness are all valid use of senses. I think we may be able to use them. Linking balance with emotions for example. Controlling our excitement and balancing it. In a dream we can build a schema like an actual balance and use it to maintain a sense of balance when for example preventing orgasm. When balance tips, we wake up. Someone should drop this method in that thread about orgasm.

For the same purpose we can use audio much more precisely. Just.. imagine the tipping point of balance is predetermined by creating a high pitch. and envision.. enhear a low pitch as being balanced. during orgasm once again a higher pitch is a perfect cue to calm down.

^You see, I think there is relative use for learning our senses. So the point of this thread is to collect how people use senses in dreams and what is possible. Who knows, maybe we can create a new sense.

Ones sense of time can definitively be altered in the dream. Although in my own experience I have not been able to control it, I just end up being some place for a time.

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Originally Posted by Serinanth

Ones sense of time can definitively be altered in the dream. Although in my own experience I have not been able to control it, I just end up being some place for a time.

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This makes me think of how illusions are used in films and video games, and maybe how one could utilize this to their advantage in a dream. For example, in 2001: A Space Odyssey they made it seem as though the ships were rotating during interior shots by simply rotating the camera instead. The same can be done with video games. You can move the entire world forward, backward, up, down, left, or right rather than the character and you would never know the difference because unlike in reality, there are no other indicators of one's velocity relative to the environment like air resistance, gravitational pull, etc.

Knowledge and creative problem solving are the biggest tools a lucid dreamer has at his or her disposal when dreaming to control and manipulate the dream because you don't rely on your unconscious brain to figure out a way to make what you want to happen work, you exercise reasoning skills and the logic centers of the brain (thus stimulating the frontal lobes and prefrontal cortex), allowing you to remain conscious, aware, and focused. It also makes what happens in the dream much more believable because there is a reason behind something happening. Say for instance you want time to slow down, but you can't simply shout "slow down time" and get it to work, or imagining a pill being in your pocket that, when ingested, slows down time for you, or walking through a door that is somehow a magical portal that slows down time for you all don't work, perhaps a different approach will. Instead, you use powers you already have or are able to actually make work or have a lot of practice with, like perhaps super speed, and instead imagine you are moving so quickly that your relative time stays the same, but due to your velocity, everything around you seems to be moving much slower. A way this could work when even standing still is perhaps say, carrying a resonance tuning fork with you that has a dial on it, that when you move the dial up or down, changes you vibrational frequency to one much higher or lower, so that in a way you are still moving faster than everything around you. Or maybe find a suit that causes you to, at an amazing rate, teleport to various locations in space for different amounts of time. It could maybe teleport you to a large chamber for let's say 2 plank times and have you teleport back to your old location for a fraction of a second (considerably longer, just long enough for you to be able to only consciously register being in the location you are moving through but never perceiving the chamber you teleport to), thus making you move at incredible speed, a much higher one than everything around you, again causing your rate of time to be experienced differently relative to everything else.

Anyway, a good idea to help yourself along with these kinds of things is to brainstorm what you can do before dreaming and then visualizing how it would be to use whatever it is you come up with while dreaming, that way it becomes somewhat second nature and you already have a solid concept in place that your mind can use when in the dream, most likely making its chances of working far better than they would be if you came up with something on the spot. If you have specific RCs that are locations or objects that could store items, you could easily make use of material objects that help control the dream for you that are of your own design and you know perfectly well how to use or to summon. I'll work on writing up another post with maybe a whole list of ideas for exercising control in your dreams to do various things, I like coming up with ideas anyway and I will probably start using these ideas myself. Nice thread Dthoughts, you've got me thinking a lot!

Sweet! I'm glad to be of service. I shall come up with ideas maybe sometime if I get a chance to test them in LDs.

I have one idea that works i'm just not sure if it's usable to anybody else. I imagine a particle the size of an atom or smaller still. It is connected to one that is from me and one that I use to attach to my environment like a hook. Then I pull myself towards the particle that I have attached somewhere in the sky and I am catapulted at great speeds.

I got the idea from the mushroom who said I have 2 of these in my brain and it is a real particle somewhere in Higgs space.. It works and everyone has one that we can use to contact other dreamers. works in dreams and in waking imagination. :)

I can sense virtually every inch of my body. Not all at one time, but say counting the vertebra in my back. I shift my focus and can feel the tactile input from any small part of my skin. I am sure with some practice any one could do this.

Yes!!! such is special. not everyone can do it. Thanks for participating, deer Sivason. :)

I can not feel the right side of my body very well. And my neck is the worst.

I have a special feat but I can only use it in the presence of tryptamines in my brain. I can sense what the material is made of just beneath my feet. I do not know how but I can taste/smell and sort of feel and maybe even see when I am standing on an average piece of clothing fabric. When I standed on the floor í stop sensing this. I am trying to figure out if there's a difference when I get a yoga mat made of hennep.

This is also very similar with chemical shower gels. I can taste some of the aromatic particles in my throat when I treat my body with these chemicals.










Sword swallowing. Takes some considerate amount of skill of also controlling internal organs: How Sword Swallowing Works - HowStuffWorks <= for entertainment value

"Visions in the imagination" I've been meaning to talk about this with you all for a while.

I can see with my eyes closed imagery from time to time. At first it was plants. When I get a new plant in the house I will see it for 2 weeks when I close my eyes.

Sometimes it is very complex. But one consistent image I see is infectious threats..

I can see with my mind's eye a bacterium, in detail. The size and demeanour of the bacterium that I see in my mind's eye paralells the threat it has to my body.

For example. A big bug that is dark and ugly could potentially kill me.

Little bugs are of no threat and they will not hurt me. In fact, it feels rather okay to be with them...

At one time it was a big green one, well a bunch of them but notice **thee feeling associated with the image** .. this is important..
Does not give that much of an alarm. So while I stay put.. the image simply goes away.. And I can feel my body working overtime.
When I left that night I had a bit of a sneeze and drippy nose and I just knew that it was from the bacteria..

In the same space I left an energy signature somewhere sometime.. and I dropped it and never have any memory of what it was..

might as well note that I was aware of an "energy" you see I was staying over at a friend's house who wasn't there and I lie on bed alone in this room.
and I see suddenly a gate which have gaurded memories or her past. That I wasn't allowed to enter , although I think I could have.. Upon this point I exited the vision
and an energy pattern of my own began to emerge a sort of condensed experience of my own spirit/being/soul whatever you wish to call it. and I dropped it. It got sucked into somewhere because the very second after the image was gone I have had and still have no recollcetion of what went on in there. Just a vague apprehension that I am sure of that I went over some personal things.

.......How does this relate? Well.. we sense these things somehow :P

Another time I saw violent bubbleers growing on my feet and 5 seconds later began to itch in that area. this time in my own bed. yesterday i saw tiny tiny bugs while putting my head on my chouch which i rarely clean and it actually didn't bother me it felt sort of nice that I didn't have to fear any bacteria. tells me my immune system is getting stronger.

.. During conversations one of the most remarkable thigns was seeing machinery and alchemic images when discussing feelings with a friend.

also during conversations i sensed but never actualyl saw energy-bubbles floating in a particular point in space each time a new subject was brought up it would produce another bubble in another place. and they would sometimes push each other or come close to it. probably outlining which bubble has the forefront of the conversation.

it's really weird, i would be having more experimentation with these bubbles where it not for my anti-social nature at this point, i avoid pretty much all conversation and stick to the necessary -,-

Here is few my old notes about similar tema
http://www.dreamviews.com/research/1...echanisms.html
https://brmlab.cz/project/brain_hacking/msi2
https://brmlab.cz/project/brain_hacking/gmi

Manipulation of senses can be intreresting but also very dangerous (in normal reality) can intrfere with normal preception nad cause various porblems.Now i use moustly motoric interface like movements of hand
to draw number in air or give me some scale , i can also use something like visualization touchsceen to set various values but is more conceptual (feel position in space) than visual.My hnad also can move to show some place of problem in the body or i can cause automatic contraction of some muscles and set frequency and amlitude of it.I do aslo some basic expediment with speech and full body control i wait for imporvements in "securyty" before furteher expediments.Motoric intreface is easi controlabele and do not interfere. Visual intrefce still cause some problems but i can "see" wery week color and use it for instance see musle tonus in my body in color-scale.

Somatosensory perception is interesting, it's like combining all senses into one and achieving greater awareness of your surroundings similar to battlefield awareness. When this sense is strong you can basically pinpoint the exact location any sound originates from for example a bird in a tree, you would know exactly where that bird is in the tree. I believe this sense is connected with tantra when you incorporate the understanding that everything is connected and there is no separation between you and I. A tantric expert could excite someones sexual organs from a distance and create stimulation on their body by using this sense. It's like a feeling sense that is directed using perceptual awareness. If you can understand that your mind and senses extend beyond your physical body, you can basically project your senses out further than normal.